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Title: Marc Maron
Post by: citizenlewis on January 22, 2009, 11:37:42 AM
Tom-
Will you ever have Marc Maron on as a guest?
Maybe you could just hint that some one made an off the cuff comment about him and watch him go.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Joe Rogaine on January 24, 2009, 03:01:31 AM
May not be Tom's cup of tea he was a guest on Opie and Anthony you know.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: put_it_away on March 18, 2010, 01:45:38 PM
I was just thinking about Marc Maron as a guest, too. I've been listening to Marc's WTF podcast, which has been a real mix of comedy, philosophy, politics. He also has some familiar Best Show guests: Galifinakas, Patton, etc. There is a danger of Marc veering off of Hard G, but he had a terrestrial show, so he knows the deal.

I think he would be an insanely good guest, but that's just me.

Pastor Josh recommended Marc's podcast to me, and I have to say it is pretty terrific. I've been listening to it and Best Show nonstop for days.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: TacoSmith on March 18, 2010, 01:57:57 PM
Marc Maron's podcast is becoming one of my absolute favorites. He has the ability to make any guest he has on an interesting interview. Plus, he's just a naturally hilarious guy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on March 18, 2010, 02:01:07 PM
I really like Maron's podcast too. I'd like to hear Tom as a guest on there, actually.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on March 18, 2010, 04:20:32 PM
I'm a huge fan of Marc Maron's podcast and think it would be great to hear him on Best Show or Tom and Jon on his show.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: moonshake on March 18, 2010, 05:25:35 PM
I'm also a fan of him and his podcast. He's a great interviewer and he'd be a very engaging guest on the show. If APMike and Marc were to have a conversation, it could only be hilarious and gut-wrenching.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on March 19, 2010, 12:36:40 PM
I think he'd fit in.  He does fake guests well.  Half the time I don't even realize the fake guest is a fake guest until halfway through. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on March 19, 2010, 03:38:20 PM
I'm also a fan of him and his podcast. He's a great interviewer and he'd be a very engaging guest on the show. If APMike and Marc were to have a conversation, it could only be hilarious and gut-wrenching.

As a Mike Show guest, he would be perfect.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Barry Egan on March 19, 2010, 04:18:12 PM
I love you guys but you're all nuts.

I've listened to about 10 episodes of WTF and concluded that Maron is horrible at what he does.  For a show that purports to address philosophical questions and such, he is remarkably closed-minded and condescending. The personal anecdotes seldom leave the range of creepy/sad/petty, and the annoyingness of the "Why am I not more famous?" theme is only trumped by the "Because I'm too truthful, maaan!" refrain.   Puke.

He reminds me so much of this guy:
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:-H2yPX6MebJMfM:http://www.cinescene.com/reviews/malk2.jpg)

Nevermind that Maron's not especially funny, and not nearly as wise as he wants us all to believe, he seems like a complete asshole!  And a misogynist, kinda!

I'd never speak for The Kid, of course, but if I had to bet, I'd put my money on Tom never booking Marc Maron, famous mutual friends aside.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: TacoSmith on March 19, 2010, 04:35:42 PM
Most of what you're saying is just a matter of taste so I can't really argue it, but what exactly makes you call him a misogynist? That's a pretty strong word to be throwing around.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on March 19, 2010, 05:16:50 PM
Yeah, I don't really get the misogynistic thing at all from either the podcast or his standup CDs.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on March 19, 2010, 05:53:51 PM
Yeah, I don't really get the misogynistic thing at all from either the podcast or his standup CDs.

I know people who like him a good deal more than I do.

I think he is alright.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Barry Egan on March 19, 2010, 06:29:21 PM
http://comedians.jokes.com/marc-maron/videos/marc-maron---sexually-acting-out

I said kinda misogynist, as 90% of the time he talks about women he makes them sound like traumatized manipulative monsters who are only good for sex.  Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the vibe I get from him over and over again.  He brags about sleeping with his "stalkers" and flirts with just about all of his female guests.  I think he even creeped out Margaret Cho, and that's no small feat.

Even worse is that every woman or minority he has on the show automatically becomes the "what it's like to be a woman and/or minority" show.  Fine, maybe he doesn't outright hate, but he certainly does compartmentalize people, relishing in their "otherness" to make him seem all tolerant and evolved.  I call bullshit.

Also, his favorite line, "I'm not racist, but I'm nervous" is uh... that's what racist people say, right?

I can't believe I'm alone on this one, but if I am, fine.  As Tom says, "That's why God made horse races".
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: moonshake on March 19, 2010, 07:57:22 PM
I guess when one is as honest and inquisitive as he is, some of what he says could be perceived that way. I don't think he's a saint or a role model, but I also never got the impression that his animosity towards certain people was because of their race or gender. When he asks Kumail Nanjiani about Pakistan and about being married to someone from Georgia, is that racist? I don't think so.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: trickrodd on March 19, 2010, 08:03:53 PM
First off, let me say that I'm a Marc Maron fan. I've been to all of the live WTF tapings, and I'm going to another one in a few hours. I even saw him perform last night in a show at the UCB hosted by Jimmy Pardo. That being said, I don't think he would be a very good fit for The Best Show. He seems a bit too loose for the tight ship Tom runs. Also, his personality is a bit prickly. If we're talking podcasters, I'd much rather hear Scott Aukerman as a guest, or even Jimmy Dore. I think they might show the proper deference. Marc does a good podcast, but I don't really think his and Tom's on-air personalities would mesh well.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Barry Egan on March 19, 2010, 09:23:47 PM
When he asks Kumail Nanjiani about Pakistan and about being married to someone from Georgia, is that racist? I don't think so.
I don't either,  but I stand by my assertion that "I'm not racist, but I'm nervous" is disturbing, and he's been using that line for years.  

I don't think he's a horrible person like Jeff Dunham or anything, I just get a creepy vibe from him often, and a full-of-shit vibe from him constantly.  Ordinarily I wouldn't care, but he has on guests I want to hear from, so I listen to his show.  

Agreed Scott Aukerman would be great.  He's more of a people person.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on March 19, 2010, 09:40:30 PM


I've listened to the podcast on and off, depending on the guest. I think Maron can be funny sometimes, but I find him narcissistic to the point of pathology. It's pretty exhausting at times.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on March 19, 2010, 11:10:24 PM
When he asks Kumail Nanjiani about Pakistan and about being married to someone from Georgia, is that racist? I don't think so.
I don't either,  but I stand by my assertion that "I'm not racist, but I'm nervous" is disturbing, and he's been using that line for years.  

I don't think he's a horrible person like Jeff Dunham or anything, I just get a creepy vibe from him often, and a full-of-shit vibe from him constantly.  Ordinarily I wouldn't care, but he has on guests I want to hear from, so I listen to his show.  

Agreed Scott Aukerman would be great.  He's more of a people person.

It's all a matter of taste and he's not most people's cup of tea which answers the question of why he's not more famous. I think that most of the things about him that you have a problem with he is aware of and addresses. There are times when I listen to the podcast and get a bit uncomfortable with where he's going but then he'll acknowledge that and right the ship. That said, after thinking it over I agree that he wouldn't be the greatest guest on TBSOWFMU but I think Tom on WTF would be just fine. I think the entertainment value of Tom and Marc would come from their differences. With the exception of musicians, Marc has had on every comedian that Tom has in the past few years (as my memory serves). I like them both so naturally I'd like to see it happen and who knows maybe that's the context that you need to hear Maron in to dig him or maybe it will turn WTF fans off to him but my guess is it would be entertaining in a good way.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on March 19, 2010, 11:24:55 PM
Marc does the best interviews in broadcasting.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on March 19, 2010, 11:27:06 PM
Marc does the best interviews in broadcasting.

I searched for a "like" button for about 45 seconds before I realized this wasn't facebook. I don't know about the best in the biz but I like 'em. Glad you're on board Hugman unless you were joking then I feel dumb again.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: trickrodd on March 20, 2010, 01:53:16 AM
Marc does do great interviews. Also, I like the idea of Tom as a guest on WTF. I could see that working a lot better than the other way around. After seeing the live show tonight, I fear Marc may have added some fuel to the fire for people that think some of his comments are, at the least racially insensitive, and at the most xenophobic. Once the episode is released, you may understand what I mean. Specifically, it's when he's talking about buying boots that I'm referring to. I do find him very entertaining regardless.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on March 20, 2010, 12:00:17 PM
Marc does the best interviews in broadcasting.

I searched for a "like" button for about 45 seconds before I realized this wasn't facebook. I don't know about the best in the biz but I like 'em. Glad you're on board Hugman unless you were joking then I feel dumb again.

I was being serious, albeit with a touch of hyperbole.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bernard on March 20, 2010, 08:19:33 PM
i've listened to 3 WTFs so far after i saw it was recommended here.  I started with the dave attell episode, which i thought was a great interview (sidenote: i also think attell is great whenever he's on howard stern, too, so i could be kinda biased).  then i tried out the brendon small episode, which was boarderline unlistenable.  i was hoping to hear more about "home movies" and that show i can't spell properly, but most of the conversation (i bailed; didn't listen to the whole thing) was marc interrupting brendon every time he was about to answer marc's question, and then marc talking about how he plays guitar, but isn't very good.  it was really frustrating to listen to.  i listened to about half of the h. jon benjamin episode today and i enjoyed what i heard.

i'll try it again for some other guests i find interesting, but overall i wasn't blown away or anything.  and, i dunno, i can't really see marc fitting in on TBS.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 20, 2010, 09:39:16 PM
I am a fan of Marc/WTF, but I'd have to agree with the Tom on WTF would work better than Marc on TBSOWFMU contingent. I am actually having a hard time imagining Maron being interviewed himself, though I agree he is quite good at interviewing.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on March 20, 2010, 09:43:18 PM
I am a fan of Marc/WTF, but I'd have to agree with the Tom on WTF would work better than Marc on TBSOWFMU contingent. I am actually having a hard time imagining Maron being interviewed himself, though I agree he is quite good at interviewing.

Marc has recently been interviewed on Am I Right??, Adam Carolla, Comedy and Everything Else, Jordan Jesse GO!, and Fitzdog Radio.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on March 23, 2010, 06:42:09 AM
I don't have a problem with the boot story or with his "I'm not racist, I'm nervous line," and here's why: It is my belief that every one of us, racist or not, has prejudices about groups of people unlike our self. What I think Maron is doing with material like this is acknowledging his own prejudices in a direct, sometimes uncomfortable, way - which is to say, the way he handles every subject he discusses. Uncomfortable honesty is one of his calling cards.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on March 23, 2010, 11:41:22 AM
Recent episode with Rob Delaney is mindblowing.  For a little perspective on race, listen to the Kamau Bell and Dwayne Kennedy episode, and for chrissakes can we just relax on accusing other people of being racist for five minutes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on March 23, 2010, 12:29:29 PM
Recent episode with Rob Delaney is mindblowing.  For a little perspective on race, listen to the Kamau Bell and Dwayne Kennedy episode, and for chrissakes can we just relax on accusing other people of being racist for five minutes.
Are you protecting the racists?
Racist!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: moonshake on March 23, 2010, 02:34:24 PM
Yeah. Enough with these heavy accusations. He might be a racist and a misogynist, but at least he's not a HORRIBLE PERSON!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 23, 2010, 07:11:36 PM
I am a fan of Marc/WTF, but I'd have to agree with the Tom on WTF would work better than Marc on TBSOWFMU contingent. I am actually having a hard time imagining Maron being interviewed himself, though I agree he is quite good at interviewing.

Marc has recently been interviewed on Am I Right??, Adam Carolla, Comedy and Everything Else, Jordan Jesse GO!, and Fitzdog Radio.

Actually I did hear him on C&EE. Mostly, it sounded like Marc Maron doing a monologue.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: trickrodd on March 23, 2010, 08:14:55 PM
Yeah, I think Marc may just be too honest for some people's taste. Brutal honesty is his bread and butter. I didn't mean to imply that the boot segment illustrated racism, just that if you are predisposed to see him as racist, it certainly wouldn't help. Again, I'm a really big fan. I've seen him twice in the last week, and hell, he even won me an ipod shuffle on an episode of I Love Movies, so there's that. But I still don't think he'd be a good fit for TBSOWFMU.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: put_it_away on March 24, 2010, 04:47:03 PM
Looks like I set off a bit of a firestorm. I would agree with others that Tom may be a better guest on WTF than Marc would be on the Best Show.

Either way, I'm content to listen to both shows each week on their own.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Andy from Atlanta on March 24, 2010, 07:00:38 PM
I've listened to his show on and off with mixed pleasure. At his best he can create an environment that makes for a very vulnerable and intimate interview but at his worst he can be overly personalized and narcissistic.

As far as the racist and misogynistic accusations on this thread, I have to say they hold merit. I'm on board with Barry Egan when he mentioned how every ethnic guest becomes a 'how hard it must be to actually be a minority' conversation. Anybody who takes college courses on race relations would automatically recognize his absolute fetishization with 'the other.' His more overt xenophobic remarks (I'm thinking of his travel stories in particular) don't help either.

Tom would be a better guest on his show for sure - but I don't see Tom being interested in guesting nor do I see Marc wanting Tom as a guest. Come on, it's a PODCAST WITH POTTY WORDS!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Barry Egan on March 25, 2010, 05:44:38 AM
As far as the racist and misogynistic accusations on this thread, I have to say they hold merit. I'm on board with Barry Egan when he mentioned how every ethnic guest becomes a 'how hard it must be to actually be a minority' conversation. Anybody who takes college courses on race relations would automatically recognize his absolute fetishization with 'the other.' His more overt xenophobic remarks (I'm thinking of his travel stories in particular) don't help either.

Thank you, Andy.  I was feeling alone on this one.

Again, I'd give Maron the benefit of the doubt on some of this questionable material if it was funnier and less condescending.

Also again, I wouldn't have this strong opinion about the guy if he wasn't dead set on branding himself the Raw Honest Comedian, which in addition to being 30 years past innovative, is ultimately about as honest as the Flamingo Guitar Comedian and the Ping-Pong Mouth-Juggler Comedian, and far less entertaining.

I'm less bothered by people thinking Maron's not a racist than people thinking he's a great interviewer.  He picks solid guests and delves into interesting topics, sure, but all that happens is the guest tells their story and then spends the rest of the time interviewing Marc Maron.  Every potentially interesting topic leads back to the same Sam Kinison Cocaine story, or a "I'm Horrible With Women" story.  He could interview Barack Obama and Merle Allin next week and about the same ground would be covered - this from a show that brags about its curiosity about people.  Come on.

He's one of the least curious comedians out there.  You're being hoodwinked, maximum funners.  
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: put_it_away on March 25, 2010, 08:54:53 AM
I take everything I said back. After listening to the show from February with Matt Walsh this morning on the way to work, it is very clear that Tom isn't keen on dirty, filthy podcasters. This wouldn't go well at all.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Chris L on March 25, 2010, 10:49:31 AM
I take everything I said back. After listening to the show from February with Matt Walsh this morning on the way to work, it is very clear that Tom isn't keen on dirty, filthy podcasters. This wouldn't go well at all.

I assume Maron was able to abide by FCC regulations during the time he was on Air America, when he co-hosted a show with a middle-aged black man (how racist).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Andy from Atlanta on March 25, 2010, 03:16:15 PM
You're right, Chris L because he knows and works with a black person then he must not be a racist. That makes sense.

I'm not saying Maron is a racist in the racial epithet spouting sense - but very few intelligent people are any more (and this is coming from someone who lives in Atlanta.) Maron does reduce minorities to stereotypes in order to rationalize their existence in his dominant world. Is it out of malice? no. Is it typical behavior of a white person of privilege who was raised in a home that probably had backwards views of race relations? probably. He's mentioned his childhood and father on numerous shows.

He also frequently offers reasoning why a person may be racist as a product of their upbringing or societal upbringing - in terms of defense for their behavior. Just listen to the Kumail Nanjiani episode - he does it frequently.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, I think Tom does an excellent job at handling issues of race and gender. If the topic even remotely veers towards something could be received as racist, sexist, or misogynistic he STEAMROLLS THE CHUMPS!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: TacoSmith on March 25, 2010, 03:20:32 PM
He's one of the least curious comedians out there.  You're being hoodwinked, maximum funners.  
Thanks you for finally opening my eyes. What a FOOL I've been.

P.S. Maximum funnners? Is the insinuation that we've all been convinced he's good by Jesse Thorn? No disrespect to Jesse, but you may be overestimating his influence.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 25, 2010, 07:12:58 PM
As far as the racist and misogynistic accusations on this thread, I have to say they hold merit. I'm on board with Barry Egan when he mentioned how every ethnic guest becomes a 'how hard it must be to actually be a minority' conversation. Anybody who takes college courses on race relations would automatically recognize his absolute fetishization with 'the other.' His more overt xenophobic remarks (I'm thinking of his travel stories in particular) don't help either.

Thank you, Andy.  I was feeling alone on this one.

Again, I'd give Maron the benefit of the doubt on some of this questionable material if it was funnier and less condescending.

Also again, I wouldn't have this strong opinion about the guy if he wasn't dead set on branding himself the Raw Honest Comedian, which in addition to being 30 years past innovative, is ultimately about as honest as the Flamingo Guitar Comedian and the Ping-Pong Mouth-Juggler Comedian, and far less entertaining.

I'm less bothered by people thinking Maron's not a racist than people thinking he's a great interviewer.  He picks solid guests and delves into interesting topics, sure, but all that happens is the guest tells their story and then spends the rest of the time interviewing Marc Maron.  Every potentially interesting topic leads back to the same Sam Kinison Cocaine story, or a "I'm Horrible With Women" story.  He could interview Barack Obama and Merle Allin next week and about the same ground would be covered - this from a show that brags about its curiosity about people.  Come on.

He's one of the least curious comedians out there.  You're being hoodwinked, maximum funners.  

I disagree. I've never heard the Kinison Cocaine story.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on March 25, 2010, 09:39:12 PM
As far as the racist and misogynistic accusations on this thread, I have to say they hold merit. I'm on board with Barry Egan when he mentioned how every ethnic guest becomes a 'how hard it must be to actually be a minority' conversation. Anybody who takes college courses on race relations would automatically recognize his absolute fetishization with 'the other.' His more overt xenophobic remarks (I'm thinking of his travel stories in particular) don't help either.

Thank you, Andy.  I was feeling alone on this one.

Again, I'd give Maron the benefit of the doubt on some of this questionable material if it was funnier and less condescending.

Also again, I wouldn't have this strong opinion about the guy if he wasn't dead set on branding himself the Raw Honest Comedian, which in addition to being 30 years past innovative, is ultimately about as honest as the Flamingo Guitar Comedian and the Ping-Pong Mouth-Juggler Comedian, and far less entertaining.

I'm less bothered by people thinking Maron's not a racist than people thinking he's a great interviewer.  He picks solid guests and delves into interesting topics, sure, but all that happens is the guest tells their story and then spends the rest of the time interviewing Marc Maron.  Every potentially interesting topic leads back to the same Sam Kinison Cocaine story, or a "I'm Horrible With Women" story.  He could interview Barack Obama and Merle Allin next week and about the same ground would be covered - this from a show that brags about its curiosity about people.  Come on.

He's one of the least curious comedians out there.  You're being hoodwinked, maximum funners.  

I disagree. I've never heard the Kinison Cocaine story.

I think he's told it twice in the near-60 episodes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: oilcantim on March 25, 2010, 09:49:01 PM
He also frequently offers reasoning why a person may be racist as a product of their upbringing or societal upbringing - in terms of defense for their behavior. Just listen to the Kumail Nanjiani episode - he does it frequently.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, I think Tom does an excellent job at handling issues of race and gender. If the topic even remotely veers towards something could be received as racist, sexist, or misogynistic he STEAMROLLS THE CHUMPS!

I assume you're being a bit facetious here... but if upbringing/societal factors aren't an explanation for 99% of racism, what is?  Demons?  A Meanness virus?

I think Maron views the podcast as a forum to discuss things that aren't otherwise discussed.  Tom's reaction to racists/misogynists, on the other hand, is about running a live radio show well.  Plugging your ears and going "nah nah nah nah" when someone says something awful in real life isn't a valid option, and neither is yelling at them. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Andy from Atlanta on March 25, 2010, 10:05:32 PM
He also frequently offers reasoning why a person may be racist as a product of their upbringing or societal upbringing - in terms of defense for their behavior. Just listen to the Kumail Nanjiani episode - he does it frequently.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, I think Tom does an excellent job at handling issues of race and gender. If the topic even remotely veers towards something could be received as racist, sexist, or misogynistic he STEAMROLLS THE CHUMPS!

I assume you're being a bit facetious here... but if upbringing/societal factors aren't an explanation for 99% of racism, what is?  Demons?  A Meanness virus?

I think Maron views the podcast as a forum to discuss things that aren't otherwise discussed.  Tom's reaction to racists/misogynists, on the other hand, is about running a live radio show well.  Plugging your ears and going "nah nah nah nah" when someone says something awful in real life isn't a valid option, and neither is yelling at them. 

I'm not being facetious and I'm not saying that societal background doesn't account for a majority of racism - BUT it isn't an excuse for being racist. That's the kind of thing I hear all the time - "He can't help he's racist just look at where he grew up!" You can help it. You can stop hate mongering.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: oilcantim on March 25, 2010, 10:56:39 PM
I think you're really underestimating how much of an effect those factors have on how we  see/react to our surroundings.  If you grow up in a racist society, you're hard wired to be racist, and it's very difficult for most people to recognize that and transcend it.  It's nearly impossible when you're stupid.

Why would someone stop hate mongering if they don't see what they do as hate mongering, and if nearly everyone and everything around them confirms all of their biases on a daily basis?  Plus, most racism isn't an active thing... if you're a black American, you're presented with an ideal of beauty that's very much caucasian.  You're told that the way you talk is flat out wrong.  These things obviously effect the way white people see black people too.

I think saying, "Just change how you act!" is overly simplistic.  I wish it were that simple, though.  Don't get me wrong!

(What was this thread about, again?  My views on racism, right?  Oh, good.)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: scratchbomb on March 25, 2010, 11:26:25 PM
If I could get lighter for a moment...

I saw Marc Maron in a short film years and years ago, "Stalker Guilt Syndrome", that I still think is hysterical. (ALthough this may add fuel to the "kinda misogynistic" fire).

http://jumbodump.com/2007/04/26/marc-maron-stalker-guilt-syndrome-short-film-nsfw/
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ojingeo on March 26, 2010, 12:49:16 AM
I would do Marc Maron; but I want Tom to have my baby.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Andy from Atlanta on March 26, 2010, 10:11:39 AM
I think you're really underestimating how much of an effect those factors have on how we  see/react to our surroundings.  If you grow up in a racist society, you're hard wired to be racist, and it's very difficult for most people to recognize that and transcend it.  It's nearly impossible when you're stupid.

Why would someone stop hate mongering if they don't see what they do as hate mongering, and if nearly everyone and everything around them confirms all of their biases on a daily basis?  Plus, most racism isn't an active thing... if you're a black American, you're presented with an ideal of beauty that's very much caucasian.  You're told that the way you talk is flat out wrong.  These things obviously effect the way white people see black people too.

I think saying, "Just change how you act!" is overly simplistic.  I wish it were that simple, though.  Don't get me wrong!

(What was this thread about, again?  My views on racism, right?  Oh, good.)

You know what, Empty Sockets? We agree on more than you think but unfortunately neither of us will realize that if we continue a conversation of this sort one post at a time.

I actually mostly agree with the above post you wrote. It is extremely hard to break out of that. My point was that we shouldn't treat it as a handicap for those people - at one point you have to tell them it's just wrong for them to realize it. And you're right, they can't just wake up and decide to not be racist all by themselves.

Marc Maron, What? Who's That?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 26, 2010, 08:10:35 PM
As far as the racist and misogynistic accusations on this thread, I have to say they hold merit. I'm on board with Barry Egan when he mentioned how every ethnic guest becomes a 'how hard it must be to actually be a minority' conversation. Anybody who takes college courses on race relations would automatically recognize his absolute fetishization with 'the other.' His more overt xenophobic remarks (I'm thinking of his travel stories in particular) don't help either.

Thank you, Andy.  I was feeling alone on this one.

Again, I'd give Maron the benefit of the doubt on some of this questionable material if it was funnier and less condescending.

Also again, I wouldn't have this strong opinion about the guy if he wasn't dead set on branding himself the Raw Honest Comedian, which in addition to being 30 years past innovative, is ultimately about as honest as the Flamingo Guitar Comedian and the Ping-Pong Mouth-Juggler Comedian, and far less entertaining.

I'm less bothered by people thinking Maron's not a racist than people thinking he's a great interviewer.  He picks solid guests and delves into interesting topics, sure, but all that happens is the guest tells their story and then spends the rest of the time interviewing Marc Maron.  Every potentially interesting topic leads back to the same Sam Kinison Cocaine story, or a "I'm Horrible With Women" story.  He could interview Barack Obama and Merle Allin next week and about the same ground would be covered - this from a show that brags about its curiosity about people.  Come on.

He's one of the least curious comedians out there.  You're being hoodwinked, maximum funners.  

I disagree. I've never heard the Kinison Cocaine story.

I think he's told it twice in the near-60 episodes.

I must have only listened to 29 episodes so far. That explains it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on March 26, 2010, 08:49:45 PM
So, what I've gathered from this thread is that some of us like him and some of us don't and most of us think it would be interesting to hear Marc and Tom speak with one another.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on March 26, 2010, 09:36:45 PM
As someone who loves both, I could care less if they ever spoke.  I hope you're not losing too much sleep over my enjoyment of Marc's podcast, Barry Egan.

PS: "hoodwinked"? What are you, Malcolm X?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 27, 2010, 01:34:07 PM
The chickens are going to come home to roost, Marc Maron fans.

Speaking of which, we're going to see him tonight...I'll report back.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: todd on March 27, 2010, 01:37:00 PM
[url]http://comedians.jokes.com/marc-maron/videos/marc-maron---sexually-acting-out[/url]

I said kinda misogynist, as 90% of the time he talks about women he makes them sound like traumatized manipulative monsters who are only good for sex.  Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the vibe I get from him over and over again.  He brags about sleeping with his "stalkers" and flirts with just about all of his female guests.  I think he even creeped out Margaret Cho, and that's no small feat.

Even worse is that every woman or minority he has on the show automatically becomes the "what it's like to be a woman and/or minority" show.  Fine, maybe he doesn't outright hate, but he certainly does compartmentalize people, relishing in their "otherness" to make him seem all tolerant and evolved.  I call bullshit.

Also, his favorite line, "I'm not racist, but I'm nervous" is uh... that's what racist people say, right?

I can't believe I'm alone on this one, but if I am, fine.  As Tom says, "That's why God made horse races".


I wanna agree with you that he's not that funny, isn't as smart as he thinks he is, and isn't the world's best interviewer (he can be great sometimes: but thats because he's friends with them and knows where the juicy stories are).

However:

Your examples of his racism and sexism are terrible. They're jokes, dipshit.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 27, 2010, 01:48:23 PM
But I really LIKE Don Rickles.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on April 09, 2010, 04:33:40 PM
The chickens are going to come home to roost, Marc Maron fans.

Speaking of which, we're going to see him tonight...I'll report back.

How was the show? Were you at the one with the crazy crying heckler that he talked about on the following podcast?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on April 09, 2010, 11:04:41 PM
The chickens are going to come home to roost, Marc Maron fans.

Speaking of which, we're going to see him tonight...I'll report back.

How was the show? Were you at the one with the crazy crying heckler that he talked about on the following podcast?

Naw, I was there the night after.

The opening comedian kind of sucked. He was doing a bit where he was pretending to be 2 rednecks debating politics and then shooting each other. It felt like it would never end. Then Maron comes out and says 'I know you people were wondering where is this guy going with this, and is he ever going to stop? That's commitment!', and that defused the tension in the room from nobody particularly wanting to be mean to the guy (who, weirdly enough, was on the podcast with Maron, who was pretty complimentary - although it's kind of clear Maron took a certain glee in watching this guy mess with the crowd).

We were in the front row and at times he'd look straight in my eyes, and it was a bit scary. Overall, a very funny show, a lot of rather smart jokes, and he was really approachable ('hey come see me after the show, I like to say hi'). He did mention the crying woman at the show, and it was funny to hear more about it on the podcast.

It was also quite cool that he was so complimentary to the club. The guy that runs the place is a guy who really loves comedy and does a great job getting comedians in, and it helps to get the good word of mouth from comedians that play there...it means more great shows for those of us living in Bloomington.

Also, Indiana IS the source of much of the nation's fat, so we can't exactly take much offense at that. Pork and corn syrup (and gambling) prop up the economy around here.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on April 12, 2010, 04:50:23 PM
The chickens are going to come home to roost, Marc Maron fans.

Speaking of which, we're going to see him tonight...I'll report back.

How was the show? Were you at the one with the crazy crying heckler that he talked about on the following podcast?

Naw, I was there the night after.

The opening comedian kind of sucked. He was doing a bit where he was pretending to be 2 rednecks debating politics and then shooting each other. It felt like it would never end. Then Maron comes out and says 'I know you people were wondering where is this guy going with this, and is he ever going to stop? That's commitment!', and that defused the tension in the room from nobody particularly wanting to be mean to the guy (who, weirdly enough, was on the podcast with Maron, who was pretty complimentary - although it's kind of clear Maron took a certain glee in watching this guy mess with the crowd).

We were in the front row and at times he'd look straight in my eyes, and it was a bit scary. Overall, a very funny show, a lot of rather smart jokes, and he was really approachable ('hey come see me after the show, I like to say hi'). He did mention the crying woman at the show, and it was funny to hear more about it on the podcast.

It was also quite cool that he was so complimentary to the club. The guy that runs the place is a guy who really loves comedy and does a great job getting comedians in, and it helps to get the good word of mouth from comedians that play there...it means more great shows for those of us living in Bloomington.

Also, Indiana IS the source of much of the nation's fat, so we can't exactly take much offense at that. Pork and corn syrup (and gambling) prop up the economy around here.

Yeah, I've heard a lot of comics praise that club. Almost makes me wish I still lived in Indiana. I learned last year that one shouldn't sit in the front row of a comedy show when I found myself being the strait man in two comics at a show during the Bridgetown Fest. I'm glad you liked it, I'm going to try to catch his show at this year's Bridgetown Fest.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Barry Egan on April 14, 2010, 02:39:08 AM

I wanna agree with you that he's not that funny, isn't as smart as he thinks he is, and isn't the world's best interviewer (he can be great sometimes: but thats because he's friends with them and knows where the juicy stories are).

However:

Your examples of his racism and sexism are terrible. They're jokes, dipshit.

I haven't checked this thread in awhile, so this "Go fuck yourself" is three weeks belated.  

Tell me what else is a joke that I've been too dumb to get, condescending cock.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on April 14, 2010, 12:55:20 PM
Alright guys, this isn't 4chan.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Tom Scharpling on April 14, 2010, 03:22:34 PM
Yes. Let's stop fighting over whether Marc Maron is your favorite or if he isn't. Take it to ChatRoulette, guys.

Tom.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: todd on April 14, 2010, 08:44:06 PM
I can't wait to go to ChatRoulette and show Marc Maron my dick!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: slipperyslope on April 21, 2010, 12:04:50 PM
Yes. Let's stop fighting over whether Marc Maron is your favorite or if he isn't. Take it to ChatRoulette, guys.

Tom.

I'll be the guy holding the graph paper with black magic marker message saying "Marc Maron is alright, I guess"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on April 21, 2010, 07:57:03 PM
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Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on April 28, 2010, 07:12:58 PM
I can now say with confidence that Marc Maron is not a racist and he is a nice dude.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on April 28, 2010, 07:33:43 PM
You can be a racist and still be a nice dude.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Big Plastic Head on April 29, 2010, 12:34:17 AM
You can be a racist and still be a nice dude.

Nope.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Joe Rogaine on April 29, 2010, 01:40:50 AM
Heard him on the radio this morning he was pretty raunchy as far as sex goes. Good to hear he's finally over his divorce though.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on April 29, 2010, 12:19:01 PM
If you haven't listened to his interview with Robin Williams yet, do so.  I actually went into it wondering how much of it I'd be able to stand,  but it was actually pretty good, even though Mr. Williams did go off on a tear or two.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on April 29, 2010, 07:14:47 PM
If you haven't listened to his interview with Robin Williams yet, do so.  I actually went into it wondering how much of it I'd be able to stand,  but it was actually pretty good, even though Mr. Williams did go off on a tear or two.

I enjoyed that, of course recently I read a book about the old Comedy Store days, so it was interesting to hear him talk about them.

I also liked the opening monologue where Maron expresses some regret about putting Williams down in the past.

It was rather surprising that Williams was for the most part a bit on the soft-spoken side. Guess for whatever reason he didn't feel obliged to go on too many tears during the interview.

Also: mentions of Sam Kinison, and mentions of cocaine, but no mention of the Sam Kinison cocaine story.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on April 29, 2010, 07:31:03 PM
If you haven't listened to his interview with Robin Williams yet, do so.  I actually went into it wondering how much of it I'd be able to stand,  but it was actually pretty good, even though Mr. Williams did go off on a tear or two.

I enjoyed that, of course recently I read a book about the old Comedy Store days, so it was interesting to hear him talk about them.

I also liked the opening monologue where Maron expresses some regret about putting Williams down in the past.

It was rather surprising that Williams was for the most part a bit on the soft-spoken side. Guess for whatever reason he didn't feel obliged to go on too many tears during the interview.

Also: mentions of Sam Kinison, and mentions of cocaine, but no mention of the Sam Kinison cocaine story.


There were a couple of groaners (when Williams described someone's comedy as being "like jazz"), but on the whole I found him rather likable and much less obnoxious than I would've expected.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on April 30, 2010, 12:46:30 PM
I think tht's why i was so surprised by it.  Mr. Williams seemed like a calm, down-to-earth guy.  Also, he had every right to be angry at folks who've accused him of plagiarism and the like (even if their accusations were accurate), but he seemed really contrite and kind about it.  His humility surprised me.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on May 01, 2010, 02:29:17 PM
I think tht's why i was so surprised by it.  Mr. Williams seemed like a calm, down-to-earth guy.  Also, he had every right to be angry at folks who've accused him of plagiarism and the like (even if their accusations were accurate), but he seemed really contrite and kind about it.  His humility surprised me.

I just saw World's Greatest Dad! Best Williams performance in at least 10 years, and maybe ever.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 01, 2010, 03:25:51 PM
I think tht's why i was so surprised by it.  Mr. Williams seemed like a calm, down-to-earth guy.  Also, he had every right to be angry at folks who've accused him of plagiarism and the like (even if their accusations were accurate), but he seemed really contrite and kind about it.  His humility surprised me.

I just saw World's Greatest Dad! Best Williams performance in at least 10 years, and maybe ever.

Agreed. Great performance, great movie.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on May 03, 2010, 09:56:09 AM
If you haven't listened to his interview with Robin Williams yet, do so.  I actually went into it wondering how much of it I'd be able to stand,  but it was actually pretty good, even though Mr. Williams did go off on a tear or two.

I enjoyed that, of course recently I read a book about the old Comedy Store days, so it was interesting to hear him talk about them.

I also liked the opening monologue where Maron expresses some regret about putting Williams down in the past.

It was rather surprising that Williams was for the most part a bit on the soft-spoken side. Guess for whatever reason he didn't feel obliged to go on too many tears during the interview.

Also: mentions of Sam Kinison, and mentions of cocaine, but no mention of the Sam Kinison cocaine story.


There were a couple of groaners (when Williams described someone's comedy as being "like jazz"), but on the whole I found him rather likable and much less obnoxious than I would've expected.

So nothing from his stable of horrible voices?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on May 03, 2010, 11:03:08 AM

So nothing from his stable of horrible voices?

that stable has two horses in it: 1) John Wayne, and 2) Sassy Black Woman.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on May 03, 2010, 11:23:18 AM

So nothing from his stable of horrible voices?

that stable has two horses in it: 1) John Wayne, and 2) Sassy Black Woman.

um, "gay voice"?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on May 03, 2010, 11:26:43 AM

So nothing from his stable of horrible voices?

that stable has two horses in it: 1) John Wayne, and 2) Sassy Black Woman.

um, "gay voice"?

Oh yeah! I forgot that one, and Stoner Guy too.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 03, 2010, 11:35:36 AM

So nothing from his stable of horrible voices?

that stable has two horses in it: 1) John Wayne, and 2) Sassy Black Woman.

um, "gay voice"?

The Chris Rock voice he did during the interview was kind of egregious, but it was over fairly quickly.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on May 03, 2010, 11:48:03 AM

So nothing from his stable of horrible voices?

that stable has two horses in it: 1) John Wayne, and 2) Sassy Black Woman.

um, "gay voice"?

Oh yeah! I forgot that one, and Stoner Guy too.

I believe "gay voice" also doubles as "southern voice".
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 03, 2010, 11:49:46 AM
C'mon guys. You're acting like Mrs. Doubtfire had never been filmed.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on May 03, 2010, 05:15:24 PM
Actually, the interview with Steven Pearl was everything I dreaded the Robin Williams interview would be.  Pearl just manically and without context (or only the flimsiest of contexts) did schtick, and then they complained about how all music today sucks.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bernard on May 03, 2010, 05:56:17 PM
Actually, the interview with Steven Pearl was everything I dreaded the Robin Williams interview would be.  Pearl just manically and without context (or only the flimsiest of contexts) did schtick, and then they complained about how all music today sucks.

Yeah, I'm with you 100% Pastor Josh.  The Williams interview was very good, IMO.  I was expecting an audio version of one of his Late Night/Tonight Show appearances.  It was a nice change of pace to hear him turned down to a 6.  

Honestly, I hadn't heard of Steven Pearl before WTF.  I probably won't be seeking his appearances out anytime soon.  I kept thinking of the Triumph - Stinky Faye (Horatio Sanz) routine where they talk about how good comedy useta be.  

Sidenote: I had a dream with Marc Maron after listening to this Podcast.  I dunno why, but I went out to Las Vegas to stay at Marc's house (the Cat Ranch.  I know he lives in LA, but in my dream, he was in Vegas).  When I got there, Marc and a real-life friend of mine where hanging out in his basement doing drugs together(!).  Then we went to a department store and I couldn't find my way around, and got lost in the make-up department.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 03, 2010, 06:32:44 PM
Actually, the interview with Steven Pearl was everything I dreaded the Robin Williams interview would be.  Pearl just manically and without context (or only the flimsiest of contexts) did schtick, and then they complained about how all music today sucks.

I thought almost the exact same thing at the end of the interview. I don't even think this interview reflects negatively on his comedy (which I know nothing about) - he was just trying WAY too hard.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on May 03, 2010, 08:38:56 PM
I was unfamiliar with him, too, but I was glad to hear he was happy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: oilcantim on May 03, 2010, 10:21:48 PM
Yeah, I was thinking by the end, "Hey Steve, maybe your career hasn't been what you'd hoped because you're almost insufferable in conversation."

To be fair, he may have been laying it on thick because it's an interview.  Either way, off-putting!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 03, 2010, 11:03:33 PM
I need to listen to this.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lemon Session on May 28, 2010, 02:42:42 AM
I thought this week's interviews with Carlos Mencia were pretty great. If nothing else you have to appreciate the drama of it all...

I'd love to hear Maron come on the show just to hear Tom's opinions on the Mencia and the interview.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 28, 2010, 06:37:25 AM
Yeah, the two Mencia shows were pretty amazing stuff. Mencia does come across as slightly unstable or possibly mentally ill.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on May 28, 2010, 12:44:21 PM
I came away from those feeling very sympathetic to Mencia, but not for the reasons he was pushing.  He did seem mentally ill, or at least to have some severe personality disorders.  Part of me wishes Marc had pushed him a little more, but I think he just realized there was something deeply broken in Mencia and pushing would just be cruel.  Overall, though, the two episodes were fascinating.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lemon Session on May 28, 2010, 01:47:13 PM
What I find so interesting is that in the music world, Mencia would still be considered talented. He could say he's a cover artist and people would still respect him.

In a way, I've known people like him: people who feel the need to prove to others that they're great, and usually they do so by lying. When they're caught, they can't stop lying. To me, it just goes to show that Mencia is a regular guy who could've ended up at my office instead of on a TV show.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on May 28, 2010, 03:14:19 PM
This thread made me curious enough to check out the Steven Pearl thing and I realized while listening that, while I have been to comedy clubs maybe three times in my life, I saw this guy at one of them--at the Holy City Zoo in SF, back in the early 80s, just like they're sayin.'  I do remember laughing quite hard.  At this interview, not so much.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: waltkellysghost on May 30, 2010, 02:31:13 AM
Maron haters might get a kick out of episode 69. It's a live show where almost every guest tells a story of when Marc was a condescending snot to them at some point in their careers.

It almost seemed like a roast. It felt like there was some genuine revenge riffing going on.

Marc also embarrases himself by confusing Jamaica with Haiti.

I gotta give the guy respect for posting an episode that makes him look like a complete dolt.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on May 30, 2010, 08:53:40 AM
I admired his determination and directness in trying to get to the truth about Mencia. 



Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 30, 2010, 12:25:38 PM
I found the 2 Mencia episodes fascinating. Any sympathy I may have felt for Mencia evaporated when toward the end he claimed he had friends who wanted to beat up the people calling him out for joke thievery, but Mencia told them not to do it. What a humanitarian.

On the joke thievery bit, Maron made the good point that with the really hacky jokes (black people drive like this, white people drive like this), a lot of times there's nothing particularly original about the jokes. They may as well be public domain.

There's also a lot in the delivery of a joke. Somebody with a great joke who sucks on stage is never going to get too far. Some people have more talent when it comes to connecting with an audience. There are 'comedians' who don't particularly have any jokes, but seem to do well on stage. The immediate example coming to mind is Charlie Murphy. For whatever reason I was watching his special, and he was engaging and entertaining, but when there were jokes, they were really no great shakes.

All that said, it was pretty clear Mencia never writes or even tried to. I suppose he did pay people (or people were paid) to write for his show, which was at least fair, but early on he was pretty clearly just stealing stuff. Even aside from the thievery he comes off as a really horrible person, his confessional contrite bits sound like they come from a bully trying to get some sympathy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Sploops on May 30, 2010, 01:57:48 PM
Any sympathy I may have felt for Mencia evaporated when toward the end he claimed he had friends who wanted to beat up the people calling him out for joke thievery, but Mencia told them not to do it. What a humanitarian.

"People think I got the power because I got the monkeys.  Nope.  I got the power because I'll let the monkeys loose."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: waltkellysghost on May 30, 2010, 03:34:39 PM
Any sympathy I may have felt for Mencia evaporated when toward the end he claimed he had friends who wanted to beat up the people calling him out for joke thievery, but Mencia told them not to do it. What a humanitarian.


Agreed. He wanted a pat on the back for not doing something he wasn't supposed to do anyway.

I'm sure the amount of people who have genuine beef against Mencia far outweigh his actual friends.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lemon Session on May 30, 2010, 04:07:45 PM
Any sympathy I may have felt for Mencia evaporated when toward the end he claimed he had friends who wanted to beat up the people calling him out for joke thievery, but Mencia told them not to do it. What a humanitarian.
Agreed. He wanted a pat on the back for not doing something he wasn't supposed to do anyway.
I'm sure the amount of people who have genuine beef against Mencia far outweigh his actual friends.

He couldn't have sounded more immature when he said that. He was acting like a nerd making excuses after getting beaten up in a fight -- "That guy's lucky my shoes were too heavy, because I would've roundhouse-kicked him in the face."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 30, 2010, 09:59:42 PM
Bro.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on May 31, 2010, 09:14:29 AM
I am just now getting around to the Robin Williams interview. It's terribly entertaining.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 02, 2010, 01:52:43 PM
Here's the Mencia interview in a nutshell;

"I sincerely want to apologize to anyone whose material I may have stolen, even though I didn't, except for this time, and that time, and these three other times, but if I did, I am really REALLY sorry, and by the way, my brahs are going to beat the shit out of you for hurting my feelings for saying I stole your stuff, even if I did, which I definitely didn't."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on June 03, 2010, 09:55:10 AM
I'm struggling to think of a person more out of touch with his own reality. 

These interviews (pts. 1&2) are amazing. 

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on June 03, 2010, 10:15:47 AM
I've been following this thread with big-time interest b/c I wasn't able to get to the podcasts right away ... finally listened to them last weekend. I don't have much to add that hasn't already been said quite well ... Maron might be a super-solipsistic dude, and he was very likely an absolute tool in his younger full-of-beans coked-up days, but Mencia has most if not all the boxes checked on his handy dandy DSM "Are You a Sociopath?" checklist.

A couple of times when Mencia was dealing with the joke stealing charges, I was reminded of OJ Simpson's book "If I Did It" (the only good thing about that book was that it brought down Judith Regan) ... There's this weird quality of detaching from the thing and describing how it could or couldn't be done (or even creepier-should've been done) as though Mencia (or Simpson) was running color commentary on himself. Totally weird.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ojingeo on June 04, 2010, 04:25:11 AM
Now if we could only get Marc Maron to interview Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope!!!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on June 04, 2010, 01:28:13 PM
I think Mencia stumbled and showed his cards when talking about the Bill Cosby bit. He'd never heard it yet he knew it was from one of the most iconic stand up recordings of all time... so he's heard. I listened with an open mind but it just confirmed that most if not all of the rumors about him are true. As for Maron, there is something about a douche that knows he's a douche that makes him a little less douchey.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jamesp on June 05, 2010, 12:01:40 AM
The next guest I'd like to hear is Katt Williams. Of course I'm guessing Maron and him don't exactly cross paths in the comedy world but Katt is certifiably insane now and it'd be an interesting interview.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on June 05, 2010, 10:07:38 AM
It'd be cool if he interviewed Carrot Top. Talk about damaged goods...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on June 05, 2010, 10:32:36 AM
And then he should track down Gallagher.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: slipperyslope on June 05, 2010, 01:55:37 PM
What I like most about Maron's podcast is when he breaks the format and does something like...the show he recorded in a car on the way to some place with some people, or when he went to Robin Williams' house. Yes the interview itself was kind of interesting for some people, but it felt different because he wasn't at his usual spot.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on June 05, 2010, 05:25:47 PM
I heard Ben Stiller will be on the show next week.

Also, for those who don't know, he's starting to offer special "bonus" episodes for sale on the website. The first one was just released and it's a live show from Comix in NYC with an amazing guest lineup - John Mulaney, Morgan Murphy, Todd Barry, Janeane Garfolo, Greg Giraldo, and Tom Shillue. Things get REALLY awkward with Morgan Murphy (I don't want to spoil it, but let's say they have some shared baggage). If you're a fan of the show, it's definitely worth the $3.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on June 05, 2010, 08:47:42 PM
I LOVE Katt Williams. I hope he gets better.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bernard on June 28, 2010, 10:57:52 PM
The Dane Cook interview is really good.

Although not on the same level as Mencia, Cook comes off a slightly bitter, kinda angry dude.  It's worth a listen; Marc does a great job of bringing up the Louis CK controversy and, IMO, Dane has a much better answer than Carlos.  It's a really good conversation, although it definitely didn't convert me as a Dane Cook fan (not that that was the purpose of the interview, but I like to go into the WTFs with comics I have a pre-conceived notion about with an open mind.  See also: The Jim Norton interview).  

I've really enjoyed the last few WTFs; pretty much everything since the Mencia podcasts have been good (although I haven't listened to The Sklar Bros. one yet).  It's found a place in my weekly Podcast playlist.

ALSO: Marc's material about the one comic stealing Dane's "essence" is great.  
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Joe Rogaine on June 29, 2010, 12:41:25 AM
Isn't Robin Williams known material thief too? I know there were a couple of instances that ive heard about where he went on talks shows and told "real life stories" that other comedians use in their acts and passed them off as something that happened to him.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: put_it_away on June 29, 2010, 09:37:15 AM
Isn't Robin Williams known material thief too? I know there were a couple of instances that ive heard about where he went on talks shows and told "real life stories" that other comedians use in their acts and passed them off as something that happened to him.

Yes, and Maron addresses that in the podcast with Robin. It's a good listen.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on June 29, 2010, 11:12:47 AM
I somehow missed the Dane Cook and Katt Williams shows. I will have to circle back and check those out.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 29, 2010, 12:32:28 PM
Isn't Robin Williams known material thief too? I know there were a couple of instances that ive heard about where he went on talks shows and told "real life stories" that other comedians use in their acts and passed them off as something that happened to him.

Yes, and Maron addresses that in the podcast with Robin. It's a good listen.

I also strongly recommend that one.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on June 29, 2010, 01:22:15 PM
I somehow missed the Dane Cook and Katt Williams shows. I will have to circle back and check those out.

The Dane Cook is the latest, and there isn't a Katt Williams episode. We just got on a Katt digression.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on June 29, 2010, 05:49:29 PM
Katt has lost his mind, that much is true. I find him pretty entertaining in his way.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on June 29, 2010, 08:42:25 PM
I thought the Dane Cook interview was good but Maron took a turn for the douche toward the end there. He got a bit childish but then kind of brought it back. Cook seemed no douchier than usual.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Joe Rogaine on June 29, 2010, 11:11:37 PM
Isn't Robin Williams known material thief too? I know there were a couple of instances that ive heard about where he went on talks shows and told "real life stories" that other comedians use in their acts and passed them off as something that happened to him.

Yes, and Maron addresses that in the podcast with Robin. It's a good listen.


What was Robin's response?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on June 30, 2010, 01:08:47 AM

What was Robin's response?


http://wtfpod.libsyn.com/episode_67_robin_williams

Elbow grease, Luther. Elbow grease.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: TacoSmith on June 30, 2010, 10:50:33 AM
One of my favorite WTF's in recent memory was the one where Marc and Maria Bamford are traveling together. It gets really personal, almost to the point where you feel like you shouldn't be listening in, but is extremely fascinating. Plus, Maria is one of the best people on the planet.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: akaJudge on June 30, 2010, 11:02:56 AM
I just relistened to all her albums I have.  I never get tired of her, ever.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on July 15, 2010, 03:53:59 PM
I finally heard the Mencia interviews. It made me just want to crawl in my bed and cry. God damn.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on July 15, 2010, 09:04:15 PM
The Dane Cook interview is really good.

Although not on the same level as Mencia, Cook comes off a slightly bitter, kinda angry dude.  It's worth a listen; Marc does a great job of bringing up the Louis CK controversy and, IMO, Dane has a much better answer than Carlos.  It's a really good conversation, although it definitely didn't convert me as a Dane Cook fan (not that that was the purpose of the interview, but I like to go into the WTFs with comics I have a pre-conceived notion about with an open mind.  See also: The Jim Norton interview). 

I've really enjoyed the last few WTFs; pretty much everything since the Mencia podcasts have been good (although I haven't listened to The Sklar Bros. one yet).  It's found a place in my weekly Podcast playlist.

ALSO: Marc's material about the one comic stealing Dane's "essence" is great. 

The bit about 'stealing my essence' was great, especially as he seemed to be genuinely annoying Dane Cook. Dane started to sound like some HR guy trying to keep the office goof in line.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on July 16, 2010, 12:41:27 AM
I'm going to see him at Brooklyn's Union Hall Monday.  I virtually never go to see comedians--well, I tried to get a ticket for PaulFT at the Bell House, but got aced out--but hey, the Best Show has me thinking I oughta start.  I understand the issues some have with Maron on the sexism/douchebag tips, but he was on Air America, James Wolcott loves him, and he does seem to be a good interviewer.  So who the hell knows?  I went to the Prospect Park show hosted by Eugene Mirman a couple of weeks ago and hey, Maron has to be funnier than Mark Showalter.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on July 16, 2010, 01:25:17 PM
Holy crud, this week's show with Joe Wagner is the most unsettling episode yet. Yeesh. Still love it, though.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on July 16, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
I saw Marc Maron here at the Comedy Attic (well, Funnybone at the time), and he was awesome.  I love how he rolled the first night into his podcast.  Definitely not Hard-G, but it might be interesting to listen to the dynamic between these two titans of comedy.  Whether it's Scharpling on wtf or Maron on TBS, probably won't matter because it probably won't happen.   :-\
 :'(
 >:(
 :)

I was at the Saturday show at the then Funnybone when he came to town. It was indeed an awesome comedy show.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Joe Rogaine on July 20, 2010, 12:30:17 AM
Marc was on the radio today and mentioned that he feels great,  got rid of his old girlfriend, got a new girlfriend  but self admittedly has forgotten how to be funny. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on July 21, 2010, 04:28:26 AM
let it be said that "funny" and "awesome" are two different notions.

Let it also be said that Maron pulls off both.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on July 21, 2010, 02:36:22 PM
I always have to skip ahead to the interview when listening to his podcast. He sounds like a seventeen-year-old during his trials-and-tribulations rants.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Joe Rogaine on July 22, 2010, 12:11:55 AM
Anybody hear his worst comedy gig story about the first time he performed in Australia?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cas-vik on July 22, 2010, 01:27:22 PM
Anybody hear his worst comedy gig story about the first time he performed in Australia?

No. Where would one find this story?

And Alex P, I feel the same way.  The interviews are fantastic but I find his monologues in the openings sort of embarrassing.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on July 22, 2010, 02:32:44 PM
Actually I enjoy the opening monologues, they amuse me for some reason. The bit with wearing the jeans in the hot bath comes to mind...or the speculation as to why God destroyed the big Jesus statue with lightning.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on July 23, 2010, 01:42:52 AM
Actually I enjoy the opening monologues, they amuse me for some reason. The bit with wearing the jeans in the hot bath comes to mind...or the speculation as to why God destroyed the big Jesus statue with lightning.

The one where he got busted cheating by the airline sending the receipt to his house was amazing.  And it takes some kind of courage to share stuff like that.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: put_it_away on July 23, 2010, 09:41:04 AM
I'm catching up on some episodes now. Currently listening to the Maria Bamford one. Sometimes the show feels less like comedy and more like I am listening in on an intense therapy session.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: colonel panic on July 23, 2010, 12:27:57 PM
Let me start this by saying that I love WTF and look forward to it. I had no idea who he was until the podcast and now I'm a fan.

But I dread the coffee slurping and the inevitable "BLAM" (or whatever he says). I think my sensitivity stems from there being  a champion slurper in my cubicle farm.

I root for Mark in the intro monologues but yeah, I kind of wince sometimes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mike_b on July 23, 2010, 04:06:23 PM
The two-part Carlos Mencia episode was one of the most fascinating thing I've ever downloaded for free. If you're on the fence at all, check those out.

I'd like to see Tom sit down with Marc, too.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bernard on July 26, 2010, 01:02:36 PM


But I dread the coffee slurping and the inevitable "BLAM" (or whatever he says).

I definitely don't dread the "SLURP! BAM!" (I kinda like it as a catch phrase), but I'm not sure I'd want to purchase a coffee that makes Marc shit his pants. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Jouster on July 26, 2010, 07:55:25 PM
It's "Pow," you guys.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on July 26, 2010, 10:05:43 PM
I think he's just exaggerating one of the less-talked-about health benefits of coffee drinking.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bernard on July 26, 2010, 11:42:34 PM
I think he's just exaggerating one of the less-talked-about health benefits of coffee drinking.

He's not exaggerating and has, in fact, shit his pants nearly 100 times plugging justcoffee.coop.  It's why he had to buy new jeans.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: snogrog on July 29, 2010, 07:00:40 PM
Started listening to WTF myself. Good stuff, indeed! Very interesting interviewer, and I always enjoy when he talks with his dad.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on July 30, 2010, 10:26:12 PM
The Dane Cook interview is really good.

Although not on the same level as Mencia, Cook comes off a slightly bitter, kinda angry dude.  It's worth a listen; Marc does a great job of bringing up the Louis CK controversy and, IMO, Dane has a much better answer than Carlos.  It's a really good conversation, although it definitely didn't convert me as a Dane Cook fan (not that that was the purpose of the interview, but I like to go into the WTFs with comics I have a pre-conceived notion about with an open mind.  See also: The Jim Norton interview). 

I've really enjoyed the last few WTFs; pretty much everything since the Mencia podcasts have been good (although I haven't listened to The Sklar Bros. one yet).  It's found a place in my weekly Podcast playlist.

ALSO: Marc's material about the one comic stealing Dane's "essence" is great. 

The bit about 'stealing my essence' was great, especially as he seemed to be genuinely annoying Dane Cook. Dane started to sound like some HR guy trying to keep the office goof in line.

I just listened to the Dane Cook interview today. He came across as a nice enough guy to me. At no point did he say anything funny, but I'm more inclined to believe his version of his "joke stealing" accusations than I am Mencia's. I don't know if he seemed bitter and angry. I thought he just seemed a little overly defensive and was really on guard in case Maron really decided to go at him. I think he's probably got some mental problems, but I also think anyone who reaches his level of success has to be a little bit nuts.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Barry Egan on August 03, 2010, 12:19:13 AM
Oneal or Maron:  Who would you rather see hook up with your sister?  Discuss...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on August 03, 2010, 10:10:58 AM
Oneal or Maron:  Who would you rather see hook up with your sister?  Discuss...

Talk about a two-way tie for last...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on August 03, 2010, 10:33:08 AM
I loved how Patrice O'Neal kept punctuating the horrible things he was saying with the refrain, "But I don't do that because I'm a good person."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on August 03, 2010, 02:12:34 PM
Oneal or Maron:  Who would you rather see hook up with your sister?  Discuss...

Obviously Patrice, because I wouldn't want you thinking I'm a racist.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on August 03, 2010, 04:19:05 PM
Oneal or Maron:  Who would you rather see hook up with your sister?  Discuss...

Obviously Patrice, because I wouldn't want you thinking I'm a racist.

So you admit to being an anti-Semite?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Barry Egan on August 03, 2010, 06:02:05 PM
Oneal or Maron:  Who would you rather see hook up with your sister?  Discuss...

Obviously Patrice, because I wouldn't want you thinking I'm a racist.

The correct answer is Maron, because I hate your sister.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on August 03, 2010, 06:05:25 PM
Oneal or Maron:  Who would you rather see hook up with your sister?  Discuss...

Obviously Patrice, because I wouldn't want you thinking I'm a racist.

So you admit to being an anti-Semite?

I knew I should've just covered all my bigot basis with Mel Gibson.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on August 03, 2010, 07:39:18 PM
I loved how Patrice O'Neal kept punctuating the horrible things he was saying with the refrain, "But I don't do that because I'm a good person."

I'm only halfway through the episode now, but what a piece of work that guy is. The analogy about the fish who jumps back in the boat was so revealing of his damaged psychology that I laughed out loud in my car.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mike_b on August 04, 2010, 03:08:09 PM
That Patrice interview made my eyes water.

Jesus, dude.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on August 05, 2010, 07:13:48 AM
That Patrice interview made my eyes water.

Jesus, dude.

I listened to it on a long bike ride, and it literally ruined my night.  What a horrible, delusional person he is.

I gotta say, after the 'bombshell' 2/3 of the way through (his incarceration, or rather how he got there) his misogyny made sense.  He literally hates women.  I am thankful I've never met anyone like that in person. 

Maron's 'schtick' is wearing as well.   

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on August 05, 2010, 07:26:23 AM
I wasn't exactly sure who Patrice O'Neal was & I've been meaning to check - but the more responses I read over here, the less likely it is that I'm going to do that.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Chris L on August 05, 2010, 08:20:33 AM
I listened to the Patrice O'Neal interview and am literally more traumatized than any currently living war veteran.  It took me 6 hours to type this, I'm shaking so bad.  I can only conclude from the fact that all of you aren't equally as damaged that you're all creepy misogynists. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on August 05, 2010, 08:44:22 AM

I gotta say, after the 'bombshell' 2/3 of the way through (his incarceration, or rather how he got there) his misogyny made sense.  He literally hates women.  I am thankful I've never met anyone like that in person. 


I'd call it more of a fear of women, but I guess it boils down to the same thing either way. He seems to believe that women are on some level all out to entrap him and mess with his mind (and by extension that's how all women act with all men). The statutory rape charge (if you take his story at face value) must be behind some of that but I'd bet the attitude goes to something a lot deeper.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on August 05, 2010, 09:15:57 AM
I listened to the Patrice O'Neal interview and am literally more traumatized than any currently living war veteran.  It took me 6 hours to type this, I'm shaking so bad.  I can only conclude from the fact that all of you aren't equally as damaged that you're all creepy misogynists.

I can only conclude, from this post, that you hate women.  Cock-man-oppressor. 

Totally fine being creeped out and disgusted by P. Oneal, and totally fine with hyperbole. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on August 05, 2010, 12:24:55 PM
Maron's 'schtick' is wearing as well.

anti-semite.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on August 05, 2010, 01:09:21 PM
I came very close to seeing Patrice O'Neal this summer at the comedy festival. I didn't know anything about him, but his show was recommended to me, and so I got some tickets. Turns out he wasn't let into the country, so I exchanged my tickets for Kim Noble's show "Kim Noble Will Die."

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Kim Noble's show was more disturbing than O'Neal's show would have been. Some of the most harrowing "comedy" I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: erechoveraker on August 13, 2010, 05:13:58 PM
I just listened to the Dane Cook interview today. He came across as a nice enough guy to me. At no point did he say anything funny, but I'm more inclined to believe his version of his "joke stealing" accusations than I am Mencia's. I don't know if he seemed bitter and angry. I thought he just seemed a little overly defensive and was really on guard in case Maron really decided to go at him. I think he's probably got some mental problems, but I also think anyone who reaches his level of success has to be a little bit nuts.

Cook came across really well in the interview I thought. I keep getting the impression about Maron though from listening to this episode, and the Birbigs one, that Maron is or comes across as a major, jealous, bitter dick irl. The kind of guy who is mad he isn't more famous than so and so. It's also telling to me that, given all these comedians who he has known for years and years (20 in a few cases), admitted by both sides that sitting down and talking on the podcast is the most they've ever talked at all. I'm not under the illusion that all comedians hang out in some magic green room and share their most intimate moments together, but Maron doesn't seem to have many close friends in the business either. Actual friends. Something he gets on Cook about for why people, in the industry at least, don't like him.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ErnieWV on August 13, 2010, 08:14:50 PM
Marc speaks to a wide variety of comics and although I don't find his podcast as engaging or entertaining as Jimmy Dore's I have learned a lot from it. I think it's telling that he was very close to Sam Kinison. I think he was very heavily influenced by Kinison and is on some level trying to overcome that influence by quitting drugs and making a seemingly conscious effort to be more tolerant.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: waltkellysghost on August 13, 2010, 08:49:31 PM
I'm sure a lot of complaints about Maron are totally merited, but you gotta admit that he is getting pretty good at this podcast thing.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on August 13, 2010, 08:51:38 PM
He's a great interviewer, in the podcast arena probably only second to Jesse Thorn, who I joke about, but have total respect for his talent.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: not that clay on August 13, 2010, 09:03:52 PM
I listened to the Patrice O'Neal interview and am literally more traumatized than any currently living war veteran.  It took me 6 hours to type this, I'm shaking so bad.  I can only conclude from the fact that all of you aren't equally as damaged that you're all creepy misogynists.

Alright, I'm curious enough to want to know what the story is but not so curious as to get myself all worked up. What's the short version? Patrice O'Neal, dogfighter? Rapist? Antisemite?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on August 13, 2010, 09:34:08 PM
I listened to the Patrice O'Neal interview and am literally more traumatized than any currently living war veteran.  It took me 6 hours to type this, I'm shaking so bad.  I can only conclude from the fact that all of you aren't equally as damaged that you're all creepy misogynists.

Alright, I'm curious enough to want to know what the story is but not so curious as to get myself all worked up. What's the short version? Patrice O'Neal, dogfighter? (Statutory) Rapist? Antisemite?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on August 13, 2010, 09:34:20 PM
I listened to the Patrice O'Neal interview and am literally more traumatized than any currently living war veteran.  It took me 6 hours to type this, I'm shaking so bad.  I can only conclude from the fact that all of you aren't equally as damaged that you're all creepy misogynists.

Alright, I'm curious enough to want to know what the story is but not so curious as to get myself all worked up. What's the short version? Patrice O'Neal, dogfighter? Rapist? Antisemite?

Possibly B
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on August 13, 2010, 09:47:48 PM
I keep getting the impression about Maron though from listening to this episode, and the Birbigs one, that Maron is or comes across as a major, jealous, bitter dick irl.

I think calling it an "impression" may be understating it since he pretty much admits to being this way every time he interviews someone he was a jerk to (pretty much every comedian he's interviewed for the podcast).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: erechoveraker on August 13, 2010, 09:55:34 PM
I think calling it an "impression" may be understating it since he pretty much admits to being this way every time he interviews someone he was a jerk to (pretty much every comedian he's interviewed for the podcast).

Yeah, totally. I think Maron thinks he has changed, or gotten better though. Or doesn't still exude that. Whatever. Seems when listening to almost any interview in the last few months though, that's not the case from anyone else's perspective.

Why is the topic of this guy and his show so interesting to me the last few weeks?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on August 13, 2010, 10:37:05 PM

Why is the topic of this guy and his show so interesting to me the last few weeks?

Also, interesting how this thread has persevered and morphed for -- what, weeks, months?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: CaptKarl on September 16, 2010, 12:26:54 PM
WTF w/ Jesse Thorne today has some interesting FOT talk. Backhanded compliments or complimentary diss depending on your perspective. Definitely would set up an interesting Maron guest spot.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on September 16, 2010, 07:25:41 PM
FOT talk? Can you give us the gist (jist) of it? I am about 15 episodes behind Mort's show.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: CaptKarl on September 16, 2010, 08:23:32 PM
Dave, I will see if I can out of context summarize the conversation so that The Best Show reference makes sense.

Of course it Mort Marons so their is the ever-present "this always has to circle back to me" current running through his conversations. Jesse Thorn and Maron were discussing the proliferation yet de-centralization of geek culture, and how neither of them feel at home with or self-identify as geeks, though they would classify themselves more closely with geeks than jocks. At 47 you would think you would have made peace with your station socially, but that is neither here nor there.

Maron says that he feels more pressure and judgement these days from the geek culture camps that have formed because of the internet, and to be specific he called out (not by proper name) FOT's as the camp that have given him "the most shit". It seemed almost as if he had been reading the forum posts about him, and that was the criticism he was referring to. He actually said that it kind of hurt his feelings, and that he would like to have overlap with Tom's audience, but he felt that some of Scharpling fans were part of some super geek, pseudo-intelligentsia.  Thorn then postulated that the deep commitment that fans of The Best Show have in the program can create a blind spot in some fan's eyes, and the dick's that are Best Show fans are quick to "give shit" for no reason. Both mentioned that they are realy Tom's friends and think it is silly that they would catch guff from the Best Show crowd, as they both like the show. Maron made it clear that he was kind of jealous of the FOT fervor.

Honestly, they were both being complimentary to both Tom and the Show. Marc wasn't being confrontational or condescending. I think he was just asking why he would be catching shit, from what perceived to be somehow an organized effort by fans of something that he himself likes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on September 16, 2010, 11:41:34 PM
Thanks Capt,

I have to admit, I hate it when not every single person likes me, too.

dfk
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on September 17, 2010, 02:57:29 PM
Capt - when I heard him say that, I tried to remember whether anyone had said anything on the show. All I could remember was Tom complimenting him and awful lot, but, you're right - this thread must have been what let to that exchange.

Way to go, jerks!

(I don't think you're jerks)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on September 17, 2010, 03:52:47 PM
Well, keep in mind that even when Tom compliments him he refers to his "toilet-mouth show I can't say on the air."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on September 17, 2010, 05:11:32 PM
Well, keep in mind that even when Tom compliments him he refers to his "toilet-mouth show I can't say on the air."

I was just about to point out that it was a joke and Maron's a comic, and I stopped myself when I thought of the joke that Jad Abrumrad made that offended him at MaxFunCon...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on September 18, 2010, 01:08:37 AM
Well, keep in mind that even when Tom compliments him he refers to his "toilet-mouth show I can't say on the air."

I was just about to point out that it was a joke and Maron's a comic, and I stopped myself when I thought of the joke that Jad Abrumrad made that offended him at MaxFunCon...

What joke was that?

Man, now I gotta start catching up on my WTF's. I'm about 8 behind now.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on September 18, 2010, 08:05:44 AM
Well, keep in mind that even when Tom compliments him he refers to his "toilet-mouth show I can't say on the air."

I was just about to point out that it was a joke and Maron's a comic, and I stopped myself when I thought of the joke that Jad Abrumrad made that offended him at MaxFunCon...

What joke was that?

Man, now I gotta start catching up on my WTF's. I'm about 8 behind now.

When asked his opinion of Maron, the guy said something like "Seems like a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on September 18, 2010, 08:07:22 AM
Well, keep in mind that even when Tom compliments him he refers to his "toilet-mouth show I can't say on the air."

This is true, but Maron's very explicit that he was insulted by fans of the show, not by Tom. He went out of his way to say that he likes both Tom and the show.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on September 18, 2010, 10:38:57 AM
He's a great interviewer, in the podcast arena probably only second to Jesse Thorn, who I joke about, but have total respect for his talent.

He certainly can be a great interviewer. His interview with the tragically unfunny Mencia was great as was the follow-up. His interview with Robin Williams revealed things we never see from Mork. But I thought his interview with Ben Stiller could have been improved by including the pre-interview segment in which Maron unzipped Stiller's fly with his teeth. Such butt-kissing is the stuff of legend...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on September 18, 2010, 01:45:47 PM
The recent Tom Lennon interview was great (though I may be biased as a fan of THE STATE) and the Judd Apatow 2 parter was also good, especially part 1 with tapes of old interviews Judd did with Leno, Gary Shandling and Jerry Seinfeld.

I hope this forum isn't the cause of Maron's beef with fans of the Best Show because this forum is only a tiny percentage of Best Show fans and the people who posted negative comments about Maron are an even smaller fraction than that. His problem is literally with fewer than five people.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on September 18, 2010, 02:58:09 PM
Well, if you're reading this, Marc, I just wanna say I saw you at Union Hall and you were great!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on September 18, 2010, 04:49:10 PM
Well, keep in mind that even when Tom compliments him he refers to his "toilet-mouth show I can't say on the air."

I was just about to point out that it was a joke and Maron's a comic, and I stopped myself when I thought of the joke that Jad Abrumrad made that offended him at MaxFunCon...
What joke was that?

He told him something to the effect that Maron's head was a nice place to live, but that he wouldn't want to live there... Which Jesse pointed out is pretty much the premise of Maron's whole persona...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on September 18, 2010, 11:39:30 PM
Mark, If I could get your cell phone number, I would tell you person to person that I think you are terrific. But I won't be able to do that until I have your number.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: David on September 19, 2010, 12:04:02 AM
Mark, If I could get your cell phone number, I would tell you person to person that I think you are terrific. But I won't be able to do that until I have your number.

Second. It's a testament to the show that I don't have to like the guest in order to like an episode. Or have heard of a guest. And the monologues are great too. Now post your phone number so we can start thanking you personally.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on September 19, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
My initial thought was that Maron's description of "weird, highbrow condescension" was probably a pretty good 3-word summation of the FOT reaction to his show. (It's also an accurate description of the way I try to approach most things in life!)

But then I went  back and looked at this 12-page thread, and it's 99% praise and enthusiasm for the show. It seemed like he may just have been jealous of the rabid loyalty of Best Show fans, which is reasonable enough.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on September 19, 2010, 02:49:46 PM
There were a couple of people along the way in this thread who I think were more interested in pointing out our shortcomings for liking Marc Maron's work than in trashing Maron himself. That was some pretty definite condescension happening. Which whatever really.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on September 20, 2010, 12:46:34 AM
Oh. My. Goodness.

http://gawker.com/5642206/comedian-live+tweets-sitting-next-to-ken-mehlman-on-a-plane-exposes-nipple (http://gawker.com/5642206/comedian-live+tweets-sitting-next-to-ken-mehlman-on-a-plane-exposes-nipple)

Wait ... you can live tweet from an airplane? I'm totally out of touch with the 21st century.

So actually, maybe you should skip that gawker post and just read the actual sequence of events at: http://twitter.com/marcmaron (http://twitter.com/marcmaron) ... start at the post "On plane. Upgraded. Sitting next to former GOP party leader Ken Mehlman. This is gonna be good" (http://twitter.com/marcmaron/status/24953493424) ... and scroll up from there.

I'd say that Maron's reaction to this twist of fate was kinda juvenile and kinda brilliant. Pretty much what you'd expect.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: waltkellysghost on September 20, 2010, 02:28:09 AM
The nipple pic is going to be infamous. I admit I laughed uncontrollably when I opened it up.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: CaptKarl on September 20, 2010, 09:12:30 AM
The nip slip is brilliant. Man the sun really is shining out Maron's nether regions these days. There really needs to be a Scharpling v. Maron meetup whether it be WTF or Best Show, I think either way works.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: orator on September 20, 2010, 06:39:35 PM
Hey, Marc, you probably aren't reading this, but if you are, I enjoy your podcast and you seem like a good dude.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on September 22, 2010, 05:25:51 PM
He's a great interviewer, in the podcast arena probably only second to Jesse Thorn, who I joke about, but have total respect for his talent.

Jesse Thorpe?! I really like the kid, but he is way too NPR and can't stand his phony laughs during those promo "interstitials," and the fact that he uses the word interstitial at all.

Jesse gets some great guests, and does his homework but there is no comparison (in my dumb opinion) between Marc and Jesse. Marc may be a jerk or sometimes possess faults that everyone here has chimed in on, but at least he seems real. Almost too much so.

(however, that said, given your very polite telephone habits, dave from knoxville, I can see how you might prefer the genteel Jesse)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rhymes with Don Draper on September 22, 2010, 06:40:15 PM
Jesse Thorne once disrespected me on his Jordan Jesse Go! podcast and I've had mixed-feelings about the guy ever since then.  He's an intelligent fellow and a good interviewer, but he also seems like an arch, ironic personality who can't wipe the smirk out of his voice.  Maybe he can't get fully break into Public Radio because Program Directors are worried that older listeners will be put off by him for those reasons. 

There---  VITRIOL DISPERSED!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on September 22, 2010, 07:24:52 PM
Tom post-quitting TBSOWFMU would be one fantastic interview. ;)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Keith Whitener on September 22, 2010, 07:34:38 PM
<3 Morton
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rhymes with Don Draper on September 22, 2010, 08:03:37 PM
He's an intelligent fellow and a good interviewer, but he also seems like an arch, ironic personality who can't wipe the smirk out of his voice.

There---  VITRIOL DISPERSED!

Yeah, I don't get his 'New Sincerity' thing when, despite the name he seems to rely on irony just as much as any of the other young public radio personalities.

I think Thorn's "New Sincerity" is just a bluff.  If someone wants to be sincere then just be sincere.  Don't hide it behind a post Post-Modern concept that collapses in on itself.

Ira Glass is Ira Glass because he's genuine.  Jesse Thorn is Jesse Thorn because he's approximately but ironically genuine.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on September 22, 2010, 09:36:06 PM
He's an intelligent fellow and a good interviewer, but he also seems like an arch, ironic personality who can't wipe the smirk out of his voice.

There---  VITRIOL DISPERSED!

Yeah, I don't get his 'New Sincerity' thing when, despite the name he seems to rely on irony just as much as any of the other young public radio personalities.

I would guess "New Sincerity" is intended ironically.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Senator Gothman (D-OR) on September 22, 2010, 10:45:16 PM
Jesse Thorne ... an intelligent fellow and a good interviewer, but he also seems like an arch, ironic personality who can't wipe the smirk out of his voice....


THANK you.  /applause
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on September 24, 2010, 12:11:07 PM
Jesse Thorne ... an intelligent fellow and a good interviewer, but he also seems like an arch, ironic personality who can't wipe the smirk out of his voice....


THANK you.  /applause

The few times I've interacted with Jesse he seemed to be 100% genuine and an overall sweet guy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rhymes with Don Draper on September 24, 2010, 08:49:49 PM
 
Jesse Thorne ... an intelligent fellow and a good interviewer, but he also seems like an arch, ironic personality who can't wipe the smirk out of his voice....


THANK you.  /applause

The few times I've interacted with Jesse he seemed to be 100% genuine and an overall sweet guy.

Who knows--  if I met Thorne in-person he could be a nice guy and I could have a change of heart, but what I wrote is the impression that I get of him.

Still--  if he reads this he can take comfort in the fact that he has a more interesting career than I do.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on September 26, 2010, 12:56:20 AM
Jesse Thorne once disrespected me on his Jordan Jesse Go! podcast

Deats!

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rhymes with Don Draper on September 26, 2010, 04:21:31 AM
Jesse Thorne once disrespected me on his Jordan Jesse Go! podcast

Deats!



It's a complicated story that doesn't add up to much.  I'll just say that JT rubbed me the wrong way when he responded to my feedback and, having unleashed my inner Margaret Dumont, it changed my opinion of him.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on September 26, 2010, 01:38:10 PM
Jesse Thorne once disrespected me on his Jordan Jesse Go! podcast

Deats!



It's a complicated story that doesn't add up to much.  I'll just say that JT rubbed me the wrong way when he responded to my feedback and, having unleashed my inner Margaret Dumont, it changed my opinion of him.

Look, I don't think he walks on water. Specifically, Chris Douchewick, I mean Hardwick was on JJG once and talked about seeing a film in Memphis with his dad. He was disgusted by the audience response to it, bur his reason was along the lines of Southerners not being smart enough as a group to understand it. Now, if that's a joke, I am OK, but it wasn't, he was snide and condescending, and Jesse didn't call him on it. That really pissed me off.

But it doesn't undo my opinion that when he does an interview, he's extremely well prepared, and he asks questions that most interviewers would not. He does the work and it shows.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Jason on September 26, 2010, 02:11:58 PM
Podcast Beef.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Sploops on September 26, 2010, 02:57:59 PM

 Specifically, Chris Douchewick, I mean Hardwick was on JJG once and talked about seeing a film in Memphis with his dad. He was disgusted by the audience response to it, bur his reason was along the lines of Southerners not being smart enough as a group to understand it. Now, if that's a joke, I am OK, but it wasn't, he was snide and condescending, and Jesse didn't call him on it. That really pissed me off.

I believe Chris Douchewick is from Tennessee, therefore he's allowed to talk shit about Memphis filmgoers. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Keith Whitener on September 26, 2010, 02:59:42 PM
<3 Douchewick. I go out of my way to download shows he's on even if they're shows I don't normally listen to. I appreciate his jocular and erudite perspective.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: CaptKarl on September 27, 2010, 09:16:09 AM

 Specifically, Chris Douchewick, I mean Hardwick was on JJG once and talked about seeing a film in Memphis with his dad. He was disgusted by the audience response to it, bur his reason was along the lines of Southerners not being smart enough as a group to understand it. Now, if that's a joke, I am OK, but it wasn't, he was snide and condescending, and Jesse didn't call him on it. That really pissed me off.

I believe Chris Douchewick is from Tennessee, therefore he's allowed to talk shit about Memphis filmgoers.
Hardwick's people are from the south, but he moved away from TN when he was 13. I am with Dave on this one, because I got the same feeling from his remarks on JJG. I don't know that people outside of the south realize how flippantly offensive the baseline characterization of southern people is, and when it is folks that call NY or LA home it compounds the insult by about 5X.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on September 27, 2010, 09:45:03 AM

 Specifically, Chris Douchewick, I mean Hardwick was on JJG once and talked about seeing a film in Memphis with his dad. He was disgusted by the audience response to it, bur his reason was along the lines of Southerners not being smart enough as a group to understand it. Now, if that's a joke, I am OK, but it wasn't, he was snide and condescending, and Jesse didn't call him on it. That really pissed me off.

I believe Chris Douchewick is from Tennessee, therefore he's allowed to talk shit about Memphis filmgoers.
Hardwick's people are from the south, but he moved away from TN when he was 13. I am with Dave on this one, because I got the same feeling from his remarks on JJG. I don't know that people outside of the south realize how flippantly offensive the baseline characterization of southern people is, and when it is folks that call NY or LA home it compounds the insult by about 5X.

Greg Proops is prone to a similar thing in his standup, but when I've heard him interviewed, he goes out of his way to point out that stupidity is everywhere and that singling out the South is both the easy way out and inaccurate.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on September 27, 2010, 12:00:17 PM

 Specifically, Chris Douchewick, I mean Hardwick was on JJG once and talked about seeing a film in Memphis with his dad. He was disgusted by the audience response to it, bur his reason was along the lines of Southerners not being smart enough as a group to understand it. Now, if that's a joke, I am OK, but it wasn't, he was snide and condescending, and Jesse didn't call him on it. That really pissed me off.

I believe Chris Douchewick is from Tennessee, therefore he's allowed to talk shit about Memphis filmgoers.
Hardwick's people are from the south, but he moved away from TN when he was 13. I am with Dave on this one, because I got the same feeling from his remarks on JJG. I don't know that people outside of the south realize how flippantly offensive the baseline characterization of southern people is, and when it is folks that call NY or LA home it compounds the insult by about 5X.

Funny that Douchewick trashes the South but New Yorker Todd Barry has that great bit about '...isn't that what you expected Alabama was like, you fake liberal f****?'
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on September 27, 2010, 12:35:13 PM

Funny that Douchewick trashes the South but New Yorker Todd Barry has that great bit about '...isn't that what you expected Alabama was like, you fake liberal f****?'

Yes! I just got this album and I loved that bit. I travel to the South a lot, and it's no more or less stupid than anywhere else.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rhymes with Don Draper on September 27, 2010, 03:30:41 PM
He's not a big name, but comedian Kevin O'Shea has a funny joke about prejudices towards the South:  "I have to say, one part of the country that I do not like is the South (although I've never been there or know anyone who's from there)."

More so than the East Coast it seems that people from the West Coast have this monolithic understanding of what Southern culture is and what people from the South are like.  It's very much rooted in this satisfied, liberal sense-of-self that many Californians have, as well as the fact that most people outside of the South gain most of their knowledge of the area through Social Studies in school (which tends to focus on the history of Slavery and racism in the region.)  And I state this as someone who's born and raised in California, still lives there and considers himself liberal in his political viewpoint.

But as someone who has good friends from the South and as someone who's been there, the place is much more nuanced and complex than outsiders give it credit for, and it peeves me whenever I hear people who obviously have no real knowledge of the place denigrate it.  (For instance:  one time I was in a Borders inadvertently eavesdropping on two people and when one of them said "I'm moving to Texas", the other one said "why would you ever want to live there?!")  Sure, racist and/or conservative White Trash are in the South, but if travel 25-50 miles inland from San Francisco you'll encounter plenty of racist and/or conservative White Trash there too.  People are people, good or bad, and they live almost everywhere.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on September 27, 2010, 04:22:07 PM
Quote
...most people outside of the South gain most of their knowledge of the area through Social Studies in school (which tends to focus on the history of Slavery and racism in the region.)

I really doubt that this is more than a small factor.  You don't have to go back to your grade school days to be reminded every day of the legacy of racism in the South, at least if you're news-conscious.  One of the two great American political parties has been speaking in racist dog-whistles (or just plain racist language) since 1964, and which part of the country has it helped them the most consistently in?  I wish the good people of the South well, and nobody likes being stereotyped, but I gotta say I don't think the majority of Southern voters do the best PR for their region.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on September 27, 2010, 04:30:41 PM
One of the two great American political parties has been speaking in racist dog-whistles (or just plain racist language)

Racist dog whistles ... I like that!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on September 27, 2010, 04:36:09 PM
(it's a pretty common political-blog idiom, but thanks.)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on September 27, 2010, 04:52:30 PM
(it's a pretty common political-blog idiom, but thanks.)

oh, dang! Can you tell I never read political blogs?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: TacoSmith on September 27, 2010, 05:24:38 PM
Is this (http://niccageaseveryone.blogspot.com/) considered a political blog?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: YoungAmerican on September 29, 2010, 12:10:57 AM
Hey!  It's me, Jesse Thorn.  Been a quite while since I've posted here, but somebody sent me the link.

I just want to emphasize that I really love Tom and the Best Show... Tom has always been very kind to me over the course of the six or seven years I've now known him.  He just did me a big personal and professional favor like a week ago.  He's the greatest.  I've been proud to have him on my show like two or three times now, and he has an open invitation to come on my other show whenever he can.  And I love The Best Show, too.  I begged Tom to podcast it for like a year so it would be easier for me to listen to it.

Also: I think when me and Marc were talking about a few Best Show fans being weirdly mean, our point was the weird way passionate advocacy for something sometimes turns into a rejection of things that aren't the thing you're being a passionate advocate for.  For both of us, we've really only had trouble with a couple people, and we most certainly don't think that's indicative of the larger TBS audience at all.  Maybe we were clear about that... hopefully we were.  Sometimes in that kind of casual conversation you're not as clear as you could be.

I just don't want anyone to think I feel persecuted by Best Show fans.  I'm a big fan myself and so are many friends of mine and listeners to my shows and so on and so forth.  As a rule, I think Best Show listeners are really great - they're the kind of people who really get behind something they believe in, which is a very, very admirable quality.  And they have great taste.

As for me being smarmy or pretentious or what-have-you... I dunno.  It seems like some people just hear my voice, or hear the format of The Sound of Young America, and make that assumption.  I hear that about Ira, too... and Terry Gross.  Folks who couldn't be further from pretentious or smarmy, people whose lives are built around their humble curiosity about others (and also folks who are heroes of mine, professionally).  I guess that sometimes that's hard to take at face value, and people decide that it's a trick, and the person's actually being arch or pretentious.  I've sort of built my career around the opposite, so I don't know what else to do about it besides to ask folks to trust me :).

So, in summary... I love the Best Show, I love Tom, I love Friends of Tom and am a Friend of Tom, and when you assume you make an ass out of u and me.

Friends?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: David on September 29, 2010, 04:08:23 AM
Gee wiz, of course we're still friends. Does this mean you're still coming to my nephew's Bar Mitzvah in Winnipeg? I kid. Seriously, I love the show and every FOT/cool person that I know feels the same way.

Hey!  It's me, Jesse Thorn.  Been a quite while since I've posted here, but somebody sent me the link.

I just want to emphasize that I really love Tom and the Best Show... Tom has always been very kind to me over the course of the six or seven years I've now known him.  He just did me a big personal and professional favor like a week ago.  He's the greatest.  I've been proud to have him on my show like two or three times now, and he has an open invitation to come on my other show whenever he can.  And I love The Best Show, too.  I begged Tom to podcast it for like a year so it would be easier for me to listen to it.

Also: I think when me and Marc were talking about a few Best Show fans being weirdly mean, our point was the weird way passionate advocacy for something sometimes turns into a rejection of things that aren't the thing you're being a passionate advocate for.  For both of us, we've really only had trouble with a couple people, and we most certainly don't think that's indicative of the larger TBS audience at all.  Maybe we were clear about that... hopefully we were.  Sometimes in that kind of casual conversation you're not as clear as you could be.

I just don't want anyone to think I feel persecuted by Best Show fans.  I'm a big fan myself and so are many friends of mine and listeners to my shows and so on and so forth.  As a rule, I think Best Show listeners are really great - they're the kind of people who really get behind something they believe in, which is a very, very admirable quality.  And they have great taste.

As for me being smarmy or pretentious or what-have-you... I dunno.  It seems like some people just hear my voice, or hear the format of The Sound of Young America, and make that assumption.  I hear that about Ira, too... and Terry Gross.  Folks who couldn't be further from pretentious or smarmy, people whose lives are built around their humble curiosity about others (and also folks who are heroes of mine, professionally).  I guess that sometimes that's hard to take at face value, and people decide that it's a trick, and the person's actually being arch or pretentious.  I've sort of built my career around the opposite, so I don't know what else to do about it besides to ask folks to trust me :).

So, in summary... I love the Best Show, I love Tom, I love Friends of Tom and am a Friend of Tom, and when you assume you make an ass out of u and me.

Friends?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on September 29, 2010, 05:03:48 AM
Hey!  It's me, Jesse Thorn.  Been a quite while since I've posted here, but somebody sent me the link.
.....
Friends?

Hi Jesse,

This comment is less about comedy nerds and the cliques of different fan bases, who likes whom more, and more about how the podcast audience at large feel - at least the way I feel.

As far as I'm concerned we can all be friends and think we always have been. I think the reason podcast listeners (or addicts in my case) feel that they have some sort of free for all license to judge, mock or celebrate different podcasters is that it is such an intimate, personal medium.

As devout listeners we feel (correctly or not) like an important part of the podcast "process." Podcasts, of both the good and bad varieties is a very private form of media. I've yet to really turn anyone on to any podcast ever, by just sitting someone down and saying "here, you gotta listen to this, erm... 40 minute podcast, you're really gonna enjoy it."

It just doesn't work that way. Either one makes the discovery and continues listening or it just doesn't happen.

Regardless of what podcast we're listening to, they're inside our ear canals and deep in our minds as we do the dishes, walk the dog and sit on the bus. Sometimes podcasts lull us to sleep, chat to us while we are in the shower -- and I've been known to listen whilst sitting on what Archie Bunker called the "throne." You're with us "through it all," so to speak.

What I'm saying is that the podcast format is so very intimate, listeners quickly (and erroneously) begin to think we are getting to know you somehow. Because it seems sometimes you are speaking directly to us. This is a different medium than radio, because we can start and stop you as we wish, we can skip through the parts that don't interest us and we can go back in time and listen to earlier "episodes."

And, I imagine, as listeners we think our ideas are as important as the ones who are "speaking into microphones." Of course they are slightly important, but whether you're interested in them is another story.

That being said, I thought WTF interview with you was great, and I totally understood where you were coming from. I do not consider myself a comedy nerd at all. Anything I've learned about modern comedy is merely through osmosis from the magical (and coincidental, in my case) trifecta of WTF, TBSWMU and TSOYA...

Keep up the good (no, great) work -- all of you -- and stop worrying.

If you all stopped podcasting, I wouldn't know what to do with my own thoughts!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: CaptKarl on September 29, 2010, 09:08:16 AM
So, in summary... I love the Best Show, I love Tom, I love Friends of Tom and am a Friend of Tom, and when you assume you make an ass out of u and me.

Friends?

Your a class act Jesse Thorn. A class act. I believe my Alden Indys are a testament to the trust that I put in your discerning tastes. I am going to go out on a limb and say that by statistical majority FOTs are hip to The Sound and WTF'ers. I think a fractional minority of fans live in Newbridge 24/7 rather than 3 hours on Tuesday night.

Your sweet to have set the record straight, but it didn't behoove you, which for me is a reflection of your authenticity. As this is a future guests thread, has a Jesse Thorn ever considered an in studio guest appearance of The Best Show?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mike_b on September 29, 2010, 10:27:54 AM
Dear Jesse-

I really want someone in LA to have a sit-down with David Yow from the Jesus Lizard/Qui/Scratch Acid/small bit parts in movies.  I bet he has awesome stories.  As long as you're here I thought I'd bother you in a nice way.

Keep up the good work!

-Mike
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on September 29, 2010, 03:37:52 PM
Hey!  It's me, Jesse Thorn.  Been a quite while since I've posted here, but somebody sent me the link.

I just want to emphasize that I really love Tom and the Best Show... Tom has always been very kind to me over the course of the six or seven years I've now known him.  He just did me a big personal and professional favor like a week ago.  He's the greatest.  I've been proud to have him on my show like two or three times now, and he has an open invitation to come on my other show whenever he can.  And I love The Best Show, too.  I begged Tom to podcast it for like a year so it would be easier for me to listen to it.

Also: I think when me and Marc were talking about a few Best Show fans being weirdly mean, our point was the weird way passionate advocacy for something sometimes turns into a rejection of things that aren't the thing you're being a passionate advocate for.  For both of us, we've really only had trouble with a couple people, and we most certainly don't think that's indicative of the larger TBS audience at all.  Maybe we were clear about that... hopefully we were.  Sometimes in that kind of casual conversation you're not as clear as you could be.

I just don't want anyone to think I feel persecuted by Best Show fans.  I'm a big fan myself and so are many friends of mine and listeners to my shows and so on and so forth.  As a rule, I think Best Show listeners are really great - they're the kind of people who really get behind something they believe in, which is a very, very admirable quality.  And they have great taste.

As for me being smarmy or pretentious or what-have-you... I dunno.  It seems like some people just hear my voice, or hear the format of The Sound of Young America, and make that assumption.  I hear that about Ira, too... and Terry Gross.  Folks who couldn't be further from pretentious or smarmy, people whose lives are built around their humble curiosity about others (and also folks who are heroes of mine, professionally).  I guess that sometimes that's hard to take at face value, and people decide that it's a trick, and the person's actually being arch or pretentious.  I've sort of built my career around the opposite, so I don't know what else to do about it besides to ask folks to trust me :).

So, in summary... I love the Best Show, I love Tom, I love Friends of Tom and am a Friend of Tom, and when you assume you make an ass out of u and me.

Friends?

Just so we're clear on this, Jesse, there is no "e" in your last name?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: YoungAmerican on September 29, 2010, 07:32:54 PM
Your sweet to have set the record straight, but it didn't behoove you, which for me is a reflection of your authenticity. As this is a future guests thread, has a Jesse Thorn ever considered an in studio guest appearance of The Best Show?

That's Tom's call, not mine.  I'm not often in New York for more than a couple days for financial reasons, and when I am it's unusual for it to be on a Tuesday, since it's usually to do a show or something and that's often on a Thursday or Friday.  It would be an honor, of course.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on September 29, 2010, 08:00:44 PM
You don't get vacation time?

Priorities.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on September 29, 2010, 09:23:45 PM
You could always do a phoner.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on September 30, 2010, 06:53:52 AM
You could always do a phoner.

Yeah, Sanjyra.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on September 30, 2010, 12:53:19 PM

Yeah, Sanjyra.


It's SanJAYA ... SHOW SOME RESPECT!!

(http://mgi.blogsome.com/wp-admin/images/sanjaya-malakar.jpg)


(... or don't).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on October 01, 2010, 04:28:32 PM

 Specifically, Chris Douchewick, I mean Hardwick was on JJG once and talked about seeing a film in Memphis with his dad. He was disgusted by the audience response to it, bur his reason was along the lines of Southerners not being smart enough as a group to understand it. Now, if that's a joke, I am OK, but it wasn't, he was snide and condescending, and Jesse didn't call him on it. That really pissed me off.

I believe Chris Douchewick is from Tennessee, therefore he's allowed to talk shit about Memphis filmgoers.
Hardwick's people are from the south, but he moved away from TN when he was 13. I am with Dave on this one, because I got the same feeling from his remarks on JJG. I don't know that people outside of the south realize how flippantly offensive the baseline characterization of southern people is, and when it is folks that call NY or LA home it compounds the insult by about 5X.

I agree with Dave about how he came off but I also think that he's a smart open-minded dude that would feel bad and dumb if he ever read this thread.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 01, 2010, 09:45:36 PM

 Specifically, Chris Douchewick, I mean Hardwick was on JJG once and talked about seeing a film in Memphis with his dad. He was disgusted by the audience response to it, bur his reason was along the lines of Southerners not being smart enough as a group to understand it. Now, if that's a joke, I am OK, but it wasn't, he was snide and condescending, and Jesse didn't call him on it. That really pissed me off.

I believe Chris Douchewick is from Tennessee, therefore he's allowed to talk shit about Memphis filmgoers.
Hardwick's people are from the south, but he moved away from TN when he was 13. I am with Dave on this one, because I got the same feeling from his remarks on JJG. I don't know that people outside of the south realize how flippantly offensive the baseline characterization of southern people is, and when it is folks that call NY or LA home it compounds the insult by about 5X.

I agree with Dave about how he came off but I also think that he's a smart open-minded dude that would feel bad and dumb if he ever read this thread.

If you're sincere about that, I trust your judgement. Chris Hardwick, should you ever read this, I am sorry I brought it up.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on October 01, 2010, 11:05:36 PM

 Specifically, Chris Douchewick, I mean Hardwick was on JJG once and talked about seeing a film in Memphis with his dad. He was disgusted by the audience response to it, bur his reason was along the lines of Southerners not being smart enough as a group to understand it. Now, if that's a joke, I am OK, but it wasn't, he was snide and condescending, and Jesse didn't call him on it. That really pissed me off.

I believe Chris Douchewick is from Tennessee, therefore he's allowed to talk shit about Memphis filmgoers.
Hardwick's people are from the south, but he moved away from TN when he was 13. I am with Dave on this one, because I got the same feeling from his remarks on JJG. I don't know that people outside of the south realize how flippantly offensive the baseline characterization of southern people is, and when it is folks that call NY or LA home it compounds the insult by about 5X.

I agree with Dave about how he came off but I also think that he's a smart open-minded dude that would feel bad and dumb if he ever read this thread.

If you're sincere about that, I trust your judgement. Chris Hardwick, should you ever read this, I am sorry I brought it up.

Yeah, it seems like one of those things that no one has probably called him on and if they did, he might watch it. The few times I've interacted with him he couldn't have been any nicer.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on October 02, 2010, 12:17:26 AM
Dammit, you people are ruining it. He's never going to show up in this thread now.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: David on October 02, 2010, 12:58:51 AM

 Specifically, Chris Douchewick, I mean Hardwick was on JJG once and talked about seeing a film in Memphis with his dad. He was disgusted by the audience response to it, bur his reason was along the lines of Southerners not being smart enough as a group to understand it. Now, if that's a joke, I am OK, but it wasn't, he was snide and condescending, and Jesse didn't call him on it. That really pissed me off.

I believe Chris Douchewick is from Tennessee, therefore he's allowed to talk shit about Memphis filmgoers.
Hardwick's people are from the south, but he moved away from TN when he was 13. I am with Dave on this one, because I got the same feeling from his remarks on JJG. I don't know that people outside of the south realize how flippantly offensive the baseline characterization of southern people is, and when it is folks that call NY or LA home it compounds the insult by about 5X.

I agree with Dave about how he came off but I also think that he's a smart open-minded dude that would feel bad and dumb if he ever read this thread.

If you're sincere about that, I trust your judgement. Chris Hardwick, should you ever read this, I am sorry I brought it up.

Yeah, it seems like one of those things that no one has probably called him on and if they did, he might watch it. The few times I've interacted with him he couldn't have been any nicer.

I concur on that. I've met Chris Hardwick on two separate occasions, and he seems like a genuinely nice and smart guy who, you're right, hasn't been called on that. I know I've said stupid things for no reason that I'd not have said if I had taken a second to think before saying them. If it were a reoccurring thing, I'd be with you, but I don't think he's anti-south.

And if I got mad everytime somebody made fun of New Jersey, I'd have stopped watching How I Met Your Mother a while ago (though their anti-Jersey, anti-vegan bias does make the characters seem extra jerky).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 02, 2010, 11:24:44 PM
Well, I am mostly over this, but feel a compulsion to clarify. It's not that he cracked on the South. Hell, I do that. It's that he was seriously dismissive of Southerners in a laugh-free and entirely condescending way.

Jokes are fine. Stupid over-generalizing comments are pointless and, frankly, dumb. Just ask Rick Sanchez.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mackro on October 03, 2010, 05:14:44 AM
way too late to this thread... but if Chris Hardwick is from Memphis, it was early on his life, because we were in the same graduating class at an L.A. all-boys Catholic high school.

I saw him and Eddie Pepitone open for Patton Oswalt at Bumbershoot a few weeks ago.  I was weirded out by the trotting, cussing Chris Hardwick. I remember him as one of the funniest guys in high school without having to do that type of thing, so.. yeah, it was extremely awkward.

Sorry if I derailed the thread.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on October 07, 2010, 11:03:58 AM
Back on topic...this week's 2-part interview with Louis CK is really exceptional.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: CaptKarl on October 07, 2010, 11:27:23 AM
Back on topic...this week's 2-part interview with Louis CK is really exceptional.
I had just written essentially the same thing and when I went to post it, it showed that you had beat me to the punch. Honestly, Maron is the only person that could have gotten that interview out of Louis.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on October 07, 2010, 01:19:05 PM
I agree. It's really something.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Big Plastic Head on October 07, 2010, 01:50:56 PM
I agree. It's really something.

Yep. Really fantastic conversation.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on October 07, 2010, 11:24:32 PM
Looking forward to the Louis CK. I found his tribute to Greg Giraldo very touching.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on October 09, 2010, 10:28:14 PM
Looking forward to the Louis CK. I found his tribute to Greg Giraldo very touching.

Louis CK himself is really fantastic.  Totally authentic, and a guy that appears to be fully in charge of his craft, top to bottom.  He had a moment, and it was a perfect little story, and it choked me up. 

What was not fantastic was Maron's insistence on inserting his jealousy, resentment, and pettiness into every f'n interview.  He's pulling the "I am copping to this, therefore it's okay to just go with it" card, and it's really revolting. I find it extra stooooopid in light of Louis CK's honesty, even his honesty about his 'failures' in his career. 

I saw Louis CK last week.  2nd show at the Chicago Theater (holds, what, 3500 people--both were sold out), and his new stuff is really great.  Mining similar territory, but really fluid, honest stuff.  I just don't find this honest in Maron's comedy--he also seems to disdain or question comedians who work a lot, or rather have a work ethic.  Absolutely delusional dude, though and through. 

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on October 10, 2010, 08:59:37 AM
Looking forward to the Louis CK. I found his tribute to Greg Giraldo very touching.

Louis CK himself is really fantastic.  Totally authentic, and a guy that appears to be fully in charge of his craft, top to bottom.  He had a moment, and it was a perfect little story, and it choked me up. 

What was not fantastic was Maron's insistence on inserting his jealousy, resentment, and pettiness into every f'n interview.  He's pulling the "I am copping to this, therefore it's okay to just go with it" card, and it's really revolting. I find it extra stooooopid in light of Louis CK's honesty, even his honesty about his 'failures' in his career. 

I saw Louis CK last week.  2nd show at the Chicago Theater (holds, what, 3500 people--both were sold out), and his new stuff is really great.  Mining similar territory, but really fluid, honest stuff.  I just don't find this honest in Maron's comedy--he also seems to disdain or question comedians who work a lot, or rather have a work ethic.  Absolutely delusional dude, though and through.

I'm not trying to change your mind about Maron or argue with you (or even disagree, really), but to say that an interview is great while trying to give absolute zero credit to the interviewer is a bit unfair. Whether or not you like Maron's public character or his work, he deserves a bunch of credit for that interview. I've heard lots of interviews with Louis CK, and he's always candid and honest, but the WTF interview with something else entirely. I don't know if anyone else could've gotten that interview out of him.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 10, 2010, 10:16:28 AM
Looking forward to the Louis CK. I found his tribute to Greg Giraldo very touching.

Louis CK himself is really fantastic.  Totally authentic, and a guy that appears to be fully in charge of his craft, top to bottom.  He had a moment, and it was a perfect little story, and it choked me up. 

What was not fantastic was Maron's insistence on inserting his jealousy, resentment, and pettiness into every f'n interview.  He's pulling the "I am copping to this, therefore it's okay to just go with it" card, and it's really revolting. I find it extra stooooopid in light of Louis CK's honesty, even his honesty about his 'failures' in his career. 

I saw Louis CK last week.  2nd show at the Chicago Theater (holds, what, 3500 people--both were sold out), and his new stuff is really great.  Mining similar territory, but really fluid, honest stuff.  I just don't find this honest in Maron's comedy--he also seems to disdain or question comedians who work a lot, or rather have a work ethic.  Absolutely delusional dude, though and through.

I'm not trying to change your mind about Maron or argue with you (or even disagree, really), but to say that an interview is great while trying to give absolute zero credit to the interviewer is a bit unfair. Whether or not you like Maron's public character or his work, he deserves a bunch of credit for that interview. I've heard lots of interviews with Louis CK, and he's always candid and honest, but the WTF interview with something else entirely. I don't know if anyone else could've gotten that interview out of him.

I am in complete agreement, and not just because masterofsparks could beat me up if I disagreed with him.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on October 10, 2010, 12:31:13 PM
Looking forward to the Louis CK. I found his tribute to Greg Giraldo very touching.

Louis CK himself is really fantastic.  Totally authentic, and a guy that appears to be fully in charge of his craft, top to bottom.  He had a moment, and it was a perfect little story, and it choked me up. 

What was not fantastic was Maron's insistence on inserting his jealousy, resentment, and pettiness into every f'n interview.  He's pulling the "I am copping to this, therefore it's okay to just go with it" card, and it's really revolting. I find it extra stooooopid in light of Louis CK's honesty, even his honesty about his 'failures' in his career. 

I saw Louis CK last week.  2nd show at the Chicago Theater (holds, what, 3500 people--both were sold out), and his new stuff is really great.  Mining similar territory, but really fluid, honest stuff.  I just don't find this honest in Maron's comedy--he also seems to disdain or question comedians who work a lot, or rather have a work ethic.  Absolutely delusional dude, though and through.

I'm not trying to change your mind about Maron or argue with you (or even disagree, really), but to say that an interview is great while trying to give absolute zero credit to the interviewer is a bit unfair. Whether or not you like Maron's public character or his work, he deserves a bunch of credit for that interview. I've heard lots of interviews with Louis CK, and he's always candid and honest, but the WTF interview with something else entirely. I don't know if anyone else could've gotten that interview out of him.

No, no argument from me at all, and an admission of unfairness on my part.  I really do see this  as Maron's m.o.: He's been lucky (or tenacious) to have a built a nearly 30-year career with very little main-stream or even critical success/praise, and this in turn has given him access to a lot of comedians--hence the workshop nature of the show at times.  No one but a friend could have pulled that out of Louis CK, just as no one but Maron could have gotten Mencia to have had such a public meltdown (again, Maron's m.o.--he garners trust, gets you to open up, and he's a respected lifer, so he must be alright, right?). 

I'm saying he obliterates any semblance of good will, sentimentality, or endearment when he acts like a petulant child.  He's seemingly unhappy with what he clearly views as his 'consolation' prize of a very well liked (I never miss an interview of his--never), well-respected, and popular podcast.  Jesse Thorne seems quite pleased with himself on this front, and kudos to him. 

If Maron had a fraction of Thorne's non-invasive attitude during his interviews, he'd literally be the best in the game.  Literally. 

Instead we get a turd sandwich. With Louis CK's interview we get a guy pouring his heart out, simply to be asked if people are 'really like this?', and made to defend his success. 

I'm not even mentioning the broken drum that is his neuroses, basically creepy view of women, or his "shocking" take on race--those things are too obvious to even dissect. 

In spite of this invective, if he charged for this podcast, I would pay for it, as it gets a reaction from me every single time.  I actively look forward to each episode. 

Same way I look forward to eating a jalapeno pepper every morning, right after my cold shower--that way I know the worst part of the day is over. 

But, your point about fairness is exactly right on.  This guys sorta brings out the mean in me. 

YET I CAN'T QUIT HIM....
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SJK on October 10, 2010, 04:09:08 PM
Interesting observations Ike. I enjoy Marc's confessional, inner dialogue let it all hang out style. I have a feeling with Louis CK, there were obviously some personal issues being sorted out. I think a few years ago Maron was enjoying a period of success and notoriety with Air America and ignoring calls from Louis CK because of it, I'm speculating. Now Louis's 'star' is rising so to speak, and he is genuinely too busy to maintain a friendship that has lost it's moorings. I did detect some venom in the comment Marc made after signing off in part two of that interview, regarding his attempts to email Louis without response(which Louis said would happen), and then a follow up phone call without much to say. 'Time changes locks on a lot of doors', thank you Ron Hawkins. I think Marc is genuinely insecure and neurotic, he does admit as much...he needs to calm the f*** down and be ok with himself and his flaws. I guess that is what I like the most, no pre-tense of perfection...the warts and all approach helps me like him. He seems to be haemorrhaging on the air one minute and then the next, when focused on the interview, really interesting conversations occur. I have found the interviews in general to be compelling...except that one guy whose contempt/hatred for women set off a few FOT in this thread...Patrice O'Neal, I tried to listen too it, never got through the whole thing. I hope you have recovered since then Chris L!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on October 10, 2010, 04:58:52 PM
Looking forward to the Louis CK. I found his tribute to Greg Giraldo very touching.

Louis CK himself is really fantastic.  Totally authentic, and a guy that appears to be fully in charge of his craft, top to bottom.  He had a moment, and it was a perfect little story, and it choked me up. 

What was not fantastic was Maron's insistence on inserting his jealousy, resentment, and pettiness into every f'n interview.  He's pulling the "I am copping to this, therefore it's okay to just go with it" card, and it's really revolting. I find it extra stooooopid in light of Louis CK's honesty, even his honesty about his 'failures' in his career. 

I saw Louis CK last week.  2nd show at the Chicago Theater (holds, what, 3500 people--both were sold out), and his new stuff is really great.  Mining similar territory, but really fluid, honest stuff.  I just don't find this honest in Maron's comedy--he also seems to disdain or question comedians who work a lot, or rather have a work ethic.  Absolutely delusional dude, though and through.

I'm not trying to change your mind about Maron or argue with you (or even disagree, really), but to say that an interview is great while trying to give absolute zero credit to the interviewer is a bit unfair. Whether or not you like Maron's public character or his work, he deserves a bunch of credit for that interview. I've heard lots of interviews with Louis CK, and he's always candid and honest, but the WTF interview with something else entirely. I don't know if anyone else could've gotten that interview out of him.

No, no argument from me at all, and an admission of unfairness on my part.  I really do see this  as Maron's m.o.: He's been lucky (or tenacious) to have a built a nearly 30-year career with very little main-stream or even critical success/praise, and this in turn has given him access to a lot of comedians--hence the workshop nature of the show at times.  No one but a friend could have pulled that out of Louis CK, just as no one but Maron could have gotten Mencia to have had such a public meltdown (again, Maron's m.o.--he garners trust, gets you to open up, and he's a respected lifer, so he must be alright, right?). 

I'm saying he obliterates any semblance of good will, sentimentality, or endearment when he acts like a petulant child.  He's seemingly unhappy with what he clearly views as his 'consolation' prize of a very well liked (I never miss an interview of his--never), well-respected, and popular podcast.  Jesse Thorne seems quite pleased with himself on this front, and kudos to him. 

If Maron had a fraction of Thorne's non-invasive attitude during his interviews, he'd literally be the best in the game.  Literally. 

Instead we get a turd sandwich. With Louis CK's interview we get a guy pouring his heart out, simply to be asked if people are 'really like this?', and made to defend his success. 

I'm not even mentioning the broken drum that is his neuroses, basically creepy view of women, or his "shocking" take on race--those things are too obvious to even dissect. 

In spite of this invective, if he charged for this podcast, I would pay for it, as it gets a reaction from me every single time.  I actively look forward to each episode. 

Same way I look forward to eating a jalapeno pepper every morning, right after my cold shower--that way I know the worst part of the day is over. 

But, your point about fairness is exactly right on.  This guys sorta brings out the mean in me. 

YET I CAN'T QUIT HIM....

I understand your reaction to what Maron does, but it's this kind of reaction and the finger-pointing that comes from it that is the reason that Marc is about the only person I can think of that has the balls to express these things about himself.  Especially the whole thing about what a "creep" he is about race and relationships with women.  He puts something that exists within all of us, that we are totally ashamed of, and shines a light on it, not by pointing it out in others, but my admitting to it within himself.  That's about as courageous as it gets.  And to simply label him a creep and claiming to never have such thoughts is dishonest and probably projecting. Assuming you're not perfect, which, not knowing you, I can't claim to know if you are. Maybe you are.
By the way, when I say, "you" I don't mean You, Ike, I'm talking to everyone who shares these criticisms of Marc's work.

And the notion that a Jesse Thorn approach (nothing at all against Jesse Thorn) would have produced nearly as fascinating a conversation is ludicrous.  Maron is the only person capable of creating this kind of listening experience, and it's why this podcast is a rebirth for him.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on October 10, 2010, 05:38:17 PM


And the notion that a Jesse Thorn approach (nothing at all against Jesse Thorn) would have produced nearly as fascinating a conversation is ludicrous.  Maron is the only person capable of creating this kind of listening experience, and it's why this podcast is a rebirth for him.

No, no--that's the only thing I object in your post!  I wasn't suggesting that at all (quite the opposite), but only suggesting Maron could use some of his humility, or at least the ability to separate himself from his interviews--that is all. 

I have to admit, too, that it would probably help if I actually enjoyed his comedy. 

But, again, bottom line for me is pretty much whole-heartedly agreeing.  I just don't like how he gets there. 

I couldn't be less perfect if I tried!  I'm having a lifelong love affair with imperfection, in fact. 

Ike
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on October 10, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
I listen to every WTF episode, and am generally glad that I do. But his narcissism can get wearying. That's why I liked him on Air America's "Morning Sedition" show. Back when he was obligated to devote some attention to politics, Marc Maron was forced to pay a little less attention to the topic of Marc Maron. And I also found it compelling that he sometimes struggled with his own feelings about certain political topics ... his willingness to politically question himself on-air made him more interesting than Al Franken and most of the other hosts on that network (I'm glad Franken's in the Senate now, but that doesn't mean his show was any good).

Another good thing about Morning Sedition was the collaborative aspect ... he had some Daily Show people on the writing staff and there were good recurring characters done by folks like Jim Earl and Kent Jones.

As WTF's success grows I'm thinking he can bring in some collaborators or do some stuff to expand the scope of the show. Not necessarily political stuff but I dunno ... SOMETHING to distract himself from the navel-gazing. Granted, he wouldn't be Marc Maron if he weren't at least a little bit introspective ... but I think he can ease up on that stuff a little bit.

(Along the same lines, it'd be cool if he tried to line up some more guests from outside the comedy world. He's got a curious and flexible mind and does a decent job when he occasionally interviews authors and musicians and such ...)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on October 11, 2010, 07:19:57 AM
I listen to every WTF episode, and am generally glad that I do. .........
(Along the same lines, it'd be cool if he tried to line up some more guests from outside the comedy world. He's got a curious and flexible mind and does a decent job when he occasionally interviews authors and musicians and such ...)

I have almost caught up with all of them (started over the summer)... They're almost all great, some much better than that.

And yes, I'd bet that he will eventually have to find new interviewees other than comedians - especially at the pace of two interviews per week.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: CaptKarl on October 11, 2010, 09:25:20 AM
I say hat's off to Marc. He is doing something that he created in his own image in the way that he wished to do it, and it appears that he has achieved enough success doing it that it has become self-sufficient. Maron's MO has always been a selfish dick that means well but can't get out of his own way, and then he obsesses over his self defeating narcissism. It is kind of a take it or leave it deal, me thinks.

It seems to me that a lot of great comedians that never hit when they probably should have, have all reached this Fugazi moment simultaneously. Maron with WTF, PFT with his 300, Louis with his famed "Louis contract", and all the great new kind of rooms springing up across the country like Acme in Minneapolis, The Laughing Skull in ATL, The Comedy Attic in Bloomington, The UCB's, and all of the concert halls that put up touring comedians. It is a stand-up renaissance.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on October 11, 2010, 05:11:33 PM
I think a true measure of Maron's success as a podcaster is the fact that he's got a 17 page thread of people who listen to his podcast debating all aspects of he and his work.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on October 12, 2010, 11:44:03 AM
I'm listening to the Dana Gould episode now - god is he good.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on October 12, 2010, 12:41:06 PM
I'm listening to the Dana Gould episode now - god is he good.

I love that episode. The parts where they crack each other up are great.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on October 13, 2010, 09:52:40 PM
I'm listening to the Dana Gould episode now - god is he good.

I love that episode. The parts where they crack each other up are great.

Does Gould do his impression of Adam West trying make it to the bathroom?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: HaroldBlvd on October 15, 2010, 05:02:47 AM
Wow, talk about being late to the party. I just discovered this thread. I thought I was the only FOT who thought Maron should be on the Best Show or Tom should be on WTF.
I had been wondering for the past year or so why the 2 of them never cross paths. I had sent Marc an IM when was doing Break Room Live asking if he listened to the Best Show. Flat out he said no. I didn't pursue but for the life of me I could not figure out why he doesn't listen.   Tom was always complimentary of Marc when he would mention him on the air.
When WTF came around I became even more perplexed as Marc would have many of the Best Show guests on his podcast including PFT. I have been a fan of Maron since his Morning Sedition days. I used to go see the live remote broadcasts of the show. I really do think that Marc was inspired by Tom in what he was trying to do with Morning Sedition. I try to catch Marc whenever he plays NYC. Got tickets to his Comix show on Oct 20.

Every week the WTF podcasts just blow me away. The Louie CK interview was just amazing.

Right now I think Tom would do really well to be a guest on WTF. It may help him purge some of the demons he seems to be struggling with. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on October 15, 2010, 07:45:13 AM
My sense is that Tom's disposition is not such that he would be likely to put himself in the path of Marc's on-the-couch style of psychological probing. But I would still love to hear them talk.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: scratchbomb on October 15, 2010, 09:08:52 AM
Harold--I just listened to the Louis CK eps and I agree, they're amazing. Especially part 2; Louie talking about seeing his child for the first time was really moving, and talking about how he makes "Louie" pretty much all himself was amazing, and inspiring.

As far as being a guest, I think the biggest obstacle would be Marc's toilet mouth proclivities (not just words, but subjects). I also feel like his narcissistic form of self loathing--which I enjoy, in doses--would be draining for the average length of a Best Show guest spot.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mike_b on October 15, 2010, 03:47:41 PM
If you are at all on the fence about this podcast, listen to the Jonathan Ames episode.  I won't spoil it for you.  I couldn't even if I tried.  Just do it.  Oh my god.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on October 15, 2010, 05:47:29 PM
If you are at all on the fence about this podcast, listen to the Jonathan Ames episode.  I won't spoil it for you.  I couldn't even if I tried.  Just do it.  Oh my god.

Maybe it's because I was (and am) completely unfamiliar with Mr. Ames and his work, but this was probably my least favorite episode. I really struggled to make it through the entire thing, and that never happens. Maybe I'm just projecting, but I didn't even think Marc sounded that engaged.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: HaroldBlvd on October 15, 2010, 10:30:20 PM
I haven't heard it yet. Ames' HBO show Bored to Death is ok. I have a hard time keeping up with all my podcasts. Right now I'm listening to the 10 Anniversary Show w/ AP Mike and Terese.

Then I choose between the new Bugle, Comedy Death Ray, and the new Pod F Thomcast. So many laughs, so little time.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: snogrog on October 15, 2010, 11:19:37 PM
If you are at all on the fence about this podcast, listen to the Jonathan Ames episode.  I won't spoil it for you.  I couldn't even if I tried.  Just do it.  Oh my god.

Was not expecting this type of reaction. Excited to listen to this episode now!

I think my only complaint about this show lately is that 2 episodes a week is eating up A TON of podcast listening time!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ErnieWV on October 16, 2010, 09:51:40 AM
I blow hot and cold on Marc Maron which makes his podcast always interesting to me. Every episode he apologizes to his guest for some slight in the past. I thought this was mostly schtick until I listened to the Louis CK episodes. There was genuine remorse and sadness when they spoke about the strain their relationship had gone through. I think he would be a good guest for Tom. Nothing but good can come from an encounter between two very honest and funny people.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 16, 2010, 08:24:40 PM
My OCD tendencies have gotten away from me (probably stress related) to this extent.

I am about 127 podcast episodes behind; many of those are 2 hours or more.

Outside of a couple of dozen special cases, I have not listened to a CD that I have purchased since 2004. There's about 550 of them. I keep telling myself I will get around to it.

I am reading about 4 - 6 books per year; I am buying about 5 a month.

Somebody call Hoarders for me; my little dog Pippin is in danger.

The last episode of Maron I have heard was number 99. It's on the bottom of the list of 24-27 I am trying to keep up with.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on October 16, 2010, 11:40:04 PM
I unsubscribed from a bunch of podcasts that I quite like just so things would stay manageable. The idea of feeling like I'm "behind" on something that's supposed to be fun is not at all alien to me, so out came the axe.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on October 17, 2010, 03:20:24 AM
Yeah, me too. I recently unsubscribed to a bunch of podcasts, cleared out some stuff from my RSS reader, etc. Also slashing the number of TV shows I watch. It shouldn't feel like a chore.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 17, 2010, 07:18:49 AM
Yeah, me too. I recently unsubscribed to a bunch of podcasts, cleared out some stuff from my RSS reader, etc. Also slashing the number of TV shows I watch. It shouldn't feel like a chore.

I should follow your leads, but it's hard for me to give up. There's some kernel stuck in there that says "you might miss something."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on October 17, 2010, 08:24:35 AM

I should (will) follow your leads, but it's hard for me to give up. There's some kernel stuck in there that says "you might miss something."

Know what you're talking about!   An important reason why I quit twitter was to overcome my absurd desire for information.

Chances are you will "miss" something.  But, I've found the important stuff comes back around.

Frequently, at a time when you're better prepared to incorporate/utilize it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ErnieWV on October 17, 2010, 11:09:15 AM
What a great problem for us to have! I remember a time when the only comedy I got to see was either on Ed Sullivan or Steve Allen and if Jackie Vernon had a bad set, better luck next week. And yes I did have to get up the next morning and walk two miles to school(uphill both ways). I too am way behind on podcasts but we get to choose from the best. I never have to settle for listening to someone who I dislike but may have a clever turn of phrase or is occasionally funny. To Fredericks' point about what's important- I came to the Best Show late but not only do I laugh every week, I learn something and am able to appreciate music and comedy that I never would have heard about anywhere else, too many examples to list here.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on October 18, 2010, 06:37:57 PM
I just listened to the Jonathan Ames episode and thought it very fine. Ames is chatty and debonair, and if Maron is a little more restrained than usual I didn't take it to be non-engagement so much as a kind of meeting Ames on his own ground of urbane cool.  It's just great conversation.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on October 18, 2010, 09:09:06 PM
Yeah, me too. I recently unsubscribed to a bunch of podcasts, cleared out some stuff from my RSS reader, etc. Also slashing the number of TV shows I watch. It shouldn't feel like a chore.

I should follow your leads, but it's hard for me to give up. There's some kernel stuck in there that says "you might miss something."

Yeah, I have an even worse backlog than you, Dave. I have the shows I have to listen to every single episode and then a bunch that I subscribe to but usually delete without listening unless its a guest I'm really interested in. I'm fortunate enough to be able to listen to a couple hours at work every day but the backlog just keeps growing. At least I'm not quite at the point where it all feels like a chore. Then I'd probably just hope for a harddrive crash.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on October 19, 2010, 04:19:19 PM
Even though I'm not terribly familiar with Ames, I really enjoyed that interview.  I loved his description of Spaulding Gray--"My left eye began to twitch, and I thought of my mother swimming." 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on October 20, 2010, 12:26:19 AM
My own experience with Ames is limited.  I've read the short story on which "Bored to Death" is based, a couple of his nonfiction pieces, and the novel WAKE UP, SIR, which I found, if not life-changing, a real stitch.  I also saw him host a Moth evening, where he was quite the howl. I like him quite a bit, but does anyone know of a real knockout punch by him that I've missed?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on October 20, 2010, 01:10:09 PM
The one thing of his I've read is the graphic novel Marc mentioned, The Alcoholic.  Really enjoyed it, although I don't understand why it needed to be a graphic novel.  The art was great, but it didn't seem to add anything.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on November 15, 2010, 01:28:57 PM
The new WTF  episode is fantastic. Marc and a couple younger comedians sneak a microphone into the Creation Museum.

Amongst other things, they learn about the presence of dragons and brontosauruses on Noah's Ark, and also a few of the consequences of original sin: " 1.Plants struggle against other plants for survival and  2.Plants grow where they are not wanted (weeds)."

(http://soilsparks.typepad.com/.a/6a010536bfd496970b0120a5176381970b-500wi)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SJK on November 15, 2010, 02:14:40 PM
Seconded, great show.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on November 15, 2010, 03:08:29 PM
I can't wait to hear that one. My wife and I and a few friends visited that place a couple of years back. There was a similar plaque explaining how poison dart frogs weren't poisonous until Adam sinned. A very, very strange place.

The new WTF  episode is fantastic. Marc and a couple younger comedians sneak a microphone into the Creation Museum.

Amongst other things, they learn about the presence of dragons and brontosauruses on Noah's Ark, and also a few of the consequences of original sin: " 1.Plants struggle against other plants for survival and  2.Plants grow where they are not wanted (weeds)."

([url]http://soilsparks.typepad.com/.a/6a010536bfd496970b0120a5176381970b-500wi[/url])
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on November 16, 2010, 05:31:00 PM
My own experience with Ames is limited.  I've read the short story on which "Bored to Death" is based, a couple of his nonfiction pieces, and the novel WAKE UP, SIR, which I found, if not life-changing, a real stitch.  I also saw him host a Moth evening, where he was quite the howl. I like him quite a bit, but does anyone know of a real knockout punch by him that I've missed?

I thought "The Extra Man" was good. Not quite as good as "Wake Up, Sir" but very enjoyable all the same.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on November 16, 2010, 08:43:50 PM
I listened to the Creation Museum show and while it was really good, I'm surprised(?) he/they didn't pick up on the undercurrent of anti-Asian racism in the place.

Also, no mention of the penguin.

Finally, I'm sorry they didn't have the Noah's Ark exhibit finished yet when we visited.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: patfromlansing on November 20, 2010, 04:44:12 PM
I saw Marc live in Pontiac, MI the day the creation museum episode dropped.    He mentioned the penguin and how it didn't make sense for the climate, and that it was probably meant for a pallate cleanser before the brontosaurus is seen in the garden.

Marc said he was working on a new CD, and will cover the museum in more detail then.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on November 20, 2010, 10:34:39 PM
I listened to the Creation Museum show and while it was really good, I'm surprised(?) he/they didn't pick up on the undercurrent of anti-Asian racism in the place.

Also, no mention of the penguin.

Finally, I'm sorry they didn't have the Noah's Ark exhibit finished yet when we visited.

Wait, I just went today, what anti-asian racism is this that you speak of?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on November 21, 2010, 12:38:17 PM
As good as the episode proper was, I really enjoyed his discourse on faith in the intro.  I don't agree entirely, but I really appreciate a non-religious person trying to take faith seriously.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on November 21, 2010, 02:53:14 PM
The Paul Scheer episode is sooooooooo good.  So fascinating. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 21, 2010, 05:45:21 PM
I am 27 episodes behind!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on November 21, 2010, 05:57:32 PM
I listened to the Creation Museum show and while it was really good, I'm surprised(?) he/they didn't pick up on the undercurrent of anti-Asian racism in the place.

Also, no mention of the penguin.

Finally, I'm sorry they didn't have the Noah's Ark exhibit finished yet when we visited.

Wait, I just went today, what anti-asian racism is this that you speak of?

There is the little diorama with the creation scientist and the legitimate scientist, and the legitimate scientist is an Asian gentleman. Later, there's the scare film with 100s of Asian soldiers. Unless they don't have that stuff anymore.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on November 21, 2010, 06:27:48 PM
I am 27 episodes behind!

Skip ahead, Dave.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on November 21, 2010, 11:17:23 PM
Whatever, but can anyone explain to me why Noah has a Russian accent?  I mean, it sounds as if it's really pronounced.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 22, 2010, 06:32:37 AM
Whatever, but can anyone explain to me why Noah has a Russian accent?  I mean, it sounds as if it's really pronounced.

God works in mysterious ways.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on November 22, 2010, 04:52:51 PM
Whatever, but can anyone explain to me why Noah has a Russian accent?  I mean, it sounds as if it's really pronounced.

God works in mysterious ways.

After God smote the Tower of Babel, he made all the peoples of the world speak English with different accents.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on November 22, 2010, 05:06:58 PM
Yeah, and it took some people a long time to go to Russia.

Actually when Noah tried to warn people about the consequences of their wickedness, they told him 'if you don't like it, go to Russia'.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Boogdish on November 30, 2010, 10:09:37 AM
In Soviet Russia, ARK BUILDS YOU!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on November 30, 2010, 08:08:47 PM
As good as the episode proper was, I really enjoyed his discourse on faith in the intro.  I don't agree entirely, but I really appreciate a non-religious person trying to take faith seriously.

It was good, PJ. I'm active in my school secular student's group and one of the things I try to do is keep people's understanding of religious beliefs and people in check. Maron made a good point when was talking about atheists -- I have to agree with him that we can became very nasty, very quickly. I also don't agree with his meditation on that stuff 100%, but he was able to put into words roughly how I feel about these things better than I think I could.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on December 09, 2010, 10:22:21 AM
I'm not really familiar with his comedy, but the Mike DeStefano episode is incredible. I spent most of the episode in tears.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SJK on December 09, 2010, 11:38:19 AM
I'm not really familiar with his comedy, but the Mike DeStefano episode is incredible. I spent most of the episode in tears.
Same here, the guy was a total mystery to me. I really liked this episode, also Janeane Garofalo...I have a soft spot for her.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: TacoSmith on December 09, 2010, 02:23:21 PM
I'm not really familiar with his comedy, but the Mike DeStefano episode is incredible. I spent most of the episode in tears.
Wow, I guess I'll have to listen to that one. I had been avoiding it because I'm not the biggest fan of his comedy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on December 09, 2010, 03:56:26 PM
According to twitter, Marc and Tom had a nice night at the YLT show. I hope this is a good sign for Tom being on WTF in the future.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: effecT on December 09, 2010, 05:16:03 PM
According to twitter, Marc and Tom had a nice night at the YLT show. I hope this is a good sign for Tom being on WTF in the future.
I don't think Tom would ever go on that show.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: TacoSmith on December 09, 2010, 05:56:07 PM
Oh no, this thread is getting caught in a time loop!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on December 10, 2010, 07:06:07 AM
I think it's been in a loop since about page 6.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SJK on December 10, 2010, 09:42:21 AM
I think this is the story referred to during the interview on WTF.
Mike DeStefano tells his story (http://vimeo.com/5155353)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 10, 2010, 02:09:51 PM
According to twitter, Marc and Tom had a nice night at the YLT show. I hope this is a good sign for Tom being on WTF in the future.

You got this hope backwards
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dragonchiptune on December 14, 2010, 02:27:48 AM
I've been digging through the WTF archives for such a long time. I hope I don't become worn out because of it. I've heard a lot of great episodes and the show has acquired my respect. Unfortunately I feel like the moment I get to the current episode, I may find I've reached a finish line and I just want a mug and a blanket.

I feel that there's just barely a tinge of spirituality to Maron's comedy that I admire.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on December 14, 2010, 11:07:05 AM
The Mike D one was the most compelling one yet, and that's saying something.  It's also admirable how Marc chose not to hype the episode by teasing with the subjects addressed.

I thought there was a tenderness in the Janeane Garofalo episode that was touching.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on December 19, 2010, 01:53:58 PM
The Mike D one was the most compelling one yet, and that's saying something.  It's also admirable how Marc chose not to hype the episode by teasing with the subjects addressed.



I'd never even heard of the guy, but people were raving about this episode so I gave it a listen even though I've got a huge backlog of WTFs I've yet to listen to and... wow. It certainly wasn't the funniest episode if that's all you're looking for, but it was as compelling as any interview you're likely to hear from any comedian.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on December 19, 2010, 10:15:16 PM
I've only got one episode in the backlog until I'm all caught up.  Thank god that Matthew dude isn't on the podcast anymore. Listening to him on the Caroline Rhea episode literally made me clench my fists.
I also couldn't take the Charles Fleischer live episode.  That guy makes Robin Williams seem like Steven Wright. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on December 20, 2010, 08:47:28 AM
Agreed on all accounts, Hugman.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on December 20, 2010, 01:51:04 PM
Agreed on all accounts, Hugman.

Yeah, Fleischer was pretty unbearable, especially when he wouldn't let the other guests have their turn. It was a bit like Robert Plant in every live Led Zeppelin recording I've ever heard. "Yes, Robert, those are very fine fake orgasm noises. Now will you please stop interrupting Mr. Page's solo?"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on December 20, 2010, 10:36:50 PM
Agreed on all accounts, Hugman.

Yeah, Fleischer was pretty unbearable, especially when he wouldn't let the other guests have their turn. It was a bit like Robert Plant in every live Led Zeppelin recording I've ever heard. "Yes, Robert, those are very fine fake orgasm noises. Now will you please stop interrupting Mr. Page's solo?"

You could really hear the "this guys is never coming near one of my shows again" in Marc's voice by the end of it. The rest of that episode was good, but Charles killed it (not in the good way).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 06, 2011, 05:14:32 PM
Coming soon to WTF: John Hodgeman.

(How do I know this? Because something called the "Timescast" for Jan. 6 has a short profile of Maron that shows him recording the interview.  Not particularly worth watching except for that nugget of info, though: http://video.nytimes.com/video/playlist/timescast/1247467375115/index.html (http://video.nytimes.com/video/playlist/timescast/1247467375115/index.html))
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Denim Gremlin on January 06, 2011, 07:05:52 PM
i always have to skip over the first 15 minutes or so of every podcast. I love his interviews but I can't stand his moaning in the beginning.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 06, 2011, 07:26:34 PM
I thought the opening segment of the Mike DeStefano episode, where he just played recorded phone calls with his stepmother, father, and brother, was pretty hilarious.  Not quite as acrimonious as a call from Ron Scharpling, but all real!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on January 07, 2011, 03:53:01 PM
i always have to skip over the first 15 minutes or so of every podcast. I love his interviews but I can't stand his moaning in the beginning.

I understand.  I love it, though.  Especially if I'm feeling a lot of angst or anxiety. It soothes me.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on January 07, 2011, 04:06:23 PM
I used to find the opening bitst annoying, but I've grown to enjoy them now too. I agree that the phone calls to his family were pretty amazing.

This show got me through those 6 weeks when the Best Show was off the air.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Reeleyes on January 07, 2011, 04:23:17 PM
Did not expect to like the Bobby Lee one nearly as much as I did.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: senorcorazon on January 07, 2011, 05:04:14 PM
I love this podcast, but especially on 2x playback on my ipod for most of it.

I'm sure everyone caught the article on NYTimes.com about it today. Those pictures are insane.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on January 07, 2011, 05:47:25 PM
I didn't see it, but went and read - here's the link. (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/arts/09maron.html) Those photos are indeed insane - the one of a very young Louis CK and Maron was actually confusing for about 10 seconds.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 07, 2011, 07:06:17 PM
That's an interesting article, but why is Frank Zappa in the lead photo?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: patfromlansing on January 11, 2011, 08:17:29 PM
It's funny that you mention Frank Zappa.   I saw Marc when he came to Michigan in November, and brought my dad along.    We were waiting for the venue to open and started lining up.     Marc showed up and was trying to cut in line to get set up, and my dad was like "That guy who looks like Frank Zappa is cutting in line.   I should say something."    Marc heard it, and ended up talking to us for a few minutes before the show.   The show was amazing too, I really recommend checking him out if you get the chance.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 12, 2011, 12:18:54 PM
That's a funny story. At the last comedy show I went to, the relatively talentless opener made a big show of saying 'I'm the performer! I have to get in!' as he walked up to the club, so...compare and contrast.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on January 17, 2011, 02:19:46 PM
One of the ways that I know Maron is really good at this is the fact that I came out of the Kevin Smith interview kinda liking the guy. He did a good job of keeping Smith's excesses in check while still letting him tell his story. Smith kinda lost me again in the last few minutes when he started railing about people who don't like his movies, but up until then I was on his side in a way I haven't ever been before.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SJK on January 17, 2011, 05:50:16 PM
I like him, always have. His movies are an acquired taste...I like a few of them. He has a knack for storytelling. The article(and/or account) he wrote about his friend Jason Mews and his experience in dealing with addiction was quite moving. He knows how to write...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on January 17, 2011, 06:04:42 PM
One of the ways that I know Maron is really good at this is the fact that I came out of the Kevin Smith interview kinda liking the guy. He did a good job of keeping Smith's excesses in check while still letting him tell his story. Smith kinda lost me again in the last few minutes when he started railing about people who don't like his movies, but up until then I was on his side in a way I haven't ever been before.

I like how he talked about how the critics didn't mean anything to him and he didn't care because his house was so big, but then blamed his critics for all the changes in his more recent career (leaving the viewaskewnaverse [Mike, did I spell that right?], directing Cop Out, etc, etc.)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lightworks on January 17, 2011, 06:25:26 PM
Kevin Smith:  "I'm a huge fan of Kinison, that's why I wear the overcoat."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on January 17, 2011, 07:42:10 PM
One of the ways that I know Maron is really good at this is the fact that I came out of the Kevin Smith interview kinda liking the guy. He did a good job of keeping Smith's excesses in check while still letting him tell his story. Smith kinda lost me again in the last few minutes when he started railing about people who don't like his movies, but up until then I was on his side in a way I haven't ever been before.

Smith is also on Nerdist this week. What's he got coming out that he's shilling so hard?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on January 17, 2011, 09:04:20 PM
The Red State teaser.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on January 17, 2011, 09:05:28 PM
Kevin Smith:  "I'm a huge fan of Kinison, that's why I wear the overcoat."

That and because he's fat.  :o
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on January 26, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
I also couldn't take the Charles Fleischer live episode.  That guy makes Robin Williams seem like Steven Wright.

I'm listening to that one right now. Fucking painful. Especially when he randomly breaks into the "ethnic" voices.It's even worse than what I was expecting from the Robin Williams episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on January 28, 2011, 07:39:25 AM
I wonder how difficult it was for Maron to talk to someone so infinitely more talented, charming, and interesting (Oswalt) YET CONTINUE to remain so woefully self-absorbed.....

I wonder how tough that is to pull off? 

"So, the mouse movie...."

"Yeah, so, then you got a book or something....."

What the fuck indeed! 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on January 28, 2011, 09:19:33 AM
I wonder how difficult it was for Maron to talk to someone so infinitely more talented, charming, and interesting (Oswalt) YET CONTINUE to remain so woefully self-absorbed.....

I wonder how tough that is to pull off? 

"So, the mouse movie...."

"Yeah, so, then you got a book or something....."

What the fuck indeed!

It seemed pretty obvious to me that Maron was joking around with Oswalt when he said those things. And if it didn't bother Patton, why let it bother you?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bernard on January 28, 2011, 10:15:15 AM
based on marc's tweets yesterday, i'm really looking forward to the gallagher interview.  it sounds much like the av club article. 

for a guy who i don't know much about, i enjoyed the recent joe mande interview.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on January 28, 2011, 10:43:13 AM
... i'm really looking forward to the gallagher interview ...

Oh wow. I'm looking forward to that with a mixture of fascination and dread.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 28, 2011, 10:54:03 AM
I'm looking forward to the follow-up interview with Gallagher Too.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 28, 2011, 12:20:20 PM
I'm looking forward to the follow-up interview with Gallagher Too.

Also with Black Gallagher, and Gallagirl
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 28, 2011, 12:22:08 PM
Don't forget Bizarro Gallagher, who is the funniest comedian in the universe.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on January 28, 2011, 12:52:33 PM
I'm wondering if he'll even be able to use the Gallagher interview. He tweeted that he only got about 30 minutes before Gallagher threw a hissy fit and stormed out. That doesn't seem like enough for an entire show unless he extends the intro to 30 minutes or so. I like the intros, but I don't know if I'd be able to last through that much.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 28, 2011, 01:10:23 PM
I'm wondering if he'll even be able to use the Gallagher interview. He tweeted that he only got about 30 minutes before Gallagher threw a hissy fit and stormed out. That doesn't seem like enough for an entire show unless he extends the intro to 30 minutes or so. I like the intros, but I don't know if I'd be able to last through that much.

He could take the Mencia approach, interviewing other people who've known him forever for further "illumination".
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on January 28, 2011, 01:49:07 PM
I wonder how difficult it was for Maron to talk to someone so infinitely more talented, charming, and interesting (Oswalt) YET CONTINUE to remain so woefully self-absorbed.....

I wonder how tough that is to pull off? 

"So, the mouse movie...."

"Yeah, so, then you got a book or something....."

What the fuck indeed!

It seemed pretty obvious to me that Maron was joking around with Oswalt when he said those things. And if it didn't bother Patton, why let it bother you?

Could not disagree more.  I've listened to every episode of WTF (my war, not yours...) and he's got a condescension in his voice when he talks to 'old friends' who are infinitely more talented/successful.  It didn't bother Patton b/c they have history and I'm sure he knows exactly whom he's dealing with--a petulant man-child. 
It only bothers me when I forget for an episode or two that he's such a shitcake; when he's actually a tremendous interviewer.  The 'big ones' (Mencia, Dane Cook, Robin Williams, even Louis CK to a degree) were wonderful.  That other fella, the one with the INSANE life (his wife passed away--the interview with the motorcycle ride story) was an incredible, empathetic interview.  Then he just nosedives with his jealously. 

So, yeah, I can actually be critical of him. He's a turd.  I can be critical of turds. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 28, 2011, 02:45:30 PM
Yeah, Mike DiStefano. That was a pretty great episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Denim Gremlin on January 28, 2011, 08:57:19 PM
I wonder how difficult it was for Maron to talk to someone so infinitely more talented, charming, and interesting (Oswalt) YET CONTINUE to remain so woefully self-absorbed.....

I wonder how tough that is to pull off? 

"So, the mouse movie...."

"Yeah, so, then you got a book or something....."

What the fuck indeed!

It seemed pretty obvious to me that Maron was joking around with Oswalt when he said those things. And if it didn't bother Patton, why let it bother you?

Could not disagree more.  I've listened to every episode of WTF (my war, not yours...) and he's got a condescension in his voice when he talks to 'old friends' who are infinitely more talented/successful.  It didn't bother Patton b/c they have history and I'm sure he knows exactly whom he's dealing with--a petulant man-child. 
It only bothers me when I forget for an episode or two that he's such a shitcake; when he's actually a tremendous interviewer.  The 'big ones' (Mencia, Dane Cook, Robin Williams, even Louis CK to a degree) were wonderful.  That other fella, the one with the INSANE life (his wife passed away--the interview with the motorcycle ride story) was an incredible, empathetic interview.  Then he just nosedives with his jealously. 

So, yeah, I can actually be critical of him. He's a turd.  I can be critical of turds.

yeah i agree. i think it's the interview with Zach Galifianakis where Zach actual calls him out on making all these back handed complements and pretty much being a total asshole. it was great
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on January 28, 2011, 11:53:26 PM
I wonder how difficult it was for Maron to talk to someone so infinitely more talented, charming, and interesting (Oswalt) YET CONTINUE to remain so woefully self-absorbed.....

I wonder how tough that is to pull off? 

"So, the mouse movie...."

"Yeah, so, then you got a book or something....."

What the fuck indeed!

It seemed pretty obvious to me that Maron was joking around with Oswalt when he said those things. And if it didn't bother Patton, why let it bother you?

Could not disagree more.  I've listened to every episode of WTF (my war, not yours...) and he's got a condescension in his voice when he talks to 'old friends' who are infinitely more talented/successful.  It didn't bother Patton b/c they have history and I'm sure he knows exactly whom he's dealing with--a petulant man-child. 
It only bothers me when I forget for an episode or two that he's such a shitcake; when he's actually a tremendous interviewer.  The 'big ones' (Mencia, Dane Cook, Robin Williams, even Louis CK to a degree) were wonderful.  That other fella, the one with the INSANE life (his wife passed away--the interview with the motorcycle ride story) was an incredible, empathetic interview.  Then he just nosedives with his jealously. 

So, yeah, I can actually be critical of him. He's a turd.  I can be critical of turds.

I'm not trying to argue whether or not Maron is a "turd." I'm saying that, whatever tensions you (or any other listener) might perceive between the two, Patton clearly has a great deal of affection for Marc. I wouldn't think he would agree to appear 3 times on the show of someone he only grudingly tolerates, especially one hosted by someone whose popularity he has cleared dwarved (meaning he's not doing it for the career boost). Then again, you've listened to every episode of a show hosted by a guy who clearly bugs the shit out of you, so what do I know?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 29, 2011, 05:56:43 AM
Oh MOS, you're a wonderful addition to my life. Sincerely.

I think that while Maron is neurotic and self-centered, I also think he exaggerates that for effect on the show, and I feel like the people who know him and go way back buy into that for comedic effect.

Tom once said during one of the external radio and/or podcast interviews that people have pointed to that he finds it odd how people think they know him because they hear him three hours a week on the best show, and I think the same idea applies. There are certainly aspects of Tom that come through on the show, but mostly, as he has pointed out in these external interviews, we don't know him, at all. My sense is that he's playing a sort of super-exaggerated version of a very limited number of aspects of his personality, but I am even guessing at that.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on January 29, 2011, 05:09:47 PM
Oh MOS, you're a wonderful addition to my life. Sincerely.

I think that while Maron is neurotic and self-centered, I also think he exaggerates that for effect on the show, and I feel like the people who know him and go way back buy into that for comedic effect.

Tom once said during one of the external radio and/or podcast interviews that people have pointed to that he finds it odd how people think they know him because they hear him three hours a week on the best show, and I think the same idea applies. There are certainly aspects of Tom that come through on the show, but mostly, as he has pointed out in these external interviews, we don't know him, at all. My sense is that he's playing a sort of super-exaggerated version of a very limited number of aspects of his personality, but I am even guessing at that.

I really wonder how much of this is true with Maron, as he appears (or acts, in this case) like an open wound.  He all but states that the show is therapy for him--that he needs a reaction to the his 'bleeding' (or other ridiculous metaphors he employs) to feel something. 

That said, I wouldn't begin to 'know' the guy, not even in the slightest, and I wouldn't want to, not even in the slightest.  Obviously he and Oswalt have a relationship, and I would say that relationship is Oswalt throwing him some sort of a bone, which coincidentally happens right around the time his book is coming out. 

Wow.  I've spent a lot of time writing about Marc Maron this week!

Maron 1, Ike 0.

Ike
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on January 29, 2011, 10:20:46 PM
The only time I've ever heard "turd" as an insult is that episode of Freaks and Geeks where Bill prank calls Biff from Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rhymes with Don Draper on January 30, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
I listened to the latest Patton Oswalt WTF episode and, while I enjoyed it, I thought "wow, these guys bring out the bad in each other."  It really seems like their relationship is (somewhat) fixed in this acrimonious point in time and whenever they're around each other they regress (somewhat) to their frenemy status.  Granted, this aspect of their relationship seems well-managed, but it doesn't seem like they have a developing relationship either.

I'm analyzing this too much, but that's the vibe I got from the interview.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on January 31, 2011, 09:00:21 AM
So far almost all of the WTFs have been Wins (uncomfortable moments, the Oswalt episodes and others included), but the Henry Rollins one was definitely not one of them.

Although, given Rollins' style and manner, it would have been quite a coup if we did actually get to hear something come out of his mouth that we didn't expect. You have to wonder why - given that everyone knows what they're getting into when they agree to a WTF interview - he even agreed to do it in the first place.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on January 31, 2011, 09:25:09 AM
Gallagher. 

Holy shit, Gallagher. 

!!!

Maron had a little speech before the actual interview, and he basically apologizes for his actions--he has nothing to apologize for.  This Gallagher character is off the rails.  Or on them, as it sounds.

GREAT WTF episode. 

GREAT!

Ike
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: J W Buchanan on January 31, 2011, 11:51:55 AM
HAY YOU GUYS!

I heard Mort Maron did cocainez with Stan Kennison one time.

OK BYE!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 31, 2011, 11:59:01 AM
I believe I may have posted before on this forum that somewhere on the web there is a cartoon of a Human Centipede composed of five Gallaghers.  The execution isn't as good as the idea, so I'm not going to try to find the link.  Just imagine, and enjoy!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on January 31, 2011, 12:54:44 PM
Holy shit.

Somehow, I was spared the comedy stylings of Gallagher. I kinda knew he was the bald guy with a mustache who smashed watermelons onstage, etc.

Maron's interview with him (which I have yet to listen to) prompted me to check him out online.

What a fucking ass wipe. Whatever his politics are, he should have a lifetime ban from anything related to comedy.

Gallagher vs. open miker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXjk1IorcPg&feature=related#)

Gallagher alienates his audience (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqWEqjw_DTE&feature=related#)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Big Plastic Head on January 31, 2011, 01:16:54 PM
Jesus, I knew Gallagher was a blowhard but man, what an animal. His arguments defending his shitty humor to Maron were embarrassing to listen to.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on January 31, 2011, 01:26:08 PM
Gallagher will be at the comedy club a few blocks from my house in March. I'm almost tempted to go, except tickets are $30 + 2 drink.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on January 31, 2011, 01:30:00 PM
I'm really scared to listen to the Gallagher episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 31, 2011, 02:23:54 PM
I like the "whaat?" from one audience member after he says "This is the problem with America...not one person is in jail for what they did!"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Big Plastic Head on January 31, 2011, 02:51:32 PM
Gallagher will be at the comedy club a few blocks from my house in March. I'm almost tempted to go, except tickets are $30 + 2 drink.

He played our local casino a year ago and, after hearing that interview, I wish I would have gone, sat in the back and watched the spectacle.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on January 31, 2011, 03:39:10 PM
I'm really scared to listen to the Gallagher episode.

I didn't even listen to it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on January 31, 2011, 04:15:29 PM
Those Gallagher videos are like the comedy equivalent of Jake "The Snake" Roberts' alcoholic meltdown.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: samir on January 31, 2011, 04:46:12 PM
"Who the fuck wants to work the state fair circuit?"
"...Everybody"

Great episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Greggulator on January 31, 2011, 05:35:40 PM
I interviewed Gallagher for a newspaper I worked at in Massachusetts back in 2003. It was one of the best days of work I ever had.

A few of my friends and I have been obsessed w/ Gallagher forever -- probably from the night we were intoxicated and watched one of his specials where he's rollerskating while being towed by a car and then trips and nearly rips his arm off. He has this insane thing called "40 Doors" which is this business plan he has to have a hotel w/ 40 doors which is somehow ideal for family reunions that we also saw him talk about somewhere that was so brilliant in its inanity and delusions.

Usually when you have to interview a somewhat famous person it's like this 500 step process. For Gallagher, I found his agent's contact on a Geocities page. He gave me Gallagher's number and told me to call him whenever. When I did Gallagher picked up literally after half a ring.

I naturally began my interview with him by asking: "Gallagher, is it okay to refer to you as a genius?"

I was then on the phone w/ Gallagher for about an hour. It was completely insane and one of the best things ever.

http://comicvsaudience.blogspot.com/2008/03/interview-gallagher.html (http://comicvsaudience.blogspot.com/2008/03/interview-gallagher.html)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on January 31, 2011, 06:17:04 PM
I'm sure everyone has seen his new twitter account. I don't even need to follow the guy since half the people I follow have been retweeting his insanity.

Gregg, that was an interesting read. He blames the struggling economy, even back then, for his shrinking audience.  I'd say it's just market correction after everyone found out that he's a miserable creep.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on January 31, 2011, 07:07:04 PM
The Gallagher twitter account has been confirmed as fake.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on January 31, 2011, 08:08:32 PM
Maron's interview with him (which I have yet to listen to) prompted me to check him out online.

When was this butthole on "WTF"? Oh, God, how I hate Gallagher... A year or so ago I read this article on a show he did in Spanish that was obviously a thousand times funnier than the show itself...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 31, 2011, 08:23:37 PM
I just heard it.  Geesh.  I'm not even sure it's worth listening to.  It's not Maron's best moment either (not that I would have idea #1 of how to deal with that creep) and doesn't even have the psychological mystery-story interest of the Mencia.  It's basically just 30 minutes of being shown that this bitter old man lives in his own private hell, and we already knew that.

However, Gallagher as a guest on the Best Show--that I would listen to.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on January 31, 2011, 08:28:57 PM
I can't believe Gallagher tried to make an argument for "reverse homophobia" (I guess you could call it that) in the comedy world.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on January 31, 2011, 09:27:50 PM
Gallagher sounds like a drunk, crazy, homeless man. Literally.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 31, 2011, 09:41:06 PM
Yes, and he doesn't even have a golden voice.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Boogdish on January 31, 2011, 10:38:48 PM
I wish there was a follow up interview with Gallagher's agent to explain why they thought this would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fish on February 01, 2011, 12:05:25 AM
I'm really scared to listen to the Gallagher episode.

I didn't even listen to it.

It's definitely entertaining.

"I own the rights to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on February 01, 2011, 12:12:57 AM
I'm really scared to listen to the Gallagher episode.

I didn't even listen to it.

It's definitely entertaining.

"I own the rights to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles."


!!!

That's it right there. What the fuck, indeed.  He claims he made no money off of it, then reverses this instantly. 

I absolutely loved this episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on February 01, 2011, 02:24:30 AM
The Gallagher twitter account has been confirmed as fake.

I can't believe so many people thought it was real.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 01, 2011, 12:11:32 PM
There is so much that's great in the Gallagher episode.

-Gallagher's past as a chemist, and his mission to educate people to the dangers of electrons. Also Gallagher going to Universities to talk to Physicists about elementary particles.
-''You were a model before you went into acting.' See, I've practiced this. Why don't I have a talk show?'
-'You won't be able to play the State Fair circuit if you use that approach'.

Also noted is that things really went South once Gallagher started ripping on comics who 'talk too much about themselves', and his 'this is not therapy' remarks, essentially going after Maron's act without knowing it. Of course, we already knew that Gallagher hates all non-Gallagher comics.

All in all, the show was a great cautionary tale about planning for retirement during the time that you are making a crapload of money, should you be fortunate enough to find yourself in such a time.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Big Plastic Head on February 01, 2011, 12:53:26 PM
The Gallagher twitter account has been confirmed as fake.

I can't believe so many people thought it was real.

When you want something to be real that badly, it is easy to be duped. I believed it (with doubts.)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: senorcorazon on February 01, 2011, 02:11:19 PM
There is so much that's great in the Gallagher episode.


My favorite part is Marc going "Aww, c'mon Gallagher!" when he leaves. That pretty much sums up society's response to him.

ELECTRONS!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 01, 2011, 03:15:33 PM
The Gallagher twitter account has been confirmed as fake.

I can't believe so many people thought it was real.

When you want something to be real that badly, it is easy to be duped. I believed it (with doubts.)

I can see people being fooled at first. It actually was a pretty funny goof on Gallagher's cluelessness on Internet matters (despite his extensive involvement in the hard science world), but eventually it became pretty clear it wasn't him.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: effecT on February 02, 2011, 08:08:49 AM
This Gallagher character is so last millenium in terms of the comedy timeline.
Discrediting storytellers like Maron and C.K. and so many more is just sickening.
He is just not smart enough to please intelligent audiences and that is why he tells raunchy, racist, or homphobic dumbass jokes. He says it is about pleasing the audience and not himself in some form of therapy, but he does not understand the power of the connection people have through the human experience.
Everybody hurts and it is hilarious, if it is framed correctly like C.K. does it.
Also he obviously bullshits.
Go to fucking work at CERN if you are so smart. They must get a pretty decent paycheck.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on February 02, 2011, 10:28:57 AM
He had my sympathy until he made that remark about being able to make fun of Arabs because "they're the enemy."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on February 02, 2011, 04:20:25 PM
In an interesting bit of coincidence I heard Maron on Talking Animals this morning.  The host, Duncan Strauss, is a comedy nerd and an avid animal lover-note the show's title.  The Maron interview starts at about the 12 minute mark.  More comedy than animal talk. 
He is a good guest and was able to express himself without swearing.  Could be a good Best Show guest.

Quite enjoyable.   Includes Gallagher talk.

http://www.wmnf.org/programs/350 (http://www.wmnf.org/programs/350)

Enter 02/02/2011 in the Select A Date box.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on February 02, 2011, 05:47:54 PM
In an interesting bit of coincidence I heard Maron on Talking Animals this morning.  The host, Duncan Strauss, is a comedy nerd and an avid animal lover-note the show's title.  The Maron interview starts at about the 12 minute mark.  More comedy than animal talk. 
He is a good guest and was able to express himself without swearing.  Could be a good Best Show guest.

Quite enjoyable.   Includes Gallagher talk.

[url]http://www.wmnf.org/programs/350[/url] ([url]http://www.wmnf.org/programs/350[/url])

Enter 02/02/2011 in the Select A Date box.


He is also pretty good about it on Carolla the other day, too...

ALSO - the part Maron talks about at the start of the show, about Gallagher "teaching" him the coffee trick is such a perfect introduction to the whole interview. Love it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on February 02, 2011, 07:44:45 PM

He is also pretty good about it on Carolla the other day, too...

I haven't listened to Carolla.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 03, 2011, 07:04:49 AM

He is also pretty good about it on Carolla the other day, too...

I haven't listened to Carolla.

Nor should you, ever.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on February 03, 2011, 08:35:44 AM
Right-o, Dave. 

I have plenty of other stuff to listen to.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on February 04, 2011, 06:15:40 PM
Right-o, Dave. 

I have plenty of other stuff to listen to.

You could skip to the Maron parts and listen just the once, if you are so interested. That's how I did it and I made it out okay.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on February 04, 2011, 07:12:53 PM

You could skip to the Maron parts
Which are located...?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on February 04, 2011, 07:50:40 PM

You could skip to the Maron parts
Which are located...?

About 25 minutes into the episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on February 04, 2011, 07:59:43 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fish on February 04, 2011, 08:08:43 PM
Today I finished a marathon of every episode of this thing (minus two I couldn't get a hold of before they took the old ones down).  Now that that's over, hopefully I will feel less depressed...  Good Lord.  (I still want to hear those 2 for some reason).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 04, 2011, 09:07:51 PM
Right-o, Dave. 

I have plenty of other stuff to listen to.

You could skip to the Maron parts and listen just the once, if you are so interested. That's how I did it and I made it out okay.

OK, but wait, are you saying there's some chance I would hear Carolla's braying? Because if there's any chance of that, I would rather pierce my lip with a rusty nail.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 04, 2011, 10:55:34 PM
Today I finished a marathon of every episode of this thing (minus two I couldn't get a hold of before they took the old ones down).  Now that that's over, hopefully I will feel less depressed...  Good Lord.  (I still want to hear those 2 for some reason).

Which 2 have you not heard?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 05, 2011, 12:46:30 PM
I did listen to the Patton Oswalt episode a bit late. Yes, he was a dick to Patton. Even if the 'I don't remember your book's name' stuff was a joke, it suggests a sloppy and half-assed approach to the show that is out of character esp. considering Maron obviously takes the show very seriously.

I did like hearing more about the off-stage writing stuff Oswalt does, though.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Denim Gremlin on February 05, 2011, 04:06:18 PM
I did listen to the Patton Oswalt episode a bit late. Yes, he was a dick to Patton. Even if the 'I don't remember your book's name' stuff was a joke, it suggests a sloppy and half-assed approach to the show that is out of character esp. considering Maron obviously takes the show very seriously.

I did like hearing more about the off-stage writing stuff Oswalt does, though.

i think it's sorta half shtick half the personality defect he has that gives most of the comedians he interviews stories of how they used to hate him.

i think he just can't help being sort of an asshole all the time and it's pretty much folded itself inside of his comedy and persona.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 05, 2011, 06:16:28 PM
I did listen to the Patton Oswalt episode a bit late. Yes, he was a dick to Patton. Even if the 'I don't remember your book's name' stuff was a joke, it suggests a sloppy and half-assed approach to the show that is out of character esp. considering Maron obviously takes the show very seriously.

I did like hearing more about the off-stage writing stuff Oswalt does, though.

i think it's sorta half shtick half the personality defect he has that gives most of the comedians he interviews stories of how they used to hate him.

i think he just can't help being sort of an asshole all the time and it's pretty much folded itself inside of his comedy and persona.

Way to say exactly what I was trying to say earlier. I suppose I sympathize with Maron since I, too, sometimes have a hard time resisting the urge to be a jerk to someone I like.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 05, 2011, 06:17:21 PM
Right-o, Dave. 

I have plenty of other stuff to listen to.

You could skip to the Maron parts and listen just the once, if you are so interested. That's how I did it and I made it out okay.

OK, but wait, are you saying there's some chance I would hear Carolla's braying? Because if there's any chance of that, I would rather pierce my lip with a rusty nail.

I saw his book in the store and just the title and the dumb cover photo made me want to smash something.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on February 05, 2011, 07:19:22 PM
Going by the title, is this Carolla's venture into the 'fratire' genre?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on February 06, 2011, 09:00:55 AM
Going by the title, is this Carolla's venture into the 'fratire' genre?

I've said it before, but I don't think it can be over stated: his book title is vile.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 06, 2011, 09:31:28 AM
Going by the title, is this Carolla's venture into the 'fratire' genre?

I've said it before, but I don't think it can be over stated: his book title is vile.

I can't not hear the title in his voice, so I'm guessing he doesn't mean it "fratirically" (I don't know if that's a word - I'd never heard of "fratire" until Alex P's post. It's probably something Carolla, having heard the term for the first time, would spend 25 minutes trying to shoehorn his book into so as to seem smart while also talking about building a piece of furniture so as not to seem like an egghead).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on February 06, 2011, 12:03:23 PM
Fratire is basically just reactionary sexist nonfiction disguised as satire.

It's that kind of thing where, if you're so over-the-top and ridiculous in your offensiveness then that automatically means that no one has the right to criticize you for it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 06, 2011, 12:04:18 PM
I wish Adam Carolla would go into fratirement.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on February 07, 2011, 11:05:08 AM
That Tobolowsky guy really likes the sound of his own voice, and really loves his own stories.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: wood and iron on February 07, 2011, 11:46:22 AM
That Tobolowsky guy really likes the sound of his own voice, and really loves his own stories.

Way too true. I've listened to a bunch of The Tobolowsky Files, his podcast where he just tells stories about his life. Some are interesting, particularly the stories dealing with the process of acting and his participation in some awesome movies. Most of his stories revolve around his love life and in particular with an ex-girlfriend who he is obviously still very much in love with which must be awkward for his wife.

He also tries way too hard impart some universal or grand theme on all these stupid little stories. He also claims he remembers stuff from when he was 5. Honestly, no one does.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on February 07, 2011, 12:28:06 PM
He also claims he remembers stuff from when he was 5. Honestly, no one does.

Tell that to Marilu Henner and her super memory!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on February 07, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
That Tobolowsky guy really likes the sound of his own voice, and really loves his own stories.

Also, the term 'The other side of miracle' makes absolutely no sense even in context.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 07, 2011, 09:50:10 PM
It's possible to remember stuff from when you were 5. You can even remember stuff from past lives if you have the gift.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: wood and iron on February 07, 2011, 10:19:25 PM
It's possible to remember stuff from when you were 5. You can even remember stuff from past lives if you have the gift.

Well obviously. I was just remembering the time that I was JFK and Martin Luther King, Jr.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 08, 2011, 09:37:48 AM
It's possible to remember stuff from when you were 5. You can even remember stuff from past lives if you have the gift.

Well obviously. I was just remembering the time that I was JFK and Martin Luther King, Jr.

Simultaneously?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on February 08, 2011, 10:25:48 AM

I was just remembering the time that I was JFK and Martin Luther King, Jr.

How'd that work out?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on February 08, 2011, 08:15:32 PM
It seems like more than half the cases of past life-remembrances are people claiming to have been war heroes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on February 09, 2011, 10:19:06 PM
I'm listening to the Paul Scheer episode right now. I normally look past Maron's rudeness but him referring to Human Giant as "Aziz and the other one" was a little too much.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 14, 2011, 10:57:05 AM
Today's episode, people!!!!!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on February 14, 2011, 11:06:27 AM
Today's episode, people!!!!!

I've been trying to listen to them in order, but I'm like 15 behind and I have to listen to this one immediately.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Greggulator on February 14, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
Great interview.

My favorite stuff is about Tom talking about Bob Grant's influence on him. It's not something you'd expect -- Bob Grant was Rush Limbaugh before Rush Limbaugh was Rush Limbaugh -- but it makes complete and total sense after he explains it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on February 14, 2011, 12:12:46 PM
Man, PFT later in the week too!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on February 14, 2011, 12:39:49 PM
"KFMU"

Maron fucked up the call letters.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on February 14, 2011, 10:51:02 PM
"KFMU"

Maron fucked up the call letters.

He also acknowledged it. Crazy to mess up call letters of a radio station. Who doesn't have them all memorized???

Regarding the Tobolowsky interview.  1) I have a LOT of vivid memories from my fifth year on earth. 2) I can't believe nobody has jumped on the fact that he referred to a woman as "an old colored woman."  Took me about five minutes to get my bearings after that.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on February 15, 2011, 01:43:36 AM
"KFMU"

Maron fucked up the call letters.

He also acknowledged it. Crazy to mess up call letters of a radio station. Who doesn't have them all memorized???

Regarding the Tobolowsky interview.  1) I have a LOT of vivid memories from my fifth year on earth. 2) I can't believe nobody has jumped on the fact that he referred to a woman as "an old colored woman."  Took me about five minutes to get my bearings after that.

The "Maron fucked up the call letters." was actually quoting what he said people were going to say.

At any rate I'm pretty convinced that his forgetfulness is deliberate. It's like what my mom does when she doesn't want to seem like she's totally down with everything that's going on.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on February 15, 2011, 03:36:14 AM
"KFMU"

Maron fucked up the call letters.

He also acknowledged it. Crazy to mess up call letters of a radio station. Who doesn't have them all memorized???

Regarding the Tobolowsky interview.  1) I have a LOT of vivid memories from my fifth year on earth. 2) I can't believe nobody has jumped on the fact that he referred to a woman as "an old colored woman."  Took me about five minutes to get my bearings after that.

The "Maron fucked up the call letters." was actually quoting what he said people were going to say.

At any rate I'm pretty convinced that his forgetfulness is deliberate. It's like what my mom does when she doesn't want to seem like she's totally down with everything that's going on.

Ha, I'm a moron.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on February 15, 2011, 07:16:25 PM
Great interview.

My favorite stuff is about Tom talking about Bob Grant's influence on him. It's not something you'd expect -- Bob Grant was Rush Limbaugh before Rush Limbaugh was Rush Limbaugh -- but it makes complete and total sense after he explains it.

It was also a little surprising to hear that Stern was an influence, but like Grant it made total sense when he explained it. Then again I also recall Ira Glass doing an interview where he said  he was influenced by Stern so I guess his influence is more widespread than you'd think.

I also thought it was kind of funny that not once did Tom resort to "toilet talk." Tom apppears to have a genuine aversion to cursing.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on February 15, 2011, 10:01:04 PM
Tom apppears to have a genuine aversion to cursing.

He's gone blue on Twitter once in a great while.  I believe him that "in front of a microphone" is the bright line.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on February 16, 2011, 12:36:56 AM
Tom apppears to have a genuine aversion to cursing.

He's gone blue on Twitter once in a great while.  I believe him that "in front of a microphone" is the bright line.

A radio mike, maybe.  Watch the Merge celebration intros.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Greggulator on February 16, 2011, 10:37:03 AM
Great interview.

My favorite stuff is about Tom talking about Bob Grant's influence on him. It's not something you'd expect -- Bob Grant was Rush Limbaugh before Rush Limbaugh was Rush Limbaugh -- but it makes complete and total sense after he explains it.

It was also a little surprising to hear that Stern was an influence, but like Grant it made total sense when he explained it. Then again I also recall Ira Glass doing an interview where he said  he was influenced by Stern so I guess his influence is more widespread than you'd think.

I also thought it was kind of funny that not once did Tom resort to "toilet talk." Tom apppears to have a genuine aversion to cursing.

I don't think it's possible to have a longform comedy radio show without being influenced by Howard. And Howard was completely unavoidable for everyone in the NYC radio market when he was breaking out.

Tom's a different comedian with a different sense of humor. But the reason why both shows work is because the crux of each show is Tom/Howard's interactions and relationships with callers/staff. Both are also great with guests -- Howard's an amazing interviewer (his interview with Paul McCartney was amazing) and Tom has a natural rapport with Paul F., Patton, Hodgman, Paul Scheer, Ted, etc and they just click. And both also have great bits -- the Scharpling/Wurster stuff is brilliant and I really love Sal and Richard's phone calls (which probably reveals my immaturity).

Howard does use the smutty stuff as a crutch and it's lazy (hence why it's ripped off by so many untalented goofs) but he's still really awesome at what he does.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bernard on February 16, 2011, 01:27:18 PM
Great point, Greggulator.  As a (fairly) long-time Stern fan, I've been turned off recently with the smutty stuff; it's not b/c I'm offended or "shocked" by it; I just don't find it all that funny.  I still listen mostly everyday though.  I wonder what Tom thinks of the Stern Show today vs. 10 years ago, or even 5 years ago, when they first moved to Sirius.  I feel like it wasn't as filthy when the show first started on satellite.

Anyway, I read an interview with Tom where he talked about the long-form radio bit, and how it's a dying art.  Stern's always been quite good with longer bits, and using the medium in brilliant ways, while still keeping the audience interested (I think this is why the Stern radio show is better than the Stern TV segments - when you have the ability to see behind the curtain, it takes away a certain element of surprise and imagination that radio offers).  The show - the longer bits, the cast of characters, the idea that Stern, on air, is a bit of an exaggerated version of himself in real life - has definitely influenced people in radio today.  NPR sidenote: Besides Ira Glass, I think Terry Gross has mentioned she's a fan of the show, too.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on February 17, 2011, 05:59:26 PM
Two things:

1. I don't know that Stern's smuttiness is so much out of laziness, as much as it's out of the fact that he knows there's a certain segment of the population that pays for him, tuning in just to hear that kind of stuff. It's that smutty stuff that brings in the lions share of his subscribers - it's keeping him fed, and allowing him to keep doing all the other stuff.

2. Check out Tom's first appearance on Am I Right?? - he goes a bit more into his opinions on Stern and how they've changed over the past years... Before Maron even mentioned it!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on February 18, 2011, 05:42:40 AM

I don't think it's possible to have a longform comedy radio show without being influenced by Howard. And Howard was completely unavoidable for everyone in the NYC radio market when he was breaking out.


I started listening to Stern when he was in DC  - '80? '81? - he was massive, right away. I think he was barely in DC for a year or two before he got in trouble and eventually headed up to NYC, but even then he was pure genius ... as much a comedy influence on me as Python SNL SCTV, weird old comedy records etc etc that I was slurping up. Me and my friends would talk constantly about the shit he said that morning. He would do bits, for crying out loud.

Depending on where I lived and how far Stern was syndicating at that point, I would always check him out if I could - does anyone remember his silly show on WOR? Even in the last days of the terrestrial tenure, if you managed to catch the show before they started in on a 20 minute block of commercials and he didn't have a porn star in the studio, he was insanely funny, like even just teeing off of Robin's news stories. Half a dozen things off of the news wire would take half an hour to get through, and you'd be sad when it was over.

It's weird to see people's reactions to Stern now, especially if it seems they really only have the massive horndog version of Stern to go off of.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bernard on February 18, 2011, 09:35:29 AM
2. Check out Tom's first appearance on Am I Right?? - he goes a bit more into his opinions on Stern and how they've changed over the past years... Before Maron even mentioned it!

I will do this!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on February 18, 2011, 11:45:14 AM
I just realized I have to post it - it's from pre-podcast days... I will dig it up this weekend for you.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bernard on February 18, 2011, 04:47:03 PM
thanks, i'd really like to hear it.  i've always been interested on stern's influence on my favorite shows.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: colonel panic on February 18, 2011, 04:52:13 PM
Holy cow, that Gallagher episode get's spirited right off the bat. "Where's MY reality show?". I kind of wonder the same thing; Gallagher and reality TV seems like a natural pairing.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on February 18, 2011, 05:19:35 PM
He would have had one, he was just out of town when they called to offer it...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on February 20, 2011, 06:18:53 PM
No discussion of the PFT episode??? Shocking!  I loved it.  I've heard Sir Tompkins on many a podcast, and he's a fairly open book on a lot of them (C&EE, especially) but I found this one particularly enlightening and endearing for my own reasons. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on February 20, 2011, 06:24:31 PM
Holy cow, that Gallagher episode get's spirited right off the bat. "Where's MY reality show?". I kind of wonder the same thing; Gallagher and reality TV seems like a natural pairing.

A reality show might be too much for me. I can imagine Gallagher's residence similar to that old man's from Best Worst Movie: Weird stuffed animals and classroom posters everywhere, pictures of his own colon up on the wall, etc.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 20, 2011, 10:16:15 PM
No discussion of the PFT episode??? Shocking!  I loved it.  I've heard Sir Tompkins on many a podcast, and he's a fairly open book on a lot of them (C&EE, especially) but I found this one particularly enlightening and endearing for my own reasons.

My wife suggests a drinking game for those who haven't yet listened to that episode where one takes a drink every time PFT or Maron says 'Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah.'

I did really enjoy the episode - it covers some ground that hasn't been covered in the other podcast appearances. I liked hearing more about the early, pre-famous days of PFT.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Greggulator on February 21, 2011, 02:14:31 PM

I don't think it's possible to have a longform comedy radio show without being influenced by Howard. And Howard was completely unavoidable for everyone in the NYC radio market when he was breaking out.


I would always check him out if I could - does anyone remember his silly show on WOR?

The WOR show was amazing. I don't know how I'd feel about Homeless Hollywood Squares today but at the time I thought it was the absolute best thing ever on television.

My favorite Stern TV moment is his appearance on The Magic Hour. Stern's obsession with The Magic Hour is some of my favorite things he's ever done.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 10, 2011, 10:08:00 AM
Finally listening to the Maron episode with Tom. I imagine he nearly swallowed his tongue when Maron, speaking of Tim and Eric, said "I get it, they;re kind of like Zappa".
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on March 15, 2011, 04:53:48 PM
Has anyone listened to the Kathleen Madigan episode? I'm checking it out now. She is one of my absolute favorites - she is incredibly funny and has been around since forever.

Also want to listen to the Krassner ep ... I am over scheduled so I can't listen to 9/10 of the podcasts I have on my ipod.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Denim Gremlin on March 15, 2011, 04:56:40 PM
Has anyone listened to the Kathleen Madigan episode? I'm checking it out now. She is one of my absolute favorites - she is incredibly funny and has been around since forever.

Also want to listen to the Krassner ep ... I am over scheduled so I can't listen to 9/10 of the podcasts I have on my ipod.

I liked the Kathleen Madigan episode alot. she tells some funny and weird stories about her relationship with lewis black


after listening to the latest episode of comedy death ray radio I'd love for Marc to interview Paul Reubens

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 15, 2011, 05:18:09 PM
Man, that Dino Stamatopolous episode couldn't end fast enough.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on March 15, 2011, 05:18:36 PM
Has anyone listened to the Kathleen Madigan episode? I'm checking it out now. She is one of my absolute favorites - she is incredibly funny and has been around since forever.

Also want to listen to the Krassner ep ... I am over scheduled so I can't listen to 9/10 of the podcasts I have on my ipod.

The Krassner episode was one of my least favorites. I still enjoyed it, but I guess I'm just not as interested in hearing stories about Lenny Bruce (whose comedy still doesn't make me laugh, no matter how important or subvervise he was), which is a big part of the conversation.

I'm not at all familiar with Madigan's comedy, but I liked her episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 15, 2011, 05:23:00 PM
Has anyone listened to the Kathleen Madigan episode? I'm checking it out now. She is one of my absolute favorites - she is incredibly funny and has been around since forever.

Also want to listen to the Krassner ep ... I am over scheduled so I can't listen to 9/10 of the podcasts I have on my ipod.

The Krassner episode was one of my least favorites. I still enjoyed it, but I guess I'm just not as interested in hearing stories about Lenny Bruce (whose comedy still doesn't make me laugh, no matter how important or subvervise he was), which is a big part of the conversation.

I'm not at all familiar with Madigan's comedy, but I liked her episode.

With the Krassner episode, he did cover a lot of stuff I had read in his autobiography, but to me I actually like those stories to the point where I don't mind some re-telling. Having read about Lenny Bruce and what he was about and what he did I have a lot of respect for the guy. I also confess to having some hippie tendencies and a lot of admiration for Krassner, too, so I liked the episode a lot really.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on March 15, 2011, 05:37:40 PM
Man, that Dino Stamatopolous episode couldn't end fast enough.

Not a big Dino fan? I think he's great.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Denim Gremlin on March 15, 2011, 05:58:37 PM
Man, that Dino Stamatopolous episode couldn't end fast enough.

Not a big Dino fan? I think he's great.

yeah I liked it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 15, 2011, 08:30:38 PM
Man, that Dino Stamatopolous episode couldn't end fast enough.

Reminded me a lot of the Jim Norton episode. What a pustule on the heiny of humanity.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fish on March 15, 2011, 08:38:46 PM
after listening to the latest episode of comedy death ray radio I'd love for Marc to interview Paul Reubens

I have a feeling Marc wouldn't be as gracious an interviewer as Hot Saucerman.  He tends to be disrespectful to people he doesn't see as "real comedians."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on March 15, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
Also want to listen to the Krassner ep ... I am over scheduled so I can't listen to 9/10 of the podcasts I have on my ipod.

I really enjoyed the Krassner interview and it's one of the few "WTF" episodes I didn't delete from my iTunes so I can re-listen to it. Other comments are correct that he dwells a bit too much on Lenny Bruce, but Krassner's great. I've loved the guy ever since I read "Confessions of a Raving, Unconfined Nut" during my college years...


Reminded me a lot of the Jim Norton episode. What a pustule on the heiny of humanity.

Oh, man... The Jim Norton episode... I'll have to jog my memory on that one. I recall listening to it but I don't recall much. This means I didn't like it nearly as much as... say the Robin Williams episode (kudos for Maron not letting Williams do his typical schtick and for getting some serious conversation) or the follow-up to the Mencia interview but not as loathsome as the episodes I couldn't finish. Of the later category the two that really come to mind are the Ben Stiller episode (which really could have been helped had Maron included the adio of him unzipping Stiller's fly with his teethO) and those noxious "Comedey Movie Nerds" or whomever those pricks were that talked about the Oscars in between laughing uncontrollably at nothing whatsoever. Assholes loke those guys are the reason I detest morning radio shows...

ETA: Ok, I just looked him up. Yeah, it seems like that was another episode I couldn't endure...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on March 15, 2011, 08:44:11 PM
after listening to the latest episode of comedy death ray radio I'd love for Marc to interview Paul Reubens

I have a feeling Marc wouldn't be as gracious an interviewer as Hot Saucerman.  He tends to be disrespectful to people he doesn't see as "real comedians."

Or, "cahmics."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 16, 2011, 05:44:10 AM
"Oh sure, I talk publicly about the most disgusting sorts of sexual practices involving things like, oh, I don't know, shit? BUT AT LEAST I'M BEING HONEST WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!"

Also want to listen to the Krassner ep ... I am over scheduled so I can't listen to 9/10 of the podcasts I have on my ipod.

I really enjoyed the Krassner interview and it's one of the few "WTF" episodes I didn't delete from my iTunes so I can re-listen to it. Other comments are correct that he dwells a bit too much on Lenny Bruce, but Krassner's great. I've loved the guy ever since I read "Confessions of a Raving, Unconfined Nut" during my college years...


Reminded me a lot of the Jim Norton episode. What a pustule on the heiny of humanity.

Oh, man... The Jim Norton episode... I'll have to jog my memory on that one. I recall listening to it but I don't recall much. This means I didn't like it nearly as much as... say the Robin Williams episode (kudos for Maron not letting Williams do his typical schtick and for getting some serious conversation) or the follow-up to the Mencia interview but not as loathsome as the episodes I couldn't finish. Of the later category the two that really come to mind are the Ben Stiller episode (which really could have been helped had Maron included the adio of him unzipping Stiller's fly with his teethO) and those noxious "Comedey Movie Nerds" or whomever those pricks were that talked about the Oscars in between laughing uncontrollably at nothing whatsoever. Assholes loke those guys are the reason I detest morning radio shows...

ETA: Ok, I just looked him up. Yeah, it seems like that was another episode I couldn't endure...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 16, 2011, 09:05:00 AM
Man, that Dino Stamatopolous episode couldn't end fast enough.

Not a big Dino fan? I think he's great.

I liked Moral Orel, but I was pretty tired of Dino by the end of that interview. Great, you got your d*** burned. Noted. Now let's go through a checklist of shows you did or didn't work on. OK great. You do that show on Adult Swim I watched 1/2 an episode of? OK great. See ya.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on March 16, 2011, 10:51:48 AM
Harsh. And comparing Dino to Jim Norton is just heresy. That guy is a real mutant.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 16, 2011, 10:56:12 AM
I found the Jim Norton episode more listenable. The guy at least fully commits to what he is...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hearts of Steele on March 16, 2011, 11:12:25 AM
I just started listing to WTF (Paul Scheer, Aziz Ansari, Tom Lennon, and Doug Benson episodes) and I kinda love it. Maron is hilariously grating.

I just realized I had heard him once before - Ted Leo performed on Morning Sedition around the time Shake The Sheets was released (the end of 2004). I'm almost certain listening to Maron drove me a little nuts.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on March 16, 2011, 08:15:46 PM
Yeah, Maron can have that effect on people. But he can be pretty goddamn funny as well. His last recording was quite good...

For some reason one of my favorite episodes was the Jon Benjamin episode. I just thought the two of them discussing what a "bully" (Benjamin's term, I believe) Sam Seder can be struck me as being hilarious...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 16, 2011, 09:52:29 PM
I found the Jim Norton episode more listenable. The guy at least fully commits to what he is...

Hey Jim Norton, whatever you and a consenting adult want to do with a pile of feces is your business. But it's YOUR business.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pastor Josh on March 17, 2011, 02:25:33 PM
One thing I have learned about myself, thanks to Marc Maron, is that I find nothing as completely uninteresting as someone else's sex life.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 17, 2011, 03:18:24 PM
File it in the same cabinet as 'dream descriptions' and 'recaps of children's soccer games' and 'recaps of soccer games'.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dcgut on March 17, 2011, 04:12:15 PM
I think Dino is an important comedy writer and I've been a fan for years, but I'm not interested in sex stories or glamorizing alcohol use.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rhymes with Don Draper on March 17, 2011, 05:18:47 PM
I think Dino is an important comedy writer and I've been a fan for years, but I'm not interested in sex stories or glamorizing alcohol use.

I agree. I think Stamatopolous has an interesting enough career that is relatively unknown for an interviewer to not bring up his personal life.

If there's one issue I have with Marc Maron's interview style, which is otherwise excellent, it's that he's sometimes too interested in the personal lives of his interviewees because he wants to  find a way to commiserate with or vicariously live through them.  But it just seems indicative of Maron's default view of comedy, which is "this is the form in which personal pain and truth gets processed into something that is meaningfully funny and we should all spill our guts to do so."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hearts of Steele on March 18, 2011, 09:39:44 AM
Yeah, Maron can have that effect on people. But he can be pretty goddamn funny as well. His last recording was quite good...

I know. I can't stop listening to WTF. He's such a lovable dick (ex. to Patton Oswalt: "I can't figure out what it is that annoys me about you."). I just finished The Rob Corddry, Patton, and Henry Rollins episodes. I working my way up to the Scharpling interview. I can't wait.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 18, 2011, 05:03:08 PM
Yeah, Maron can have that effect on people. But he can be pretty goddamn funny as well. His last recording was quite good...

I know. I can't stop listening to WTF. He's such a lovable dick (ex. to Patton Oswalt: "I can't figure out what it is that annoys me about you."). I just finished The Rob Corddry, Patton, and Henry Rollins episodes. I working my way up to the Scharpling interview. I can't wait.

Scharpling interview is sincerely entertaining and illuminating, whether I need to kiss up to Tom or not.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on March 19, 2011, 05:32:47 PM
I like to put my ipod up my ass and listen to WTF anally. What?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Sploops on March 19, 2011, 06:51:11 PM
I like to put my ipod up my ass and listen to WTF anally. What?

Wouldn't it work better if you put the earbuds up there instead of the ipod itself?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on March 19, 2011, 06:58:19 PM
I like to put my ipod up my ass and listen to WTF anally. What?

Wouldn't it work better if you put the earbuds up there instead of the ipod itself?
Sploops, are you a scientist, physician or logician?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Sploops on March 19, 2011, 09:06:46 PM
I like to put my ipod up my ass and listen to WTF anally. What?

Wouldn't it work better if you put the earbuds up there instead of the ipod itself?
Sploops, are you a scientist, physician or logician?

All three, bro.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on March 20, 2011, 12:39:17 AM
oops, I meant my iphone. it has bass boost. why?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on March 22, 2011, 03:05:42 PM
oops, I meant my iphone. it has bass boost. why?

No problem there. Many people are born with "ass ossicle syndrome"...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ChipSuey on March 22, 2011, 03:09:32 PM
So has anyone heard the Carollo interview?  I felt like I ended up with Stockholm syndrome by the end.  I was sympathizing with him by the end of it. 

I didn't like that. 

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on March 22, 2011, 07:25:56 PM
So has anyone heard the Carollo interview?  I felt like I ended up with Stockholm syndrome by the end.  I was sympathizing with him by the end of it. 

I didn't like that.

Dave from K-ville waved me off of from that one.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hearts of Steele on March 25, 2011, 04:00:16 PM
I'm hooked. What I like about the show is that Maron usually has some beef with his guest and he realizes halfway through that his beef is really with himself. Every time. I like the self-realization.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on March 25, 2011, 05:52:40 PM
I'm hooked. What I like about the show is that Maron usually has some beef with his guest and he realizes halfway through that his beef is really with himself. Every time. I like the self-realization.

I think that's kind of annoying, but still kind of funny how he apparently had a beef with everybody.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: benjo on March 26, 2011, 02:41:25 AM
So has anyone heard the Carollo interview?  I felt like I ended up with Stockholm syndrome by the end.  I was sympathizing with him by the end of it. 

I didn't like that.

oh my god, yeah.  it simultaneously made me empathize with him and recoil from him - kind of like the wild whites.

i was almost liking him until he started in with that crypto-racist shark stuff.  "there's certain species of sharks we stay away from, so why shouldn't we stay away from certain kinds of people?"  i kept waiting for him to clarify that he didn't mean certain ethnicities of people didn't correspond to species of sharks, but he clearly didn't.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Pidgeon on March 26, 2011, 12:46:46 PM
We get it Marc, corporations are bad.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on March 27, 2011, 01:11:41 PM
Bobby Slayton's grasp on concepts like literacy in America are just stunning.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 27, 2011, 09:58:49 PM
I liked Carolla's story about the carpenter guy. 'I can do it all!' 'No, you can't, or you wouldn't be here, you would be doing it.'
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on March 28, 2011, 12:33:54 PM
I'm several weeks behind & pickin' and choosin' at this point ... anyone heard the Tom Rhodes ep? I always loved that guy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on March 28, 2011, 01:28:15 PM
I'm several weeks behind & pickin' and choosin' at this point ... anyone heard the Tom Rhodes ep? I always loved that guy.

If you like him, the episode is well worth it. I wasn't really familiar with him but I enjoyed the episode. Lots of crazy road stories.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on March 28, 2011, 01:41:55 PM
I'm several weeks behind & pickin' and choosin' at this point ... anyone heard the Tom Rhodes ep? I always loved that guy.

If you like him, the episode is well worth it. I wasn't really familiar with him but I enjoyed the episode. Lots of crazy road stories.

Imagine if Wooderson from Dazed & Confused stopped hanging around with high schoolers & became a stand up comedian.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ChipSuey on March 30, 2011, 05:36:17 PM
I've sort of winced through three interviews now (Carollo, Slayton, Rogan), so I'm kind of looking forward to the Conan interview next week. 
I don't why I do this to myself, listening all the way through.  I think it's mostly because I listen at work, so it's not a huge time loss or anything. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on April 01, 2011, 08:30:37 AM
Showalter interview----CRINGE WORTHY at times.  He actually said, and I quote, "I wanted to go to Brown because I was tired of being the smartest person in the room."

I really, really don't like this dude. 

I really, really love Wet Hot American Summer. 

I really, really don't give a shit about the State. 

A cockfight of feelings, right here. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on April 01, 2011, 09:02:02 AM
The one time I saw Showalter perform, as part of a Eugene Mirman package, he was rrrrrreally unfunny.  He seemed unprepared, like he thought he could just get up onstage and wing it.

Dude--there's a reason that's a common nightmare: It usually just doesn't work very well.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Stupornaut on April 01, 2011, 10:47:48 AM
The one time I saw Showalter perform, as part of a Eugene Mirman package, he was rrrrrreally unfunny.  He seemed unprepared, like he thought he could just get up onstage and wing it.

Dude--there's a reason that's a common nightmare: It usually just doesn't work very well.

I hope this one time was the (sort of) ill-fated comedy stage at last year's Pitchfork Festival, since the stage was close enough to the music stage to have a lot of sonic interference. Hannibal Buress took it in stride (he had a great joke about being mad enough over the music volume to start "the most obscure beef ever" with Liars) and Mirman killed it, but the setup seemed to shake Showalter into this total state of trainwreck passive-aggressive surliness. If that's what he's like in a normal comedy club situation, I don't know what to say other than maybe "eesh".
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on April 01, 2011, 10:51:32 AM
Naw, it was at Prospect Park last summer.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on April 01, 2011, 12:00:17 PM
I really liked the Showalter interview and didn't at any point find it cringeworthy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on April 01, 2011, 12:10:57 PM
As usual, I am 8 episodes behind.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on April 01, 2011, 01:53:39 PM
I really liked the Showalter interview and didn't at any point find it cringeworthy.

I'm with Martin. Although I'm only about 15 minutes in, I wanna give the dude a hug.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Boogdish on April 02, 2011, 10:31:32 AM
I saw Showalter in Austin on his first comedy tour.  The show had been advertised as starting an hour earlier than it did, so he went out 45 minutes before he was supposed to and improvised and interacted with the crowd; it was fun, though not particularly funny and a really nice thing to do. 

Unfortunately, when his "real set" started, he couldn't get the crowd under control after he'd been asking them to shout things to him and he couldn't handle it.  Bombed hard.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on April 03, 2011, 09:52:16 PM
Well, after listening to the Showalter episode I can say that it made me like him more than seeing him perform did. Not love him, but he seemed like an OK dude. I bear no ill will toward the eggheads, having aborted an academic career myself.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on April 04, 2011, 05:56:06 PM
So, the Conan episode was awesome.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SJK on April 04, 2011, 07:43:22 PM
Agreed. Conan is top shelf!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fish on April 04, 2011, 07:46:59 PM
What's Marc gonna do when he runs out of guests?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SJK on April 04, 2011, 08:02:19 PM
He said he was gonna expand his guest roster to include people not necessarily involved in the entertainment industry. He cited a WTF episode he did with a childhood friend who worked on some part of the Hubble space telescope, during an interview on All Things Considered.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on April 04, 2011, 08:04:13 PM
Oh yeah, I seem to remember he had a psychologist on once.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on April 04, 2011, 08:18:03 PM
I liked hearing Conan in non-manic mode.

I'd like to hear him do some more "on the road" type shows -- like a more abrasive version of Charles Kuralt.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on April 04, 2011, 10:03:46 PM
Conan seems like a good dude.

I really think Maron is doing a great culture-historical service by getting all these people to open up so much for the microphone.  Not that people are going to care, 50 years from now, what was going on with 95% of them, but with the ones (like Conan and Tom) who people will still find interesting (in the way that we find, I don't know, Ted Healy interesting)*, Maron is creating an archive that will have lasting value.

By the way, after the last Best Show I was bored so I googled Ted Healy.  Did you know that the Three Stooges once did business as "The Three Lost Souls"?  I almost wish they'd stuck with that (except that Iggy and the Ashetons probably wouldn't have found it very appropriate and we would have missed out on one of the best band names ever).



* I don't mean to equate Tom with Ted Healy.  I'm probably trying to pack too much disparate shit into one post.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on April 04, 2011, 11:02:11 PM
Iggy and The Lost Souls sounds  interesting to me.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on April 05, 2011, 12:36:58 AM
Iggy and The Lost Souls sounds  interesting to me.

It's not bad, but to me it sounds more like some C-level acid-burnout band (who might, admittedly, have put out one fascinating album), where "The Stooges" is a mighty name to be reckoned with like Godzilla.  I don't hate the Three Stooges (don't love 'em either, though I will admit that the "nyuk-nyuk-nyuk VOOB VOOB VOOB Hey Moe! Soitenly!" vocal stylings often crack me up), but generally I do think their greatest contribution to American culture was the monicker Iggy and his boys picked.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Chris L on April 05, 2011, 03:32:53 AM
He said he was gonna expand his guest roster to include people not necessarily involved in the entertainment industry. He cited a WTF episode he did with a childhood friend who worked on some part of the Hubble space telescope, during an interview on All Things Considered.

"For some reason I always asssumed that telescope hated me."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SJK on April 05, 2011, 04:25:45 AM
Is that a direct quote from Mr. Maron? Seems like something he would say.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on April 05, 2011, 08:17:15 AM
So, the Conan episode was awesome.

No joke.  That was, through and through, absolutely great.  Conan fended off the self-loathing, and kept that interview on the rails.  I loved it.  An ivy league dude who didn't gross me out, either, which was nice. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on April 05, 2011, 09:34:54 AM
Conan seems like a good dude.

I really think Maron is doing a great culture-historical service by getting all these people to open up so much for the microphone.  Not that people are going to care, 50 years from now, what was going on with 95% of them, but with the ones (like Conan and Tom) who people will still find interesting (in the way that we find, I don't know, Ted Healy interesting)*, Maron is creating an archive that will have lasting value.

By the way, after the last Best Show I was bored so I googled Ted Healy.  Did you know that the Three Stooges once did business as "The Three Lost Souls"?  I almost wish they'd stuck with that (except that Iggy and the Ashetons probably wouldn't have found it very appropriate and we would have missed out on one of the best band names ever).



* I don't mean to equate Tom with Ted Healy.  I'm probably trying to pack too much disparate shit into one post.

I like the idea of a 'Three Lost Souls' movie opening with that 'Three Blind Mice' theme. 'Three Lost Souls, Three Lost Souls...'
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 09, 2011, 04:13:24 PM
This week's Jonathan Winters interview is a must if you have any affection for the man at all.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ChipSuey on May 09, 2011, 05:10:05 PM
This week's Jonathan Winters interview is a must if you have any affection for the man at all.

That one was pretty fascinating.  His precision was incredible.  He's absolutely one of the masters of the form.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: scratchbomb on May 10, 2011, 09:15:47 AM
This week's Jonathan Winters interview is a must if you have any affection for the man at all.

Great stuff. I noticed that though he sounded a little old and distant when just talking, he immediately brightened up whenever doing a bit. It's amazing to me that he was doing stuff like that back in the 60s. I can't imagine how anyone could handle it; clearly, Winters couldn't for many years...

He was involved in one of my most beloved shows ever, a cartoon version of Ed Grimley that ran for one lone season (no, really). He did a whole slew of great voices, including Ed's landlord Mr. Freebus. There's one episode where Mr. Freebus is distraught over his wife leaving him, and says one of my favorite lines in anything ever: "It's all my fault, Ed--although I do blame others."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on May 10, 2011, 09:52:40 AM
"It's all my fault, Ed--although I do blame others."

I am so gonna appropriate that.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on May 11, 2011, 08:16:33 PM
I've never been able to stomach Johnathan Winters but I'm curious about the interview. I'll try much luck and give it a shot. It can't be any worse than Maron's interview with Ben Stiller, a real low point for a guy who's turning into a pretty damn good interviewer...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on May 12, 2011, 02:19:13 PM
This week's Jonathan Winters interview is a must if you have any affection for the man at all.

That one was pretty fascinating.  His precision was incredible.  He's absolutely one of the masters of the form.

Competitive eating?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on May 12, 2011, 06:47:23 PM
Maron's interview with Sally Wade about George Carlin's last years was a moving show. Sounds like he was a really sweet guy in his personal life (in marked contrast to his nasty onstage persona).

... but all that aside, I kinda wish they had devoted the entire episode to something that was discussed all too briefly: In the 1970s, young sitcom writer Sally Wade received an assignment to hang out with the Doobie Brothers so she could get their "vibe", prior to building a "What's Happening" episode around them.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 13, 2011, 10:13:37 AM
I started out not really enjoying the Sally Wade interview, but I was wiping away tears by the end. It's crazy to think how different he was offstage.

In the Am I Right interview with Maron, he mentions that he recently interview Garry Shandling. I can't wait to hear that.

Although it seem unlikely to ever happen, I'd love to hear Maron interview Albert Brooks.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on May 13, 2011, 01:15:32 PM
When Jesse first sent me the Maron interview (which I wasn't able to sit in on), I immediately stopped listening to call him to see if Maron had mentioned anything more about that Shandling interview off mic. I CAN NOT WAIT for that one.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 19, 2011, 10:52:55 AM
If you have access to the full WTF archives, I highly recommend the Jim Gaffigan interview from early on (I think it's one of the first 10 or 20 episodes). Maron's still getting his sealegs as an interviewer and it's much shorter than the interviews he does now, but it's a really great conversation. Gaffigan is really great at talking about comedy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Denim Gremlin on May 19, 2011, 02:05:11 PM
I'd love to here him talk to Stephen Fry. Not only do I think it would be entertaining to hear those two personalities go up against each other because they seem so different but I think they'd actually have tons to talk about. Like his battles with bi polar disorder (including the infamous Belgium incident), growing up Jewish in England, his struggles with his sexuality.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 19, 2011, 02:47:22 PM
People here sure love Dock Ellis.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Denim Gremlin on May 19, 2011, 02:51:04 PM
People here sure love Dock Ellis.

hahaha do they?  I think it's just me, my avatar and I posted that video.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on May 19, 2011, 02:52:12 PM
The tentacles of the Jesse Thorpe empire (http://maximumfun.org/2011/05/17/wtf-public-radio-show) are beginning to get a bit too ... tentacly, for my taste.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on May 19, 2011, 02:53:32 PM
PRX presents: What the E.L. Fudge.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 19, 2011, 05:29:59 PM
The Shandling episode goes up on Monday.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on May 19, 2011, 07:53:04 PM
The Shandling episode goes up on Monday.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SoSure on May 20, 2011, 02:17:40 AM
. Gaffigan is really great at talking about comedy.

I don't remember anything specific, but I really enjoyed his episode of one of the early Nerdist podcasts.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 20, 2011, 09:13:33 AM
People here sure love Dock Ellis.

hahaha do they?  I think it's just me, my avatar and I posted that video.

Master of Spark's avatar, too, with his famous rollers. Anyhow I loved the video and the story of his LSD No-hitter.

Now back to Marc Maron...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: effecT on May 23, 2011, 02:01:32 PM
Garry Shandling seems like a very likable guy. I was really interested to see if he was going to be as detached and acerbic as with Ricky Gervais. But he wasn't and it was a great listen.
Thumbs up to Shandling.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 23, 2011, 10:37:46 PM
I'm glad people mentioned the Sally Wade interview. Honestly I had fallen behind and deleted it, not knowing who she was. I went back and listened to it, and am glad I did. I've always been a Carlin fan and have to part ways with Tom on that one.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on May 24, 2011, 11:14:39 AM
Garry Shandling seems like a very likable guy. I was really interested to see if he was going to be as detached and acerbic as with Ricky Gervais. But he wasn't and it was a great listen.
Thumbs up to Shandling.

His realism was super, super refreshing.  The "missing something not playing basketball" response, for instance, was so poignant. 

I loved this episode.  I'm a late-comer to the Larry Sanders Show, but this is undoubtedly the greatest tv show I've ever seen.   I was happy he spoke so lovingly about it. 

Good one, Mr. Maron!  Props where props are due!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on May 25, 2011, 11:59:18 AM
Yes, Gary Shandling came off not only as a good dude but as a wise man.  I never actually saw The Larry Sanders show, but it's streaming on Netflix and I shall correct this stat.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on May 26, 2011, 10:38:18 AM
Maron is on CBC's Q this morning, podcast to follow later on today.

Could be either the best- or worst-ever interview. I'm excited.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: orator on May 29, 2011, 02:45:50 AM
Shandling was great. His Charlie Sheen/America analogy was brilliant.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rhymes with Don Draper on May 29, 2011, 03:42:06 AM
Garry Shandling seems like a very likable guy. I was really interested to see if he was going to be as detached and acerbic as with Ricky Gervais. But he wasn't and it was a great listen.
Thumbs up to Shandling.

I've wondered what was really going on with that interview. It seems as though Shandling just didn't like Gervais.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: effecT on May 29, 2011, 03:49:51 AM
Garry Shandling seems like a very likable guy. I was really interested to see if he was going to be as detached and acerbic as with Ricky Gervais. But he wasn't and it was a great listen.
Thumbs up to Shandling.

I've wondered what was really going on with that interview. It seems as though Shandling just didn't like Gervais.

I was listening to the episode with that in mind and I simply think that Shandling didn't like Gervais as a stand-up and as a comedian in general. Gervais listed Shandling as one of his biggest influences and Shandling probably felt ripped off...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Chris L on May 29, 2011, 08:35:41 AM
Shandling explained that thing w/ Gervais on this page of the long GQ profile of him last year.  Although I continue to hope the real answer is that he just couldn't stand him.

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/humor/201008/comedy-issue/comedy-issue-garry-shandling?currentPage=5 (http://www.gq.com/entertainment/humor/201008/comedy-issue/comedy-issue-garry-shandling?currentPage=5)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: effecT on May 29, 2011, 09:01:42 AM
Shandling explained that thing w/ Gervais on this page of the long GQ profile of him last year.  Although I continue to hope the real answer is that he just couldn't stand him.

[url]http://www.gq.com/entertainment/humor/201008/comedy-issue/comedy-issue-garry-shandling?currentPage=5[/url] ([url]http://www.gq.com/entertainment/humor/201008/comedy-issue/comedy-issue-garry-shandling?currentPage=5[/url])


Thanks for the article! Very enlightening.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 29, 2011, 11:05:26 AM
I mostly agree about the Byrne episode, but it did get interesting at the end when they addressed the Dane Cook feud. I'd recommend that part (I can't remember when it started, but probably the last 10-15 minutes of the episode).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: break on May 29, 2011, 01:56:42 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/marcmaron/status/74678409145483264 (http://twitter.com/#!/marcmaron/status/74678409145483264)

Tom will be a WTF Live guest at the 9pm Bell House show this week(6/1). 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rhymes with Don Draper on May 29, 2011, 02:06:05 PM
Shandling explained that thing w/ Gervais on this page of the long GQ profile of him last year.  Although I continue to hope the real answer is that he just couldn't stand him.

[url]http://www.gq.com/entertainment/humor/201008/comedy-issue/comedy-issue-garry-shandling?currentPage=5[/url] ([url]http://www.gq.com/entertainment/humor/201008/comedy-issue/comedy-issue-garry-shandling?currentPage=5[/url])


That's funny. Just like something that would happen on The Larry Sanders Show. (And I can imagine Artie saying "what is this cackling limey f*** think he's doing?" and Hank trying to convince the crew to make a documentary about his life.)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 29, 2011, 04:21:56 PM
[url]http://twitter.com/#[/url]!/marcmaron/status/74678409145483264 ([url]http://twitter.com/#[/url]!/marcmaron/status/74678409145483264)

Tom will be a WTF Live guest at the 9pm Bell House show this week(6/1).


!!!!! I hope this gets released.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on May 29, 2011, 06:58:11 PM
I mostly agree about the Byrne episode, but it did get interesting at the end when they addressed the Dane Cook feud. I'd recommend that part (I can't remember when it started, but probably the last 10-15 minutes of the episode).

Alright, I'll finish it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on May 30, 2011, 12:09:04 AM
I guess he's (Steve Byrne) not that bad.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 30, 2011, 05:37:43 PM
I found Byrne to be a pretty big snooze. White people have it so rough!

But Adam Carolla was an even bigger dipshit over the phone. Black people were late to a Broadway show that started at 7, therefore black people are always late? Never mind that almost every goddamn Broadway play starts at 8, or that when you're a racist everything confirms your prejudices.

Incidentally, a few years back my wife and I went to see an all-black Broadway show with a predominantly black audience, and it started at 7:30. Guess who was a half an hour late. I guess this means that white people are late to black stuff?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: wood and iron on May 30, 2011, 09:04:48 PM
I thought the Dan Harmon interview was pretty great. Interesting to hear stories about why he left the Sarah Silverman Program. I also like how hard he thinks about a sitcom. I appreciate that effort because I really love Community.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on May 30, 2011, 09:43:32 PM
I found Byrne to be a pretty big snooze. White people have it so rough!

But Adam Carolla was an even bigger dipshit over the phone. Black people were late to a Broadway show that started at 7, therefore black people are always late? Never mind that almost every goddamn Broadway play starts at 8, or that when you're a racist everything confirms your prejudices.

Incidentally, a few years back my wife and I went to see an all-black Broadway show with a predominantly black audience, and it started at 7:30. Guess who was a half an hour late. I guess this means that white people are late to black stuff?

I dunno, the stereotype does exist. Hence, the phrase CPT - Colored People's Time (which I DID NOT make up. I've probably heard black people I know use it more than anyone else.). Therefore, I can totally see the humor in the person onstage giving a monologue about forgetting every stereotype you've ever heard while people are filing in late.  He did acknowledge that the perception was entirely in his own head and he seemed to be the only one thinking it and was wrestling with it on some level.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 31, 2011, 07:35:36 AM
You're kinder than I am. I'm judging it more by the crypto-racist stuff he said the last time he was on WTF. Also, I'm just not a fan.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 31, 2011, 09:37:12 AM
I don't think Corollo is a particularly good interviewer. Back when I was listening to his show, he had an ex-mob guy on ('Kenji' Gallo), and at one point out of nowhere Corollo went into a 5 minute rant about how are automatic dishwashers any good when you have to rinse the dishes before you put them in there anyway. Not as bad as if he had Jerry Seinfeld on and they both riffed for 10 minutes on how come there's always a sock missing after you do laundry, I guess.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on May 31, 2011, 09:58:37 AM
Not as bad as when he had Jerry Seinfeld on and they both riffed for 10 minutes on how come there's always a sock missing after you do laundry, I guess.

I HAVE TO HEAR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 31, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Oh man I'm sorry, I made that up.

I really need to stop doing this.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Derek (from Chicago) on May 31, 2011, 10:56:13 AM
From Twitter this morning....

marcmaron marc maron
Going to hang out with @Scharpling tnite on The Best Show. Stoked. Did I just say 'stoked'. WTF. I'm psyched. Yeah. Psyched.


 8)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on May 31, 2011, 11:17:49 AM
Some one should cull all the questions from this thread and ask him on the air.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on May 31, 2011, 03:58:48 PM
Oh man I'm sorry, I made that up.

I really need to stop doing this.

I think we're all the better for that not actually happening, so we're cool.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on May 31, 2011, 04:03:33 PM
Also, will Tom call him Mort or Marc tonight?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on May 31, 2011, 04:15:59 PM
And what will he call the podcast?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 31, 2011, 04:16:17 PM
I think the main thing to not do tonight is ask him 'When are you gonna have ____ on your show?'...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on May 31, 2011, 04:46:58 PM
And what will he call the podcast?
Where's The Fudge?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on May 31, 2011, 05:08:52 PM
And what will he call the podcast?
Where's The Fudge?

This forum needs a "Like" button.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on May 31, 2011, 05:13:21 PM
And what will he call the podcast?
Where's The E.L. Fudge

(past precedent ... and something that made me giggle).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fish on May 31, 2011, 06:51:48 PM
I guess this thread is over now.  It's been real, you guys.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Betty Rooper on June 03, 2011, 02:56:32 AM
When Maron mentioned me at The Bell House, did he mention that six full months after I hilariously and anonymously criticized his podcast in this thread, he somehow tracked down my real name and then came at me via Facebook private message?!

I doubt it!  That wouldn't jibe with the whole "I'm not a crazy asshole anymore" thing his career resurgence seems to be based upon.

Fuck Marc Maron and his wildly overrated podcast.

And fuck you, Tom, for not sticking up for a 6-year-proponent and not-insignificant-contributor to this show ANY OF THE THREE TIMES Maron has brought me up publicly in your presence over the last year and a half -  on his show, on your show, and again at The Bell House.

Fuck many of you, FOT, not for disagreeing with my highly defendable opinion of the WTF podcast, but for responding to my personal feud with Maron by sending me hateful tweets, FB messages, and even text messages(!) over the last eighteen months.  That was time well spent.

And finally, fuck ME for wasting all this time on this once amazing community that has long since been overrun by hacks, kiss-asses, misanthropes, and dullard hipster attention-whores.   

I accept responsibility for my role in this, but that doesn't mean that the vast majority of you shouldn't blow me.

Good bye!

-David From DC
youtube.com/dorvidbarnas
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on June 03, 2011, 08:48:26 AM
did he mention that six full months after I hilariously and anonymously criticized his podcast in this thread

This is the kind of thing it's better to have others say about you than to say about yourself.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on June 03, 2011, 09:50:07 AM
I just kind of ignored the rant because it was so shrill and pointless. So long, David, and don't waste the gift of hilariousness you've been endowed with.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: AllSussedOut on June 03, 2011, 10:02:01 AM
I don't know that I've ever termed myself "David from DC"... but to be on the safe side, if I ever should... I think I'll be "David from Silver Spring."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on June 03, 2011, 01:13:45 PM
Dorvid's future guest appearance on WTF is pretty much inevitable at this point.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: TacoSmith on June 03, 2011, 04:21:49 PM
I don't know why I get some morbid thrill out of seeing these internet meltdowns. Don't worry Dorvid, I'm sure one day we'll all see the error of our ways. And THEN who'll be laughing? You! That's who!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Jillian Barberie on June 03, 2011, 06:49:11 PM
"And fuck you, Tom"

Fuck you, Tom???

Uh, no.

FUCK


YOU


DORVID


I've never said that to anybody on the internets, no matter how provoking.
Congrats for being that much of an ASS.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: David on June 03, 2011, 07:02:35 PM
Dorvid criticized a podcast he dislikes. Dorvid's mad we like Maron and madder at Tom for not liking Maron. Dorvid, a grown(?) man, needs us to stick up for his anonymous opinions (the bravest kind of opinions) that we disagree with. Why is Dorvid mad, again?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Denim Gremlin on June 03, 2011, 07:32:56 PM
I think some people forget that being a "friend of tom" doesn't actually mean you're a Tom's friend.

I know the community of fans here is tight, a lot of us have met and gotten to know each other and tom at various points but at the end of the day you're the fan of a fucking radio show, get over it. This isn't some religion or family or fraternity. If this show is so much of your identity that you feel betrayed by it and the rest of the fans for not having your back constantly you need to get a real fucking life.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ChipSuey on June 03, 2011, 07:52:13 PM
I haven't been an FOT or a board member for very long, but the time I've been on here has been characterized as nothing but good times.  To see it take such a nasty turn is a bummer.  What we have in common is our enjoyment of a radio show which pulls into its orbit a huge panoply (callback!) of pop culture references, which is what makes this board and the people on it so much fun. 

I say we move on from this and not feed any more negative energy into what is basically a waste of time.  I'm sorry to hear that Dorvid had such a bad experience with all this.  But it seems like somewhere along the line things went from "fun" for him to "deadly serious".  And I come here to get away from the "deadly serious" parts of daily living.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 03, 2011, 08:13:26 PM
I'm sorry to hear that Dorvid had such a bad experience with all this. 

Me too, sincerely. Dorvid's done some really great and funny stuff as a part of this loosely assembled group, but this over-reaction's at least as bad as Maron's reaction to him. I hope everybody can reign in the emotion explosions and we can get back to the funny.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on June 03, 2011, 08:22:57 PM
I heard Marc mention his trouble with an FOT during Tom's WTF appearance and again this Tuesday, but until Dorvid's meltdown, I didn't know who it was. Marc never got more specific than "one of your fans" as far as I know.

And I'm with ChipSuey on the "I come here to escape serious stuff" point. I've spent time on a few internet message boards, and inevitably the internet tough guy/trolling and/or "I'm quitting the internet!" meltdowns drive me away. This board largely seems to avoid these pitfalls. People are polite, as nice in person as in their posts (in my limited experience, anyway), and the drama factor is low. I really hope this incident is an outlier.

However, this is not the first time Dorvid has deleted his account and sworn off the board in a fit of rage or whatever. One of his former board names (there are several at this point) was "Barry Egan," which seems remarkably prescient in light of the most recent incident.

I should say that my interactions with Dorvid through personal message and chat have been very pleasant. I hope this was just some sort of drunken post made in the heat of passion.

OK, enough about this. Let's get back to the reason I like coming here.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on June 03, 2011, 09:02:22 PM
Who is Marc Maron?  I'm new to this board.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Chris L on June 03, 2011, 09:08:18 PM
I don't know that I've ever termed myself "David from DC"... but to be on the safe side, if I ever should... I think I'll be "David from Silver Spring."

AFI/Discovery Communications reprezent.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: pscan on June 03, 2011, 10:44:41 PM
I think that the point Dorvid is missing here is that the story that Marc Maron has told in these various venues has been about Marc's (self-described) over-the-top reaction to the anonymous criticism, not the actual criticism. Why this has to turn into a condemnation of Tom and this community is beyond me, but everyone has their reasons I suppose. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on June 03, 2011, 11:50:43 PM
Who is Marc Maron?  I'm new to this board.


Welcome to the FOT board, buffcoat! Hope this clears things up for you. (http://www.marthastewart.com/264900/about-marc-morrone)

(http://www.marthastewart.com/sites/files/marthastewart.com/images/content/tv/ms_living_tv/2007Q1/tvs7191_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on June 03, 2011, 11:54:08 PM
Who is Marc Maron?  I'm new to this board.


Welcome to the FOT board, buffcoat! Hope this clears things up for you. ([url]http://www.marthastewart.com/264900/about-marc-morrone[/url])

([url]http://www.marthastewart.com/sites/files/marthastewart.com/images/content/tv/ms_living_tv/2007Q1/tvs7191_l.jpg[/url])



Thanks so much DaveB!  I am so excited to be part of a new community where everyone is friendly and loves pets and the children of famous Italian movie scorers.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Sarah on June 04, 2011, 01:12:12 PM
I really hope this incident is an outlier.

Oh, you know it is.

Sincerely,

A Misanthrope
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Jason from Huntsville, AL on June 04, 2011, 02:51:21 PM
What the forum needs now is:

(http://www.pictoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/hug-kitten-mother.gif)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Sarah on June 04, 2011, 04:25:26 PM
You do realize that cat is just saying, in effect, "Calm the fuck down; I'm trying to sleep"?

Come to think of it, that may indeed be the message this board needs to hear.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on June 05, 2011, 11:23:59 AM
Was anyone else screaming at whatever device they were listening to the Dan Harmon episode about how Nothing's Shocking was Jane's Addiction's second album? 
If that isn't bad enough, I also had to do the math to deduce that Harmon would have been 17 at the youngest when he heard Ritual De Lo Habitual not 14 as he claimed. 

I've also been wary of Jen Kirkman's punk cred until I heard her story of choosing a Ramones show over her boyfriend on the Pod F. Tompkast. 

To quote WTF, "What's wrong with me?"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: One of the Few on June 06, 2011, 12:21:40 AM
Whether this board has gone downhill or not is a matter of opinion, but it can be argued that we do have one area of absolute consistency in Dorvid's cyclical meltdowns.
I have a particularly fond recollection of his 6th or 7th meltdown back in the Decemberer of 06, the world was in the grip of economic recession and for some of us Dorvid's meltdown was our only source of heat during a particularly harsh winter.
If memory serves, I believe Dorvid had taken issue with a 3 star review of the movie Anchorman in the Christian Science Monitor, he scribbled these thoughts on an old envelope and tucked it down the back of the sofa. That tuesday, when Tom failed to even mention Anchorman on the Best Show, Dorvid was rightly disturbed; a feeling compounded when, while watching the Office, Steve Carell began to give him knowing looks. Like any sane man would, he ripped the tin foil from his keyboard and deleted his account in disgust after penning an incisive and invective laden farewell, peppered with his trademark ill-placed expletives.
Ah, I have rambled on too long.
Forgive an old man and his memories.
Please accept my apologies if I have bored you in anyway.
What's that you say?
No I couldn't possibly.
No, I will not hear of such a thing, but if you insist I shall have a Yuengling.
You are very kind.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on June 06, 2011, 11:21:42 AM
I'd like to go on record stating that I'm not down with, nor do I find the piling on funny.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: gravy boat on June 07, 2011, 01:03:53 PM
Piling on?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hearts of Steele on June 11, 2011, 08:39:53 AM
I've also been wary of Jen Kirkman's punk cred until I heard her story of choosing a Ramones show over her boyfriend on the Pod F. Tompkast.
On Valentine's Day, no less. That was story was endearing.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on June 28, 2011, 10:01:49 AM
I'd always thought Larry Miller was funny, but hadn't really heard him interviewed before this week's WTF. Although personality-wise they are diametrically opposed, he is Slaytonian in his ability to monopolize a conversation, which is no mean feat when talking to Maron. I really enjoyed the episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cas-vik on June 28, 2011, 10:10:23 AM
I'd always thought Larry Miller was funny, but hadn't really heard him interviewed before this week's WTF. Although personality-wise they are diametrically opposed, he is Slaytonian in his ability to monopolize a conversation, which is no mean feat when talking to Maron. I really enjoyed the episode.

I never really knew Larry Miller's stand up but I really enjoyed the episode.  Particularly the brief tangent in which Miller revealed that Milton Berle could take any man down with a single knuckle.

I wonder when Maron will get around to posting the recent live shows at the Bell House with Scharpling and Jon Benjamin and other folks?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on June 28, 2011, 10:36:23 AM
He was really good as a 2-time villain on Law & Order.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ChipSuey on June 28, 2011, 12:48:58 PM
I'd always thought Larry Miller was funny, but hadn't really heard him interviewed before this week's WTF. Although personality-wise they are diametrically opposed, he is Slaytonian in his ability to monopolize a conversation, which is no mean feat when talking to Maron. I really enjoyed the episode.

The only other time I've seen him talk outside of any of his standup was on "The Green Room w/ Paul Provenza", and he reminded me there why I'd enjoyed his stuff so much back in the 90's when I first saw him on Comedy Central when it used to run stand up stuff like they were music videos.
He was making a point about how stand up comedy in it's current form is another of the true American art forms, due mainly to the fact that there is an inborn respect for the right to speak our mind.  He said something like:
"Imagine a guy in 1930's Spain getting up on a stage and saying 'You know what I really think...?'".
Dude is sharp.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on June 29, 2011, 06:02:09 PM
I'd always thought Larry Miller was funny, but hadn't really heard him interviewed before this week's WTF. Although personality-wise they are diametrically opposed, he is Slaytonian in his ability to monopolize a conversation, which is no mean feat when talking to Maron. I really enjoyed the episode.

The only other time I've seen him talk outside of any of his standup was on "The Green Room w/ Paul Provenza", and he reminded me there why I'd enjoyed his stuff so much back in the 90's when I first saw him on Comedy Central when it used to run stand up stuff like they were music videos.
He was making a point about how stand up comedy in it's current form is another of the true American art forms, due mainly to the fact that there is an inborn respect for the right to speak our mind.  He said something like:
"Imagine a guy in 1930's Spain getting up on a stage and saying 'You know what I really think...?'".
Dude is sharp.

Wow, that's a great way to put it. I didn't know anything about Larry Miller as a comic going into the show, but his presence on mic was impressive and he has a really nice way of looking at things. I was also impressed at his ability to steer the entire conversation away from Marc's typical talking about himself/interjecting (not that that's a bad thing, but still, the relative lack of that aspect of the show really lent itself to this interview in particular).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on June 30, 2011, 12:25:48 AM
I'd always thought Larry Miller was funny, but hadn't really heard him interviewed before this week's WTF. Although personality-wise they are diametrically opposed, he is Slaytonian in his ability to monopolize a conversation, which is no mean feat when talking to Maron. I really enjoyed the episode.

His attitude towards the guys who mugged him was both completely insane yet oddly logical I certainly get where he was coming from, but I'm still not sure I really get it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: meamsean on June 30, 2011, 01:52:38 PM
A hoodlum broke into my apartment this past friday night and hit me in the face (don't worry I'm ok). I listened to the Larry Miller episode that day and all I could think about on the way to the hospital was, "Wow, Larry Miller was right. I'm just glad the guy hit me once to make his escape, and didn't do something more sadistic and hurt me really badly". Odd thought indeed, but I honestly had it too.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ChipSuey on June 30, 2011, 03:30:34 PM
A hoodlum broke into my apartment this past friday night and hit me in the face (don't worry I'm ok). I listened to the Larry Miller episode that day and all I could think about on the way to the hospital was, "Wow, Larry Miller was right. I'm just glad the guy hit me once to make his escape, and didn't do something more sadistic and hurt me really badly". Odd thought indeed, but I honestly had it too.

Scary!  Glad you're ok!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: hardweek on July 06, 2011, 01:33:29 AM
For someone like me, who is by absolutely no means a comedy nerd, The Best Show has become an access point to a lot of comedians I would never have heard of otherwise. Of all the related shows and podcasts etc I have checked out as a result, my favourite thing (move over Delocated) has become the WTF podcast.

I'm still back in Feb/March, listening to Bobby Lee, PFT, Gallagher, Dave Foley, etc and some of these podcasts are pure gold. I'm hooked

Thanks, Best Show!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 06, 2011, 06:53:24 AM
Maron's one of the top three four interviewers in radio/podcastdom!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on July 06, 2011, 08:17:44 AM
That Nick Thune interview was really something else.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: hardweek on July 06, 2011, 12:25:21 PM
At this rate, I should get to it by about mid-Sept!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: gravy boat on July 06, 2011, 05:57:05 PM
Maron's one of the top three four interviewers in radio/podcastdom!

Couldn't get that one in a little sooner, Dave?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on July 07, 2011, 08:35:51 PM
The Todd Hanson ep is one of my favorites so far. I don't want to ruin it for anyone but the second half is one of the most moving stories about the extremes of depression I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on July 08, 2011, 08:01:29 AM
Agreed. I don't want to spoil either, but I couldn't help thinking while listening of another famous writer who was in a similar situation (though things came out a little differently for him - again, mentioning his name would spoil it). It's already become one of my favorite episodes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: break on July 08, 2011, 04:13:33 PM
Agreed x2.  Todd seems like such a (sad) sweetheart of a guy.

I liked Marc's special mention of The Onion article about Starbucks, i've always loved that one. 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/starbucks-to-begin-sinister-phase-two-of-operation,416/ (http://www.theonion.com/articles/starbucks-to-begin-sinister-phase-two-of-operation,416/)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on July 08, 2011, 11:54:03 PM
That Nick Thune interview was really something else.

I don't know how I feel about it. What was interesting was that at the end of the episode it was hard to perceive how Marc felt about the guy. It's usually not so grey going out.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on July 10, 2011, 03:01:06 PM
I really enjoyed the frequency and the sincerity with which Larry Miller exclaimed, "And that's no baloney!"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on July 10, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
At several points during the Larry Miller episode I thought, "His catchphrase must be 'You know whut?'".
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on July 14, 2011, 07:16:10 PM
That Nick Thune interview was really something else.

I don't know how I feel about it. What was interesting was that at the end of the episode it was hard to perceive how Marc felt about the guy. It's usually not so grey going out.

Maron came across as really condescending with Nick Thune....why bother having someone on that you don't like or admire or even want to talk to in some way? The guy was smart and payed his dues but Maron just seems bitter than Thune is so young and successful (or something).

I've become a big fan of WTF this year but this was the first one that left a gnarly taste in my mouth.

-Ajax
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 14, 2011, 09:14:36 PM
That Nick Thune interview was really something else.

I don't know how I feel about it. What was interesting was that at the end of the episode it was hard to perceive how Marc felt about the guy. It's usually not so grey going out.

Maron came across as really condescending with Nick Thune....why bother having someone on that you don't like or admire or even want to talk to in some way? The guy was smart and payed his dues but Maron just seems bitter than Thune is so young and successful (or something).

I've become a big fan of WTF this year but this was the first one that left a gnarly taste in my mouth.

-Ajax

Really? I am a Christian, and I couldn't believe how constructive their discussion was. I have recommended it to half a dozen friends.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on July 14, 2011, 09:51:04 PM
That Nick Thune interview was really something else.

I don't know how I feel about it. What was interesting was that at the end of the episode it was hard to perceive how Marc felt about the guy. It's usually not so grey going out.

Maron came across as really condescending with Nick Thune....why bother having someone on that you don't like or admire or even want to talk to in some way? The guy was smart and payed his dues but Maron just seems bitter than Thune is so young and successful (or something).

I've become a big fan of WTF this year but this was the first one that left a gnarly taste in my mouth.

-Ajax

Really? I am a Christian, and I couldn't believe how constructive their discussion was. I have recommended it to half a dozen friends.

I agree with Dave. Not a Christian, but I think Marc might have learned something during the talk. I really think it could have gone on longer to achieve better closure though.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on July 15, 2011, 01:21:20 AM
Has he talked to the puppet guy yet?  Or any of the Blue Collar Comedy Guys?

I can't be bothered to do a search, even though typing in this post took more time than it would to look.  Admittedly, I don't know the name of the Blue Collar Comedy guys.  Jeff Foxworthy, is he one of them?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on July 15, 2011, 05:37:39 AM
Foxworthy is a blue comedy guy I would say and I don't think MM has interviewed him or Larry the Cable Guy or Larry the David guy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 15, 2011, 06:29:52 AM
Has he talked to the puppet guy yet?  Or any of the Blue Collar Comedy Guys?

I can't be bothered to do a search, even though typing in this post took more time than it would to look.  Admittedly, I don't know the name of the Blue Collar Comedy guys.  Jeff Foxworthy, is he one of them?

Don't know the redneck comedy guys? Please see the 2010 Marathon DVD.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on July 15, 2011, 07:56:47 AM
Who are the other remaining dream guests? I'm hoping against hope that Steve Coogan makes an appearance someday, as well as Steve Merchant. Dave Chapelle would be interesting, and it seems like Jon Stewart is overdue.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on July 15, 2011, 09:15:52 AM
More Borscht-Belt comedians, am I right?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on July 15, 2011, 09:18:54 AM
He's mentioned Albert Brooks and Will Ferrell as dream guests that he's having a hard time reaching. At this point, I'm pretty sure Jon Stewart's not going to happen. I've also heard him mention Iggy Pop and Tom Waits as dream guests.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on July 15, 2011, 04:23:49 PM
I'm sure Coogan and Merchant would be there in a second if the schedule lined up right.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on July 16, 2011, 07:47:21 PM
Who are the other remaining dream guests? I'm hoping against hope that Steve Coogan makes an appearance someday, as well as Steve Merchant. Dave Chapelle would be interesting, and it seems like Jon Stewart is overdue.

I'd like to see Rosanne interviewed. If we're really talking DREAM guests who we never seriously expect to see I'd say Bill Cosby.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on July 16, 2011, 11:31:54 PM
John Wesley Shipp and Spike: Marc explores the celebrity/fan relationship as these two meet in person for the first time, security will be provided. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 17, 2011, 03:03:41 PM
Dream guests: Dana Carvey, Dennis Miller, Victoria Jackson
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on July 17, 2011, 07:47:29 PM
I can't think of anyone I'd like to hear him interview more than Katt Williams.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on July 17, 2011, 09:52:02 PM
It's really too bad he never got Robert Schimmel or Greg Giraldo on the show.

For those who didn't see it, Marc was really great on Real Time this week.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on July 28, 2011, 11:45:48 AM
For those who don't subscribe or listen regularly, the live show featuring Tom is up this week and it's great.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rhymes with Don Draper on July 28, 2011, 02:38:45 PM
Because I heard Marc Maron and Tom Scharpling talk about Maron's critics on this board on the latest live ep of WTF, I just want to say that I've had a positive change-of-heart regarding Mr. Maron's interviewing style as well as his comedy (both things that I've criticized here.)

Through listening to even more episodes of WTF and reading interviews of him, I've grown to appreciate Maron, his work, and his interviewing style, and I understand now that he's basically a vulnerable, thoughtful guy who has interesting theories on what makes comedians tick.

So, Mr. Maron, I think you're great. And if you're thinking "why does this guy think I'm vulnerable?", I'll just say that your status as a cat-lover is a dead giveaway. :-)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on July 28, 2011, 07:59:23 PM
OH THE TRAGEDY! Tom DID defend Dorvid! 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: JayfromBoston on July 28, 2011, 11:41:04 PM
I just started listening. I am a huge fan of Tom and Marc and I have to say it was a "Vice" mag article that brought me to both ( tho a friend of mine played me "Rock, Rot & Rule" a few years ago & loved it! ). This is great...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on July 29, 2011, 11:19:25 AM
This was hands-down, the best live WTF to date, and I say this as someone who looks forward to the live ones.  GREAT JOB ALL INVOLVED.

I could have done without all the Rush bashing nonsense, although I'm happy Tom came to his senses at the end.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on July 29, 2011, 02:05:54 PM
This was hands-down, the best live WTF to date, and I say this as someone who looks forward to the live ones.  GREAT JOB ALL INVOLVED.

I could have done without all the Rush bashing nonsense, although I'm happy Tom came to his senses at the end.


Well, Mr. Limbaugh does have a lot of fans...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ChipSuey on July 29, 2011, 04:06:26 PM
Maron's keynote address to the Just for Laffs festival in Montreal is up.  Well, the transcript, anyway. 

http://thecomicscomic.com/2011/07/28/marc-marons-powerful-keynote-address-at-montreals-jfl-2011/ (http://thecomicscomic.com/2011/07/28/marc-marons-powerful-keynote-address-at-montreals-jfl-2011/)

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Keith Whitener on July 29, 2011, 07:49:30 PM
Pauly Shore
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on July 29, 2011, 10:05:48 PM
From watching his Jimmy Fallon appearance, it sounds like he might've interviewed Andrew Dice Clay recently. That should be interesting.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on August 03, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
I was much more familiar with the idea of Andrew Dice Clay than his actual material, so I wasn't sure what to expect, but I thought he came across as a more likable version of what I expected. I did get a big laugh when he did the female voice during the interview and it was EXACTLY like Tom's impersonation.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on August 04, 2011, 12:19:56 AM
I was much more familiar with the idea of Andrew Dice Clay than his actual material, so I wasn't sure what to expect, but I thought he came across as a more likable version of what I expected. I did get a big laugh when he did the female voice during the interview and it was EXACTLY like Tom's impersonation.

I havent listened yet, but I can't help but notice that Dice pulled a Bobby Slayton and managed to get his son on the show as well.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Maron on August 04, 2011, 06:09:45 PM
The kid was my idea.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on August 04, 2011, 09:26:45 PM
Know what? I shouldn't have commented before I listened because it was clearly your idea. I admit that part of it was based on me thinking Dice seemed like a guy who would refuse to do an interview unless you taled to his son as well, but that was just me thinking he was a lot more like his stage persona than he actually is. I was pleasantly surprised at what a nice guy he actually appeared to be.

And I came here to fess up to my mistaken perception before I knew that you had called me on it. He was a good enough guy and a good enough interview that I felt a little bad for accusing him of any shady behavior.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: YuriDedman on August 04, 2011, 11:20:02 PM
^^
Tail between your Fishlegs.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on August 05, 2011, 08:57:14 AM
Maron walks among us? He's one of the 4 greatest interviewers!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: KickTheBobo on August 05, 2011, 11:50:17 AM
"I'm gonna make it a very special show. I mean, I FROM Brooklyn, y'know what I mean?"

yeah, I failed to understand that despite the dozens of times of times you already stated it.

Dice is the perfect example of an artist that refuses to evolve, whether it be due to hubris, fear or being just plain stubborn. Listening to The Day the Laughter died, it's evident that his entire schtick could be made into a computer algorithm that just randomly plugs in variables like Blow_Me and Hoow-Wah.

His kid was a major snooze too.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on August 05, 2011, 01:41:30 PM
I had totally forgotten about The Diceman and had no idea he was so popular as to sell out the Garden two nights in a row. I wonder if that was just because he was a New York guy doing a New York shtick or if he was that big everywhere? I remember liking the Ford Fairlane movie though.

And yeah like all WTF's it always inspires me to check out some youtubes of the guest. I couldn't believe how awful that Dice character was! Great timing though.

I think Steve Martin is the only other guy who did arenas, right? When is he going to be on WTF?

-Ajax
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on August 05, 2011, 03:39:45 PM
Dream Guest: Andy Breckman.

Dice Clay certainly came off as more likeable than in his stage act, but...uh...(1) low bar; (2) I don't really love letting people off the hook for being "nice guys" in private when they've made their public bones yelling things like "If you don't know the language, go the fuck home!"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on August 05, 2011, 04:11:03 PM
Dream Guest: Andy Breckman.

Dice Clay certainly came off as more likeable than in his stage act, but...uh...(1) low bar; (2) I don't really love letting people off the hook for being "nice guys" in private when they've made their public bones yelling things like "If you don't know the language, go the fuck home!"

Yeah. On the one hand, kudos to him for raising kids who seem to be well-adjusted. On the other hand, he seems like one of those guys who just can't recognize when he's stepping over the line with hurtful material. Or worse yet, willfully blinds himself to the hurtfulness of it.  "These are just jokes" ... "I'm playing a character" ... okay sure but ... I listened to some of the "crowd work" on The Day the Laughter Died where he picked on awkward couples on dates, and some of that shit was just so mean and misogynistic. I dunno. It's all subjective I guess, but there's a certain level of denial on Dice's part that kinda blows my mind.

Tom and PFT had an interesting take on this stuff when they were discussing Kinnison ... they talked about how Kinnison maybe knew that he was joking or exaggerating, but there were a lot of mutants in his audience who didn't necessarily pick up on that.

Anyhow, no diss on Maron for doing the show, it was interesting and compelling listening. It seems like one of the central running themes of the show is "What the fuck is 'comedy', anyway?". Which is a very interesting and/or very boring question, depending on one's mood.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on August 05, 2011, 05:54:25 PM
I'm not sure for me the issue is even hurtfulness--it's stupidity and playing to the absolute lowest common denominator.

"So I tell this joke--I say, 'Last night I was with this Puerto Rican chick and I fucked her so hard her asshole popped out.' People are going to be upset by that?  Listen, it's a joke."

Yeah, killer joke, Dude.  I can see why you wanted to pull that coup out in your defense.

Maron clearly likes this guy but at points I don't see him showing a whole lot more self-awareness than Gallagher. "Gays loved us." Uh, suuuure they did, Chief.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on August 05, 2011, 07:22:34 PM
^^
Tail between your Fishlegs.

Next thing you know I'll find out "Big Hoss" is reading the "Chumlee" thread.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: iforgotmymantra on August 14, 2011, 12:58:00 PM
Dream Guest: Andy Breckman.

Oh hell yes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on August 14, 2011, 01:11:44 PM
Dream Guest: Andy Breckman.

Oh hell yes.

It would be great.  20 minutes in, Andy would be muttering "Oh God, this is a disaster" and "Can I go home now?"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on August 14, 2011, 09:21:17 PM
Recently listened to the Andrew Dice Clay one. Man, I hated that guy by the end of that thing whereas in the 80s I just found him unfunny and tedious. 'I'm a real family guy, I just got married for the 3rd time' reminds me of Bob Ducca's father who 'took a job starting a family in another town'. Sounds like he didn't really learn much of anything or adapt in any way, but he lacks self-awareness to the point where it would never occur to him that he'd ever need to. The story of going to Vegas and being a high roller pushed me past some breaking point where I decided 'to hell with this, everything this guy says is bullsh**'. Maybe he does actually make a crudload of money gambling, but so do those guys in those snoozefest poker tournaments, and you don't have to listen to them drone on about I'm from Brooklyn and I sold more tickets than the Beatles, Sinatra, and Elvis combined.

Didn't really have anything against his kid, though.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on August 15, 2011, 08:09:26 AM
Dream Guest: Andy Breckman.

Oh hell yes.

It would be great.  20 minutes in, Andy would be muttering "Oh God, this is a disaster" and "Can I go home now?"

And it would really add to the fun if Andy showed up with his guitar.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on August 16, 2011, 01:45:36 PM
Did Maron light a cigarette during his interview with Birbiglia? 

Did I hear that right? 

I liked this one! 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: KickTheBobo on August 16, 2011, 02:30:43 PM
I'm digging the Mike Birbiglia v. Maron switcheroo.

Had to look up what a "Street Joke" is, though:

http://www.examiner.com/comedy-in-spokane/father-of-the-street-joke-a-brief-look-at-bert-henry (http://www.examiner.com/comedy-in-spokane/father-of-the-street-joke-a-brief-look-at-bert-henry)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ben on August 17, 2011, 01:49:50 AM
I'd like to see a Night After Night reunion with Allan Havey and Nick Bakay.   
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on August 17, 2011, 05:19:40 AM
It was a great change up to have MM in the hotseat, Birbigs was a little tougher than I expected.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: samir on August 17, 2011, 09:41:23 AM
Going back in this thread a couple of weeks, and a little off topic, but there are some great Andrew Dice Clay anecdotes in the latest Never Not Funny ep, with Tom Wilson, his former roommate. Well worth checking out if you can.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on October 04, 2011, 02:06:52 PM
I have to say as an avid WTF listener - heard just about all of them in their entirety - that last week's interview with Will Franken made me sad.

Was it just me, or was it super depressing and seeped in unspoken denial and weirdness?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on October 04, 2011, 02:44:35 PM
I have to say as an avid WTF listener - heard just about all of them in their entirety - that last week's interview with Will Franken made me sad.

Was it just me, or was it super depressing and seeped in unspoken denial and weirdness?

How so? I thought it was a little dull, and when Franken did voice bits it made me wonder if he was delusional in his egotism (i.e., the voice bits weren't all that funny, which made me think he was either overstating his arrogance, or his arrogance was real but unjustified). But then again he didn't strike me as all that arrogant in the interview, and his routines might be much better than the few minutes I heard on WTF.

Anyway, I'm curious what led you to this if you feel like explaining further...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on October 04, 2011, 03:00:32 PM
I'm a Mork fan. I was concerned for Franken, but he sounded like he was on the way back up emotionally after his relationship and other problems, I though MM handled him well instead of going for the jugular like a douchebag reporter might have.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on October 05, 2011, 12:19:32 AM
Just got done listening to the Wally Wackiman episode. Wow. That was gut-wrenching.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on October 05, 2011, 01:50:07 PM
Just got done listening to the Wally Wackiman episode. Wow. That was gut-wrenching.
Finally. Someone has won this thread.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Austin From Chicago on October 05, 2011, 05:58:42 PM
I have to say as an avid WTF listener - heard just about all of them in their entirety - that last week's interview with Will Franken made me sad.

Was it just me, or was it super depressing and seeped in unspoken denial and weirdness?

I agree. That was very depressing. I had to turn it off and come back to it because Franken just wasn't listening to Maron, seemed to be in a different conversation away from the one Maron was having, and appeared to be completely unaware of how deeply he was in denial about his emotional problems. And his whole "Some of my best friends are Jews!" act made me cringe - but not in the good, cleansing, oops-I-hit-a-nerve kind of way WTF usually makes me cringe.

I often re-listen to WTF episodes - I doubt I'll ever come back to this one.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on October 07, 2011, 06:24:31 AM
I have to say as an avid WTF listener - heard just about all of them in their entirety - that last week's interview with Will Franken made me sad.

Was it just me, or was it super depressing and seeped in unspoken denial and weirdness?

How so? I thought it was a little dull, and when Franken did voice bits it made me wonder if he was delusional in his egotism (i.e., the voice bits weren't all that funny, which made me think he was either overstating his arrogance, or his arrogance was real but unjustified). But then again he didn't strike me as all that arrogant in the interview, and his routines might be much better than the few minutes I heard on WTF.

Anyway, I'm curious what led you to this if you feel like explaining further...

I dunno... Maybe it was the way Maron somehow seemed less than thrilled to talk to him, more tolerating the hour long talk rather than being truly interested.

Perhaps it was Franken was all "you're better than a shrink, this is the biggest breakthrough of my life!" and all that. On the surface, his experiences didn't seem terribly different from the range of hardships that most WTF guests reveal, but I just got the feeling that despite acknowledging them he hasn't learned a whole lot from them.

Maybe, on the other hand, it was just the rainy weather that day and I felt sort of crummy?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on October 07, 2011, 02:42:42 PM
Blame it on Helsinki, Mark.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on October 08, 2011, 04:22:53 AM
Blame it on Helsinki, Mark.

I've run out of room on the list, Hugman.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on October 08, 2011, 04:45:27 PM
Blame it on Helsinki, Mark.

I've run out of room on the list, Hugman.

I just re-watched the Helsinki portion of Night On Earth two days ago.  It's a long-embedded, tangental influence on a short I'm writing.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on October 09, 2011, 03:42:48 AM
Blame it on Helsinki, Mark.

I've run out of room on the list, Hugman.

I just re-watched the Helsinki portion of Night On Earth two days ago.  It's a long-embedded, tangental influence on a short I'm writing.

Ecch. Saw that again not too long ago, and while it is definitely a caricature, it somehow rings true at its core.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on October 23, 2011, 02:19:40 PM
Carrot Top on tomorrow's episode! That'll be...something.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on October 25, 2011, 01:50:35 PM
Carrot Top on tomorrow's episode! That'll be...something.

Holy shit, was that guy CT's opener or PR Agent? Jesus. And the way he kept interrupting? My lord. Maron must have wanted to throttle him.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SJK on October 25, 2011, 01:56:17 PM
Carrot Top on tomorrow's episode! That'll be...something.

Holy shit, was that guy CT's opener or PR Agent? Jesus. And the way he kept interrupting? My lord. Maron must have wanted to throttle him.
I really like Maron's show, this episode was not great...it would have been better to do one on one. I get the feeling, Scott didn't want that to happen. I thought the Norm MacDonald interview was great. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on October 25, 2011, 02:12:29 PM
This could've been a really great interview, but the incredibly irritating opener/toady (who was obviously there to run interference) really ruined any chances of that.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: moonshake on October 25, 2011, 02:15:19 PM
Haven't listened to that episode yet, but I did read this in his email newsletter this week -

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It was as homey as you’d think Carrot Top’s house would be. I wish we were alone. I think he would talked more candidly but that wasn’t an option.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ChipSuey on October 25, 2011, 02:33:29 PM
Carrot Top on tomorrow's episode! That'll be...something.

I can now safely say I like Carrot Top more than Dane Cook.  I don't believe that he hasn't had any face work done, but there was far less of a guard up with 'Top than there was with DC.  At least he's fully aware of where he stands.  He knows who his stuff is for and what it's all about, and doesn't try to pretend that what he's doing is anything other than what it actually is. 
And I for one would  love to see him show up on a late night show in a suit with a new haircut and do a straight stand up set just to mess with people.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Regular Joe on October 25, 2011, 02:48:30 PM
To be fair, it sounded to me like that hanger-on had pretty much been a partner/contributor/benevolent parasite to Scott throughout his whole career. The few times he risked losing his grip on his free ride and broke contact with Carrot Top's ass, he actually told a few interesting anecdotes.

Getting Maron's history with him up front and hearing their conversation in the car certainly gives a different perspective on where you can end up when you live with less integrity (and business acumen) than Gallagher.

I love this show.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on October 25, 2011, 03:53:55 PM
It's sad when someone as sad as Carrot Top has to have people holding his hand while another comedian does an interview. He could have come out of the interview triumphantly looking like a ''hard working comic'' but instead seemed like a kind of pampered basket case.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fish on October 25, 2011, 07:52:02 PM
For some reason, this:

(http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2009/1/29/11/gene-simmons-and-carrot-top-bromance-15705-1233246569-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on October 25, 2011, 08:16:28 PM
It's sad when someone as sad as Carrot Top has to have people holding his hand while another comedian does an interview. He could have come out of the interview triumphantly looking like a ''hard working comic'' but instead seemed like a kind of pampered basket case.

Yeah, I was really looking forward to this one, but sycophant buddy ruined it. I wonder what Carrot Top was afraid of. I can't recall Marc treating any of his interviewees in a disrespectful manner and unless you come off as a jerk (Gallagher, Mencia) he doesn't really do anything to make his interview subjects look bad. I would think Maron would be a pretty safe show to do for a guy like Carrot Top to do.

Random WTF? thought- One of my dream guests would be Yakov Smirnoff. I'm not a fan of the guy, but I'd love to hear his story.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on October 25, 2011, 09:05:58 PM
It's sad when someone as sad as Carrot Top has to have people holding his hand while another comedian does an interview. He could have come out of the interview triumphantly looking like a ''hard working comic'' but instead seemed like a kind of pampered basket case.

Yeah, I was really looking forward to this one, but sycophant buddy ruined it. I wonder what Carrot Top was afraid of. I can't recall Marc treating any of his interviewees in a disrespectful manner and unless you come off as a jerk (Gallagher, Mencia) he doesn't really do anything to make his interview subjects look bad. I would think Maron would be a pretty safe show to do for a guy like Carrot Top to do.

I don't know if Carrot Top listens to WTF, but considering the amount of shit he's taken over the years, I can't say I blame the guy for being cautious when going into such an interview setting. Maron doesn't have the cache to lock the toady in a room like Stern did.

As for dream guests, these are all pretty unlikely, but Steve Martin, Larry David, or (especially) Albert Brooks would be pretty great.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on October 25, 2011, 09:10:27 PM
Also, it makes me really sad that he was never able to get Robert Schimmel into the garage.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Boogdish on October 26, 2011, 12:03:11 AM
Random WTF? thought- One of my dream guests would be Yakov Smirnoff. I'm not a fan of the guy, but I'd love to hear his story.
Agreed.  He is so separate from the community of comics though I don't know if he'd be interested or if he and Marc would have any common ground.

This episode made me feel sad for Carrot Top and his sycophant. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 26, 2011, 01:07:17 AM
Would love to see Maron interview David Lynch
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on October 26, 2011, 08:23:12 AM
Would love to see Maron interview David Lynch


Absolutely. I think some great stuff could come out of that.

Unfortunately my opinion of David Lynch was permanently damaged when I saw the documentary David Wants to Fly last year. It was made by a young (and himself quite odd) German guy, an aspiring director who's also a Lynch obsessive. He gets interested in transcendental meditation because of DL's promotion of it and the film is an exploration of the world of TM. The director becomes increasingly aware of the TM movement's long history of hucksterism of, and manages to interview Lynch in three separate, increasingly confrontational, sessions... by the end Lynch comes off as a pampered ass who is willfully blind to the insanity of the movement he supports. It's a rather incredible film.

David Wants to Fly trailer_english.m4v (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq0rsiw6IFo#ws)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on October 26, 2011, 09:04:22 AM
Lynch is my single greatest artistic figure of inspiration, but way back in Twin Peaks days when he was talking about how much he loved Reagan, I came to terms with the fact that this is one guy who just isn't very worldly-wise.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on October 26, 2011, 11:43:06 AM
Random WTF? thought- One of my dream guests would be Yakov Smirnoff. I'm not a fan of the guy, but I'd love to hear his story.
Agreed.  He is so separate from the community of comics though I don't know if he'd be interested or if he and Marc would have any common ground.

This episode made me feel sad for Carrot Top and his sycophant.

Yeah, I suspect an interview w/ Smirnoff would go better than the Gallagher one, although maybe he will lecture Maron on why he'll never be able play Branson, who knows. It would be curious to see if he gets defensive about the 'IN SOVIET RUSSIA noun verbs YOU' jokes or has a good sense of humor about it. The story of how he navigated the years after the collapse of the Soviet Union would also be interesting to hear. Did he spend years in a drug fueled haze? Did he work a regular person job? I guess I could wiki this, but WTF is more entertaining.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on October 26, 2011, 12:46:39 PM
Random WTF? thought- One of my dream guests would be Yakov Smirnoff. I'm not a fan of the guy, but I'd love to hear his story.
Agreed.  He is so separate from the community of comics though I don't know if he'd be interested or if he and Marc would have any common ground.

This episode made me feel sad for Carrot Top and his sycophant.

Yeah, I suspect an interview w/ Smirnoff would go better than the Gallagher one, although maybe he will lecture Maron on why he'll never be able play Branson, who knows. It would be curious to see if he gets defensive about the 'IN SOVIET RUSSIA noun verbs YOU' jokes or has a good sense of humor about it. The story of how he navigated the years after the collapse of the Soviet Union would also be interesting to hear. Did he spend years in a drug fueled haze? Did he work a regular person job? I guess I could wiki this, but WTF is more entertaining.

That's actually a good call on Yakov Smirnoff: a behind-the-scenes look at the (for some) the entertainment Mecca of Branson, MO through the Maron/WTF filter. 

I tried to give that whole Carrot Top episode a listen but his opener/"publicist"/safety blanket torpedoed anything that was breaking toward interesting.  If Maron were a journalist he'd have to pull the plug on the interview but since he's not, I appreciate him going forward, seeing if something would shake out.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on October 26, 2011, 02:54:59 PM
A friend of mine is going to meet with Yakov Smirnoff next week.  I will eventually get a report and see how the man is doing these days.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on October 26, 2011, 03:39:01 PM
Ask him if he drops the Russian accent while they're talking.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Sploops on October 30, 2011, 05:11:05 PM
It'd be cool if Marc interviewed the other (KITH) Scott Thompson.  He was great on Pardo. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on October 31, 2011, 12:48:41 PM
Chris Rock on Thursday!  One baby step closer to my dream guest Katt Wiliams.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Boogdish on November 03, 2011, 06:38:05 PM
my favorite moment of today's episode was Chris Rock asking for "A regular iced tea, not diet"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on November 03, 2011, 07:17:39 PM
Chris Rock on Thursday!  One baby step closer to my dream guest Katt Wiliams.

This is actually addressed during the show. Rock says that Williams "will be tough to get."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on November 05, 2011, 10:42:53 AM
Yeah, I suspect an interview w/ Smirnoff would go better than the Gallagher one...

Has anyone posted the "in Russia podcast record YOU" joke yet?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on November 05, 2011, 06:56:30 PM
Chris Rock on Thursday!  One baby step closer to my dream guest Katt Wiliams.

I'd interview him and just ask him questions about THE GREATEST AMERICAN HERO. I actually wouldn't mind hearing an interview with Katt Williams. I'd also like to hear from Ron White and Larry the Cable Guy. Not a fan, but you can't get that far in comedy without having some interesting insights.

Rock was good, but the audio quality was spotty. I tho0ught maybe it was my Dollar Tree earbuds, but I heard others complaining as well.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on November 05, 2011, 07:40:32 PM
I'd like to hear Ron White also. I am actually a fan of his, and I'd be interested to hear him talk about his relationship with the Blue Collar guys. I think he's too canny to outright shit on those other guys, but from his appearance on Green Room, I got the feeling he was never really that interested in being a part of that group.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on November 18, 2011, 12:58:16 AM
Merrill effin' Markoe! What an amazing lady. Lots of comedy-nerd history covered on this episode (Andy Breckman gets a shout-out). Fascinating on a pop-historical & psychological & personal/confessional level. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on November 19, 2011, 07:13:40 PM
Merrill effin' Markoe! What an amazing lady. Lots of comedy-nerd history covered on this episode (Andy Breckman gets a shout-out). Fascinating on a pop-historical & psychological & personal/confessional level. Good stuff.

I've got to listen to that one. Markoe is responsible for the great early stuff on "Late Night with David Letterman"... A very funny woman...

IS the Rainn Wilson interview any good?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on November 19, 2011, 08:34:31 PM
Maron was on "Wait, Wait, Just Kill Me" this week.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 19, 2011, 11:17:57 PM
I really liked the Rainn Wilson interview. He wasn't trying to be funny, but he's a truly fascinating guy, especially when he talks about being raised Baha'i. I'm a sucker for a WTF interview with someone who struggled with the American theater and then became a star, though.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on November 20, 2011, 12:03:50 PM
I really liked the Rainn Wilson interview. He wasn't trying to be funny, but he's a truly fascinating guy, especially when he talks about being raised Baha'i. I'm a sucker for a WTF interview with someone who struggled with the American theater and then became a star, though.

Yea, he's an interesting guy.  I'm also fascinated with the Baha'i faith.  I met some Baha'i men from Oman while I was in Thailand. They were from Iran originally but fled persecution there.  They were in Thailand looking for a house for their parents because they were starting to come down on the Baha'i in Oman and they were probably going to have to flee there as well.  Men without a country.  Talking to them in the tour van on the way to the River Kwai was one of the highlights of my trip.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on November 22, 2011, 09:34:02 AM
Though it's extraordinarily unlikely to happen, I'd really like to hear Marc interview Bill Cosby.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: hardweek on November 24, 2011, 01:07:14 PM
Ok, so I'm still months behind and the conversation on this episode is played out, but that Will Franken episode was something else. Any criticism directed towards Franken was sorta embraced then deflected to either the royal "we" of the brotherhood of comedians or the "we" of Franken & Maron. Totally bizarre defence mechanisms.

I have a bigger respect for Marc for the way he handled the interview: careful listeners had many understated means to filter the interview through, but he never lowered himself to go for the jugular (as someone pointed out earlier). Great episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ben on November 27, 2011, 02:57:35 AM
I thought the small segment he did with Neil Hamburger on the live show from episode 226 was HILARIOUS.  I've listened to that part a dozen times at least. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on November 29, 2011, 03:45:00 PM
I thought the small segment he did with Neil Hamburger on the live show from episode 226 was HILARIOUS.  I've listened to that part a dozen times at least.

I usually skip the live show episodes (because they are less intimate I guess?) but checked this one out to hear Hamburger - the whole show was really funny and that Molly Shannon story was incredible! But yeah, Hamburger, wow, I was laughing out loud. Home alone, laughing. I liked Andy Kindler too, so hyper and FUNNY.

I'm not skipping any more live episodes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on November 29, 2011, 04:09:29 PM

I'm not skipping any more live episodes.

They're usually pretty good, and I think it's good for him to change up the format of the show every now and then ... I like the "road trip" episodes also.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: TheDependentClause on December 01, 2011, 11:39:56 AM
I'm debating whether to listen to the Penn Jillette episode. I'm worried it might drive me up the wall, as I find that stripe of self-righteous libertarian/atheist/global-warming denialist particularly infuriating. But I'm curious to see whether/how Marc addresses that, given that Marc is a recovering alcoholic and generally seems like a spiritual person, not to mention a lefty, and how that collision with Jillette's views might come up during the episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on December 01, 2011, 12:12:06 PM
I'm debating whether to listen to the Penn Jillette episode. I'm worried it might drive me up the wall, as I find that stripe of self-righteous libertarian/atheist/global-warming denialist particularly infuriating. But I'm curious to see whether/how Marc addresses that, given that Marc is a recovering alcoholic and generally seems like a spiritual person, not to mention a lefty, and how that collision with Jillette's views might come up during the episode.

I listened to it. Jillette is not as infuriating as I'd expected, mainly because he comes across as so incredibly earnest.

Weird Al Goldstein story, too.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on December 01, 2011, 06:00:47 PM
I have deeply mixed feelings about Penn Jillette.  A while back when Tom put up the topic "People You Know You Should Hate But You Gotta Admit You Kinda Like 'Em" (loosely paraphrased), I thought of him.  I've gotten a lot of enjoyment and even insight from Penn and Teller over the years, though I watched one episode of Bullshit and said "Eh, who needs this."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Brandon0476 on December 01, 2011, 06:29:57 PM
I'm debating whether to listen to the Penn Jillette episode. I'm worried it might drive me up the wall, as I find that stripe of self-righteous libertarian/atheist/global-warming denialist particularly infuriating. But I'm curious to see whether/how Marc addresses that, given that Marc is a recovering alcoholic and generally seems like a spiritual person, not to mention a lefty, and how that collision with Jillette's views might come up during the episode.

I don't know if I'd call Marc a spiritual guy. He seems to believe there might possibly be something out there and is generally pretty tolerant to religion, but I don't think he'd be bothered by atheists. Unless Penn's a jerk about it (a la Ricky Gervais)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: hardweek on December 02, 2011, 11:33:56 AM
Just finished the Jack Gallagher episode. Another fantastic interview. As someone who works as an ABA therapist, I thought the interview was classy and informative. Kudos.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Jesus H.W. Christ on December 02, 2011, 07:27:07 PM
As one of last week's callers mentioned, I'd love it if they made the panel Tom did with Marc Maron and Ira Glass available in some capacity. The Scharpling & Maron tag team in action always brings me joy.

Also, I've been listening to a lot of old Best Show episodes lately, and I'm interested to see how Tom and Ira Glass interact, given that Tom has relentlessly mocked This American Life in the past.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on December 02, 2011, 09:35:09 PM
Listened to the Penn Jillette interview today and thought it was great as well as mind-broadening.  Definitely an interesting explanation of one man's take on Libertarianism.  Seems like either you have to have blind faith in the government or your fellow man. Either way, we're fucked, I guess.  ;)(sort of)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on December 03, 2011, 04:21:57 PM
I'm debating whether to listen to the Penn Jillette episode. I'm worried it might drive me up the wall, as I find that stripe of self-righteous libertarian/atheist/global-warming denialist particularly infuriating. But I'm curious to see whether/how Marc addresses that, given that Marc is a recovering alcoholic and generally seems like a spiritual person, not to mention a lefty, and how that collision with Jillette's views might come up during the episode.

I found the interview with Penn pretty interesting. There's not as much Libertarianism and atheism in it as you might think, and he just seems like a truly cool guy.

To all of you who are fans, you owe it to yourself to see their show in Las Vegas. It's great, relatively inexpensive (for Vegas), and you get to meet them afterward.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on December 05, 2011, 02:34:00 PM
I'm extremely apprehensive about listening to the Anthony Bourdain interview. I like No Reservations but I get the feeling it would be a real chore to hang around with the guy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on December 05, 2011, 03:16:20 PM
I'm extremely apprehensive about listening to the Anthony Bourdain interview. I like No Reservations but I get the feeling it would be a real chore to hang around with the guy.

I like both Maron (what little I've heard) and Bourdain (heard and seen a lot of him, including a live talk).  I have the feeling that they're a lot, a lot, a lot alike.  I don't know whether that makes for good radio or bad.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on December 05, 2011, 07:07:19 PM
I think every episode is worth listening to regardless of the guest. A lot of my favorite episodes are guests I'm not super huge fans of, and some of the times when I am (Hannibal Buress comes to mind) the episode is a total B-.
The opening chat of the Dr. Steve episode nearly made me cry.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on December 05, 2011, 08:32:01 PM
  I don't know whether that makes for good radio or bad.
You most certainly dieu.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on December 06, 2011, 08:03:46 AM
I think every episode is worth listening to regardless of the guest. A lot of my favorite episodes are guests I'm not super huge fans of, and some of the times when I am (Hannibal Buress comes to mind) the episode is a total B-.

I've listened to every episode, so I agree with you. I listened to the Bourdain and enjoyed it. I'm not exactly sure what I was expecting, but I didn't get it. His TV persona is one of those swaggering dum-dums who thinks that talking about how much he loves to eat meat makes him more of a macho man or something, but in the interview he came across as much more insecure and thoughtful, which made for good listening.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Omar on December 06, 2011, 09:37:13 PM
I think every episode is worth listening to regardless of the guest. A lot of my favorite episodes are guests I'm not super huge fans of, and some of the times when I am (Hannibal Buress comes to mind) the episode is a total B-.

I've listened to every episode, so I agree with you. I listened to the Bourdain and enjoyed it. I'm not exactly sure what I was expecting, but I didn't get it. His TV persona is one of those swaggering dum-dums who thinks that talking about how much he loves to eat meat makes him more of a macho man or something, but in the interview he came across as much more insecure and thoughtful, which made for good listening.

The Bourdain episode was a delight! 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 06, 2011, 11:57:48 PM
I think every episode is worth listening to regardless of the guest. A lot of my favorite episodes are guests I'm not super huge fans of, and some of the times when I am (Hannibal Buress comes to mind) the episode is a total B-.

I've listened to every episode, so I agree with you. I listened to the Bourdain and enjoyed it. I'm not exactly sure what I was expecting, but I didn't get it. His TV persona is one of those swaggering dum-dums who thinks that talking about how much he loves to eat meat makes him more of a macho man or something, but in the interview he came across as much more insecure and thoughtful, which made for good listening.

The Bourdain episode was a delight!

I am waiting for the Ty Tabor episode
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mr. Spacely on December 07, 2011, 11:10:00 PM
Just finished up the Penn Jillette interview.  Very entertaining. Loved the Al Goldstein story.

I've seen Penn & Teller four times over the last twenty years and every time has been totally different and well worth it. Also, they sign autographs after every show and are unfailingly polite and gracious.

Penn also had his own radio show a few years back. It was generally a bit iffy (you're either a talk radio host, or your not), but his interviews with Trey Parker and Matt Stone, as well as the Mythbusters guys, were very entertaining. Apparently, all Libertarian Atheists hang out all the time and are generally great interviews.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on December 16, 2011, 08:38:58 AM
Kevin Pollak's interview is gross. 

I should attempt to spell his name right, though. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on December 16, 2011, 11:13:38 AM
I loved the Penn Jillette interview. I wasn't a fan going in but now I am - he's got great stories! And worked hard, studying schtick when he was young at the tv&radio museum and stuff. He did the work, as Tom likes to say.

Am I the only one who was disappointed that the Mary Lynn Rajskub interview didn't mention Girls Guitar Club? I love this movie!!

The Girls Guitar Club (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2855758651996835144)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Big Plastic Head on December 16, 2011, 06:45:47 PM
I loved the Penn Jillette interview. I wasn't a fan going in but now I am - he's got great stories! And worked hard, studying schtick when he was young at the tv&radio museum and stuff. He did the work, as Tom likes to say.

Am I the only one who was disappointed that the Mary Lynn Rajskub interview didn't mention Girls Guitar Club? I love this movie!!

The Girls Guitar Club ([url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2855758651996835144[/url])


I LOVE Girls Guitar Club. Don't want to admit how hard I looked for a higher resolution version of this a year or so ago.

"Do you like Krispy Kreme Doughnuts? Well here are some Krispy Kreme Doughnuts for your ears!"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on December 16, 2011, 07:13:49 PM
I loved the Penn Jillette interview. I wasn't a fan going in but now I am - he's got great stories! And worked hard, studying schtick when he was young at the tv&radio museum and stuff. He did the work, as Tom likes to say.

Am I the only one who was disappointed that the Mary Lynn Rajskub interview didn't mention Girls Guitar Club? I love this movie!!

The Girls Guitar Club ([url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2855758651996835144[/url])


I LOVE Girls Guitar Club. Don't want to admit how hard I looked for a higher resolution version of this a year or so ago.

"Do you like Krispy Kreme Doughnuts? Well here are some Krispy Kreme Doughnuts for your ears!"


I agree there should be a hi-res version somewhere! Also this is one of the first movies directed by Ruben "Zombieland" Fleischer! I love his work.

Hey this looks higher-res!

http://ruben.fm/video-detail.php?id=29&page=3 (http://ruben.fm/video-detail.php?id=29&page=3)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mr. Spacely on December 16, 2011, 10:30:13 PM
Thinking about how Marc and Tom finally did each other's shows this past year...

Is there a reason why Louis C.K. has never appeared on TBSOWFMU?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on December 17, 2011, 01:19:53 AM
Louis CK did appear, in the form of him saying 'Hi' during one of Todd Barry's call-ins.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on December 17, 2011, 05:51:23 PM
Penn also had his own radio show a few years back. It was generally a bit iffy (you're either a talk radio host, or your not), but his interviews with Trey Parker and Matt Stone, as well as the Mythbusters guys, were very entertaining. Apparently, all Libertarian Atheists hang out all the time and are generally great interviews.

IT'S MONKEY TUESDAY!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Big Plastic Head on December 18, 2011, 11:36:37 AM
I loved the Penn Jillette interview. I wasn't a fan going in but now I am - he's got great stories! And worked hard, studying schtick when he was young at the tv&radio museum and stuff. He did the work, as Tom likes to say.

Am I the only one who was disappointed that the Mary Lynn Rajskub interview didn't mention Girls Guitar Club? I love this movie!!

The Girls Guitar Club ([url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2855758651996835144[/url])


I LOVE Girls Guitar Club. Don't want to admit how hard I looked for a higher resolution version of this a year or so ago.

"Do you like Krispy Kreme Doughnuts? Well here are some Krispy Kreme Doughnuts for your ears!"


I agree there should be a hi-res version somewhere! Also this is one of the first movies directed by Ruben "Zombieland" Fleischer! I love his work.

Hey this looks higher-res!

[url]http://ruben.fm/video-detail.php?id=29&page=3[/url] ([url]http://ruben.fm/video-detail.php?id=29&page=3[/url])


Nice! Thanks!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on December 19, 2011, 03:27:42 PM
This Russell Peters interview keeps getting better and better...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Austin From Chicago on December 21, 2011, 09:42:26 AM
I'm a few weeks behind, but I must say that I was pleasantly surprised by the Kevin Pollak interview. I've always found that guy annoying at best - and always loved it when, for instance, the MST3K guys would riff on him (especially if they were riffing on "Willow" at the same time). But his stories were richly entertaining for all sorts of reasons and he actually made me laugh a few times.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on December 21, 2011, 09:57:42 AM
I'm a few weeks behind, but I must say that I was pleasantly surprised by the Kevin Pollak interview. I've always found that guy annoying at best - and always loved it when, for instance, the MST3K guys would riff on him (especially if they were riffing on "Willow" at the same time). But his stories were richly entertaining for all sorts of reasons and he actually made me laugh a few times.

Totally worth hearing just for the Rickles/DeNiro stories.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on December 24, 2011, 02:22:28 PM
Michael Ian Black takes Marc to task for thinking he's an a-hole and in doing that totally sounds like a real a-hole.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Omar on December 24, 2011, 08:42:59 PM
Michael Ian Black takes Marc to task for thinking he's an a-hole and in doing that totally sounds like a real a-hole.

MIB is a grade-A cretten!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: RemyLBO on January 01, 2012, 11:30:54 PM
Michael Ian Black takes Marc to task for thinking he's an a-hole and in doing that totally sounds like a real a-hole.

MIB is a grade-A cretten!

I'm not really a fan of the guy, but I'm curious if there's any specific reason you say that beyond his general asshole demeanor
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: wood and iron on January 02, 2012, 01:46:36 AM
To be fair to MIB, Maron was totally baiting him the whole time. It's hard to not act like an asshole when someone is repeatedly telling you that you act like an asshole.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 02, 2012, 11:16:53 AM
To be fair to MIB, Maron was totally baiting him the whole time. It's hard to not act like an asshole when someone is repeatedly telling you that you act like an asshole.

Karma's a bitch.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on January 02, 2012, 12:18:49 PM
I'm a few weeks behind, but I must say that I was pleasantly surprised by the Kevin Pollak interview. I've always found that guy annoying at best - and always loved it when, for instance, the MST3K guys would riff on him (especially if they were riffing on "Willow" at the same time). But his stories were richly entertaining for all sorts of reasons and he actually made me laugh a few times.

Totally worth hearing just for the Rickles/DeNiro stories.

Those are great. I'd love to hear Maron interview Rickles. I'm not a fan of his comedy, but he's a really interesting and cool guy...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on January 06, 2012, 09:51:20 AM
Penn's praise for his mother brought me to tears.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on January 06, 2012, 10:02:38 AM
Penn's praise for his mother brought me to tears.

Yeah, because it was very heart felt. I know some people cannot stand Penn Jillette, but he seems to be one of the most sincere people around...

I'll also plug their Vegas show. I've seen it several times. Each time it's quite different and each time it's worth every penny.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on January 06, 2012, 10:04:01 AM
Michael Ian Black takes Marc to task for thinking he's an a-hole and in doing that totally sounds like a real a-hole.

I disagree, I thought Marc came across as the asshole, peppering the interview with little insults. He reminded me of my old mother-in-law, couching barbs in language that can't be directly addressed. Slippery and un-fun!

Seems weird that he gets away with insulting his guests (see Nick Thune).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on January 06, 2012, 10:19:30 AM
I'm trying to parse "old mother-in-law," MM, and I'm coming up short.  But I'm interested in the phraseology!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 06, 2012, 05:04:01 PM
Michael Ian Black takes Marc to task for thinking he's an a-hole and in doing that totally sounds like a real a-hole.

I disagree, I thought Marc came across as the asshole, peppering the interview with little insults. He reminded me of my old mother-in-law, couching barbs in language that can't be directly addressed. Slippery and un-fun!

Seems weird that he gets away with insulting his guests (see Nick Thune).

I loved the Nick Thune episode. Probably my favorite to date.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Austin From Chicago on January 06, 2012, 08:47:42 PM
Jonah Ray's vocal impersonation of his own flatulence in the last live "WTF" has already made 2012 a great year for me.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on January 08, 2012, 04:42:01 PM
The MIB episode is a perfect example of why WTF is so engaging.  Everyone injects their own feelings and projections into how they interpret an episode.  I heard MIB being insanely insecure and overly defensive at pretty innocuous comments.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 09, 2012, 09:30:35 AM
The MIB episode is a perfect example of why WTF is so engaging.  Everyone injects their own feelings and projections into how they interpret an episode.  I heard MIB being insanely insecure and overly defensive at pretty innocuous comments.

I also think sometimes when Maron is accused of being an a-hole it's more of a playful kind of ribbing (jab trading?). An example being when he joked about Dane Cook being a wizard in a castle upset about somebody 'stealing his essence'. The fact that Cook got annoyed by it kind of egged him on, which is not surprising from somebody whose profession is being funny. The more he pushed it, the funnier it was to me anyway.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on January 09, 2012, 11:01:11 AM
I'm trying to parse "old mother-in-law," MM, and I'm coming up short.  But I'm interested in the phraseology!

My ex-wife's mom had that rare skill of insulting you to your face but you wouldn't realize it until the next day.  Marc's jabs at Michael Ian Black were less subtle (she was the master) but reminiscent!

"Hi we're being friendly but I'm going to insult you to your face..."

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on January 09, 2012, 12:52:24 PM
I think Marc did take a few jabs but MIB was way way guarded. I've always liked Stella (but moreso the other two).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on January 09, 2012, 01:17:41 PM
I should have also noted that my interpretation of MIB being insecure and defensive comes from recognizing that stuff in myself. That's what I mean by we project our stuff onto it.  Meaning, I'm not going to label him an asshole.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on January 09, 2012, 01:42:23 PM
Saw him in a commercial for Expedia just now.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on January 09, 2012, 06:47:14 PM
I should have also noted that my interpretation of MIB being insecure and defensive comes from recognizing that stuff in myself. That's what I mean by we project our stuff onto it.  Meaning, I'm not going to label him an asshole.

In the interview didn't he admit that that was where his "asshole" stage persona came from? I agree that he was being defensive, but at the same time Marc seemed to enjoy goading him a little so he wasn't unjustified.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on January 13, 2012, 09:02:53 PM
Whether or not you like Maron, this week's Steven Wright interview is indisputably great.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: AllSussedOut on January 16, 2012, 05:28:57 PM
What a wonderful interview with Todd Glass.  A+ all the way.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lemon Session on January 17, 2012, 12:56:28 AM
What a wonderful interview with Todd Glass.  A+ all the way.

Seriously! I remember Daniel Tosh joking about how Todd Glass was gay on his show once -- that must've been crazy for Glass to have watched that before he came out.

I thought that Tosh was too many gay jokes; it was bordering on homophobic. And then it turns out he's gay too.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on January 17, 2012, 08:03:14 AM
What a wonderful interview with Todd Glass.  A+ all the way.

Seriously! I remember Daniel Tosh joking about how Todd Glass was gay on his show once -- that must've been crazy for Glass to have watched that before he came out.

I thought that Tosh was too many gay jokes; it was bordering on homophobic. And then it turns out he's gay too.

I wasn't sure if that ending was a true statement or Todd making a joke about all the speculation on Tosh's sexuality. Or is Tosh actually out?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Greggulator on January 17, 2012, 12:31:25 PM
Ditto on the Todd Glass interview. Super touching from a really great comic. A few of my Philly comic friends know Todd really well (I've never met him) and swear that he's one of the nicest, most genuine guys of all-time.

I want someone else to come out on WTF. But instead of coming out as gay, I want someone to come out as a Republican.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 17, 2012, 04:01:09 PM
My wife and I met Todd Glass after a show at the Bloomington Comedy Club, the Comedy Attic. My wife poked her head into the green room area, which I'm sure we weren't supposed to do, and said 'good job gentlemen' to Todd and the middle guy. We turned to go but Todd insisted we come on in and we talked for quite some time. He is extremely nice and just naturally funny. I actually haven't heard the WTF with him yet, but will listen to it now.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on January 17, 2012, 09:39:59 PM
What a wonderful interview with Todd Glass.  A+ all the way.

Seriously! I remember Daniel Tosh joking about how Todd Glass was gay on his show once -- that must've been crazy for Glass to have watched that before he came out.

I thought that Tosh was too many gay jokes; it was bordering on homophobic. And then it turns out he's gay too.

I wasn't sure if that ending was a true statement or Todd making a joke about all the speculation on Tosh's sexuality. Or is Tosh actually out?

He said he's been with his partner for 15 years and I assume Tosh to be in his early thirties so that seems like it'd be stretching it. I'm betting Todd is getting a big kick out of the fact that he was even able to get people speculating.

Fantastic interview. His philosophy of 'leave everybody the fuck alone' is well worth taking to heart.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: InspectorHound on January 17, 2012, 09:40:28 PM
I want someone else to come out on WTF. But instead of coming out as gay, I want someone to come out as a Republican.

I think Adam Carollo's already been on.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on January 19, 2012, 02:31:26 PM
Fast Freddy Stoller..what a guy. ''Will never be on Nerdist now'' oh well. I would love to hear Fred taking calls on the Best Show.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on January 20, 2012, 01:38:36 PM
Jeez I am listening to the Aubry Plaza interview and he just praised Red State. Don't know what to think about that.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 20, 2012, 09:40:35 PM
I was entertained by Red State. I wonder if he will interview me?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 20, 2012, 10:42:20 PM
I've heard more than 2 people whose opinions I respect say good things about Red State. I might have to Netflix that.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 20, 2012, 11:59:53 PM
Now understand, I was entertained in a train wreck sort of way. But there were two scenes near the end that I really loved; without giving too much away, the sorta surreal thing, and its explanation.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Austin From Chicago on January 21, 2012, 10:16:08 AM
Did anyone else fell like Fred Stoller sounded like he might be Spike's vocal coach? The aural resemblance was eerie at times.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on January 21, 2012, 10:58:30 AM
Fast Freddy Stoller..what a guy. ''Will never be on Nerdist now'' oh well. I would love to hear Fred taking calls on the Best Show.

I could relate to Fred just because I also feel like in my locality I'm also considered the weird guy who's always walking.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on January 24, 2012, 01:14:38 PM
I find it hilarious that both Paul Scheer and Donald Glover have stories about recording audio of movie/tv comedy and listening to it in secret.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 07, 2012, 09:48:38 AM
Gallagher is subhuman.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 08, 2012, 10:44:46 PM
That Matt Graham interview was rough stuff.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: meamsean on February 09, 2012, 09:21:17 PM
I dunno - I'm halfway thru and enjoying what this guy has to say. He's not lighting the world on fire with insights, but I am interested in hearing his experiences about working in TV production, which is what I'm into.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on February 10, 2012, 01:12:12 AM
I dunno - I'm halfway thru and enjoying what this guy has to say. He's not lighting the world on fire with insights, but I am interested in hearing his experiences about working in TV production, which is what I'm into.

The Matt Graham interview? The second half is where shit gets really fucking rough including the saddest/most awkward and uncomfortable ending to a WTF? interview ever. I only listened to it right away because I remembered him from that Scrabble movie, but... he is troubled. I just hope he gets it together somehow.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 10, 2012, 08:37:30 AM
I dunno - I'm halfway thru and enjoying what this guy has to say. He's not lighting the world on fire with insights, but I am interested in hearing his experiences about working in TV production, which is what I'm into.

The Matt Graham interview? The second half is where shit gets really fucking rough including the saddest/most awkward and uncomfortable ending to a WTF? interview ever. I only listened to it right away because I remembered him from that Scrabble movie, but... he is troubled. I just hope he gets it together somehow.

I think he's talking about the Bill Lawrence interview (Thursday's episode) rather than Matt Graham (Monday).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on February 10, 2012, 02:11:36 PM
Haven't listened to these, but I do love the sound of a clip-on microphone hitting a table.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on February 12, 2012, 01:36:19 AM
Yeah, yikes.  I gave up on the Matt Graham one when he started calling all women cunts, and I was like, what sane person would want to date this annoying crazy dude?  Then I listened to the beginning of the Bill Lawrence interview and heard Maron talk about all the emails he was getting, so I went back.  Hoo boy.  I know he explained it pretty thoroughly, but how does one manage to do that?

On a lighter (but still kinda sad) note, I read Fred Stoller's Kindle Single from hearing his WTF interview and it was pretty great. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on February 13, 2012, 07:23:14 PM
Yeah, yikes.  I gave up on the Matt Graham one when he started calling all women cunts, and I was like, what sane person would want to date this annoying crazy dude?  Then I listened to the beginning of the Bill Lawrence interview and heard Maron talk about all the emails he was getting, so I went back.  Hoo boy.  I know he explained it pretty thoroughly, but how does one manage to do that?

On a lighter (but still kinda sad) note, I read Fred Stoller's Kindle Single from hearing his WTF interview and it was pretty great.

I thought the Matt graham interview was fascinating. Not in a good way, but I still couldn't stop listening. I'm not convinced Marc really needed to leave in the end bit where Matt essentially begs him for $50, but I also can't say that if Matt knew he was being recorded then there's no reason not to use it and again, it was weirdly compelling and sad.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: akaJudge on February 14, 2012, 12:59:28 PM
Man, I HOPE that part at the end was a bit, but it sure didn't feel like one.  I thought that guy seemed really bitter and sad.  I was not rooting for him at the end.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on February 14, 2012, 01:34:53 PM
Man, I HOPE that part at the end was a bit, but it sure didn't feel like one.  I thought that guy seemed really bitter and sad.  I was not rooting for him at the end.

No it didn't. But like someone else up in here said, he knew that he was talking into a microphone; he actually came back to add that Afterword. It was hard to listen to.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on February 15, 2012, 08:27:59 AM
The Nick Lowe interview was a delight. There is no musician I have more love for than him, and he and Marc seemed to get along well.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on February 18, 2012, 07:27:37 PM
According to Maron's Twitter feed coming soon: Maron vs Wayne Coyne...

That should be great. Even if you don't care for The Flaming Lips, Wayne seems like one of the genuinely nicest and coolest guys around...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on February 19, 2012, 10:39:23 AM
Man, I HOPE that part at the end was a bit, but it sure didn't feel like one.  I thought that guy seemed really bitter and sad.  I was not rooting for him at the end.

As do I. I was kinda turned off by the bit near the beginning of the final part when he was discussing the woman he met. If this part is true, he might want to think about two things:
1) If you're doing comedy about what a loser you are AND you think you're a loser, many women will get turned off...
2) Many women aren't into guys who actually view women as "soul crushing cunts"...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 20, 2012, 10:08:15 PM
Finally got to the Matt Graham interview. Pretty tough sledding all the way, although by the end my mind was mentally filtering out 'you know'. Tragic really, a classic case of somebody with raw talent and intellect just never getting it together.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 21, 2012, 01:47:03 PM
The Marc and Tom Show!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just started!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Vic 4 on February 21, 2012, 04:38:06 PM
^ I was just about to post about this.  I'm extremely excited about the Marc and Tom Show!  It's the first thing on my schedule for tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on February 21, 2012, 05:07:34 PM
The Marc and Tom Show!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just started!

What's the Marc & Tom show? Is Tom on WTF or vice-versa?

HELP! CONFUSED!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 21, 2012, 05:34:59 PM
Check the WTF updates. The newest ep is with Tom.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Vic 4 on February 21, 2012, 05:36:13 PM
The Marc and Tom Show!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just started!


What's the Marc & Tom show? Is Tom on WTF or vice-versa?

HELP! CONFUSED!


www.wtfpod.com/dispatches/entries/the_marc_tom_show (http://www.wtfpod.com/dispatches/entries/the_marc_tom_show)

The post states it's neither WTF nor Best Show but something entirely different.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on February 22, 2012, 12:21:22 PM
"You want me to ruin Moby Dick for you?"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on February 23, 2012, 01:21:30 AM
"You want me to ruin Moby Dick for you?"

Short riff, long drum solo.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 23, 2012, 10:19:30 AM
I know opinion is pretty divided on the merits of the live episodes, but the recent Boston show is one of my all-time favorite WTF episodes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lemon Session on February 23, 2012, 04:47:26 PM
"You ever met a hobo who wanted to stay a hobo?" - Best quote regarding Tom Waits ever
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: akaJudge on February 23, 2012, 10:21:56 PM
"You want me to ruin Moby Dick for you?"

I snarfed when I heard that.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: akaJudge on February 23, 2012, 10:22:20 PM
Also, dammit I love Tom Waits.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on February 24, 2012, 08:10:59 AM
"You ever met a hobo who wanted to stay a hobo?" - Best quote regarding Tom Waits ever


I haven't, but I've seen a few musicians who've found such a rich vein of expression in the history of American downbeat vernacular music that they voluntarily mine it for an entire career of prolific creativity.

But then, Tom doesn't like Tom Waits because he thinks he's a phoney.  He prefers people who keep it real, like this guy:

(http://worldofwonder.net/2009/07/10/8e41d55b_620.jpg)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 24, 2012, 08:44:47 AM
I don't want to argue about Tom Waits, because honestly who cares? However, I will say that the line between "being a phoney" and "having a persona" is one that I guess I am unable to detect.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Barry in Ireland on February 24, 2012, 08:57:45 AM
I don't want to argue about Tom Waits, because honestly who cares? However, I will say that the line between "being a phoney" and "having a persona" is one that I guess I am unable to detect.

I guess when that persona is based on the representation of some sort of "authentic" experience that is completely divorced from your actual situation, it starts to become a problem.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on February 24, 2012, 10:22:16 AM
Tom Waits doesn't pretend to be an "authentic" hobo.  His music is arty as all hell.  Captain Beefheart spent his first 13 years in Glendale and was a child art prodigy; did the persona/phoney issue become a problem for him when he started drawing inspiration from Delta bluesmen and urban free-jazz skronkers?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 24, 2012, 10:38:10 AM
It's not like Waits dumpster dives. He just lives a modest lifestyle and subscribes to nothing fancy. I think he has his own voice and it is what it is. Oh and I love it, but of course I don't find Albert Brooks funny, remember? So what do I know?

If we want to talk about dumb celebrities with phoney appearances let's talk Johnny Depp. That guy actually has holes in his clothes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 24, 2012, 12:07:44 PM
Likes: Tom Waits, Albert Brooks

Dislikes: Bob Seger, Tim and Eric

Like what you like, just don't be a pretentious asshole about it. And no, that's not directed at any specific person.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lemon Session on February 24, 2012, 03:21:43 PM
Tom Waits is awful -- if he's not doing cheesy piano ballads, it's dorky, dark clown music. Bad bad bad. Deal with it.

How about we go back to what I was originally commenting on -- that genius show Tom and Marc did together?

The reaction to that joke reminds me of the over-the-too backlash to the guy who posted the video of Paul McCartney farting during the Grammys -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpIzkXSwFb0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpIzkXSwFb0)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on February 24, 2012, 03:42:25 PM
The reaction to that joke reminds me of the over-the-too backlash to the guy who posted the video of Paul McCartney farting during the Grammys -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpIzkXSwFb0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpIzkXSwFb0)

Not really all that similar.  Those are people taking to their fainting couch that anyone would show disrespect to an icon.  Here, it's more like if you're going to criticize a widely respected artist, at least make solid points rather than flimsy ones.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lemon Session on February 24, 2012, 04:06:07 PM
The reaction to that joke reminds me of the over-the-too backlash to the guy who posted the video of Paul McCartney farting during the Grammys -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpIzkXSwFb0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpIzkXSwFb0)

Not really all that similar.  Those are people taking to their fainting couch that anyone would show disrespect to an icon.  Here, it's more like if you're going to criticize a widely respected artist, at least make solid points rather than flimsy ones.

Saying Tom Waits is a wannabe hobo crooner is both solid and hilarious. Not everybody likes him and there are plenty of good reasons why that is, the main one being that his songs are pretty bad. It's a pretty easy concept to accept.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 24, 2012, 04:38:11 PM
There's a new troll in town (I don't wanna hear it)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: fonpr on February 24, 2012, 06:16:00 PM
A)  It's not like Waits dumpster dives. He just lives a modest lifestyle and subscribes to nothing fancy.

B)  That guy actually has holes in his clothes.
A)  Great point.  And he let's his old lady have her privacy.

B)  If the clothes are comfortable, who cares?

Not me, Man.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on February 24, 2012, 06:47:47 PM
I did a search for Nothing Fancy magazine on Amazon and came up empty.  Can one of you help?

I found Puppet Fancy.  *Shudder*
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: akaJudge on February 24, 2012, 08:34:39 PM
The hobo quote was hilarious, by the way.  No matter how much I like something, if Tom makes fun of it I laugh my ass off.  Believe me, he hates TONS of stuff I like.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on February 24, 2012, 10:17:58 PM
I know opinion is pretty divided on the merits of the live episodes, but the recent Boston show is one of my all-time favorite WTF episodes.

I just listened to this and while I can usually take or leave the live shows I agree that one was fantastic.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 25, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
The reaction to that joke reminds me of the over-the-too backlash to the guy who posted the video of Paul McCartney farting during the Grammys -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpIzkXSwFb0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpIzkXSwFb0)

Not really all that similar.  Those are people taking to their fainting couch that anyone would show disrespect to an icon.  Here, it's more like if you're going to criticize a widely respected artist, at least make solid points rather than flimsy ones.

Saying Tom Waits is a wannabe hobo crooner is both solid and hilarious. Not everybody likes him and there are plenty of good reasons why that is, the main one being that his songs are pretty bad. It's a pretty easy concept to accept.

Yeh I guess you're pretty much pretty right.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lemon Session on February 25, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
Prettay prettay good
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: JuanCarlos on February 27, 2012, 01:05:06 AM
I really the Marc and Tom show. And regardless of their life plans or any other nonsense, I want it daily syndicated on multiple streams (free in archive, a monthly/yearly fee if you want to be babysat by Marc and Tom during your commute).

Tom is a perfect match for Marc in terms of comedy and radio talent, but more importantly chemistry. He could be the Howard to his Artie (during the first two great years on Satellite before the ugly stuff) lovingly tempering Marc's crankiness with his own, also providing a conrast to Marc's admitted "Rawer" ultra-intimate style with Tom's just-as-cerebral silliness (I'm going to very conservatively predict at least one more puppet before the year ends).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Flood on February 27, 2012, 01:31:46 AM
I like Tom Waits, if not for anything then for this:

Tom Waits/Cookie Monster mashup - God's Away On Business (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5X4N2exOsU#)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Austin From Chicago on March 02, 2012, 07:48:30 PM
The Paul Gilmartin episode made me incredibly tense.

Oh, and Diablo Cody STILL stinks as a writer; I don't care how much Maron's interview with her made her seem somewhat likeable. I wish she wouldn't rely on the "people don't like me because I'm pretty and used to be a stripper!" thing. Objectively, the dialogue in the movies she's written really sucks, and I thought so long before I even knew she used to be a stripper.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: RonJon on March 04, 2012, 11:01:25 AM
Yeah, I watched the first 1/3, or so, of Young Adult last night and it was rough.  I really hope Patton gets some more face-time in the last 2/3 of that thing or it's gonna be a long 60 minutes.  The storyline with the ex was driving me crazy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: jbissell on March 05, 2012, 12:02:52 PM
Yeah, I watched the first 1/3, or so, of Young Adult last night and it was rough.  I really hope Patton gets some more face-time in the last 2/3 of that thing or it's gonna be a long 60 minutes.  The storyline with the ex was driving me crazy.

Stick with it, Patton gets some great moments.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: hardweek on March 05, 2012, 12:14:59 PM
Enjoyed the Marc & Tom Show alot. The menace of the phantom phone, indeed!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Treeclimber on March 07, 2012, 12:02:52 PM
I loved hearing Nick Offerman's weird laugh
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mr. Colin on March 09, 2012, 03:48:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCeMiP2zgtM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCeMiP2zgtM)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Barry in Ireland on March 09, 2012, 06:31:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCeMiP2zgtM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCeMiP2zgtM)

There's some above-average facial hair in that video. Well done to all concerned.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on March 09, 2012, 11:32:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCeMiP2zgtM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCeMiP2zgtM)

There's some above-average facial hair in that video. Well done to all concerned.

Tammi Littlenut!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on March 10, 2012, 12:44:53 AM
Some of these new music videos seem like they're all about just getting a bunch of cool people together. You spend the whole video recognizing people then realize at the end that you weren't paying attention to the video or the song.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on March 12, 2012, 04:23:25 PM
The Mindy Kaling episode? That didn't seem to go well...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on March 12, 2012, 09:11:08 PM
The Mindy Kaling episode? That didn't seem to go well...

It didn't? It seemed OK to me.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lemon Session on March 12, 2012, 10:18:57 PM
I have a feeling she didn't realize how defensive and harsh-sounding she was during it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on March 13, 2012, 09:45:47 AM
I haven't finished it yet but so far it just sounds like they're simply not connecting on a basic level and both are having trouble staying interested. It was funny to me when she brought up the Matt and Ben thing and he just moved on without asking about it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on March 17, 2012, 07:46:42 PM
Objectively, the dialogue in the movies she's written really sucks, and I thought so long before I even knew she used to be a stripper.

I tend to agree with you. After seeing "Juno" (and fighting the urge to leave during the first 40 or so minutes) I suddenly realized why some people hate the dialogue in "Pulp Fiction"...

That said, "Juno" I thought had a really satisfying ending and the scenes between Bateman and Garner I quite liked...

Has the stripper business ever been verified? For some reason I just never believed that...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on March 18, 2012, 05:13:12 PM
Has the stripper business ever been verified? For some reason I just never believed that...

She wrote a book about it ... I don't know of any accusations that she made that stuff up.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on March 21, 2012, 06:45:37 PM
Here's A Day In The Life of Marc Maron: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/12/marc-maron-hulu-a-day-in-the-life_n_1340130.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/12/marc-maron-hulu-a-day-in-the-life_n_1340130.html)

Man I had a completely different picture of his setup in my head.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on March 21, 2012, 07:17:13 PM
IFC did a series order for his semi-autobiographical series, which is great news for him. I'll be interested to see if it has any effect on the podcast.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on March 21, 2012, 09:26:31 PM
IFC did a series order for his semi-autobiographical series, which is great news for him. I'll be interested to see if it has any effect on the podcast.

I've seen the pilot, and it's very good.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on March 24, 2012, 01:14:20 AM
I was kinda bummed the Offerman didn't get into his ties to Austin and his work with Bob Byington.

Somebody Up There Likes Me - SXSW 2012 Accepted Film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hptxBJLUWz4&feature=relmfu#ws)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: MC Shakespeare on March 27, 2012, 08:14:59 PM
Michael Cera is a charming dude. I also completely agree with him on Ricky Gervais. It made me go re-watch some Office episodes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on March 28, 2012, 01:03:11 AM
Ricky is in a weird place lately, Michael Cera seems way too normal, he reminds me of Michael Palin in that way.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on March 28, 2012, 08:05:51 AM
My favorite part of the Cera interview was the story of introducing his mother to Jeffrey Tambor.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on March 28, 2012, 09:05:45 AM
When Maron talks to people outside his wheelhouse like Michael Cera- younger, successful, not exactly in stand-up- he tends to roll over his guests' attempts to answer by beginning another question.  It's not necessarily a  bad thing exactly, more conversational than rude, but I get the impression Maron's not really listening if he asks no follow-ups or moves on to another point.  Example: he asks Cera about the British comedy he likes then interjects that "yeah, I'm not wired for British comedy", which for WTF listeners we know. Woulda been nice to hear more of Cera's opinion of good Brit-coms instead of getting misdirected cuz the host lost interest. 

But that's Maron being Maron, he is who he is and I'm still a fan.  On the other hand, I kind of enjoy when an old-timer like Fred Willard won't get out of the way of his own storytelling and Maron has to buckle down to get a word in.  Also, the WTF with Mary Mack was quite charming.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on March 29, 2012, 01:36:03 PM
The new one with Jeffrey Tamboor might be the best episode ever. Here's a photo of the ridiculous chairs they were complaining about.

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/537072/WTF.jpg)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on March 29, 2012, 05:45:35 PM
The Tambor interview definitely has one of the best opening exchanges in the podcast's history:

Maron: How are you doing?
Tambor: That's none of your business.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Alex P. on March 29, 2012, 06:46:13 PM
These two.

(http://aspecialthing.com/images/ASTnews/maron_ck_89.jpg)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on March 30, 2012, 10:19:28 AM
Ricky is in a weird place lately, Michael Cera seems way too normal, he reminds me of Michael Palin in that way.

Yeah, that's true. But am I the only person who gets this kinda Bob Newhart vibe from Cera?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on March 30, 2012, 10:21:50 AM
The new one with Jeffrey Tamboor might be the best episode ever. Here's a photo of the ridiculous chairs they were complaining about.

([url]http://i.huffpost.com/gen/537072/WTF.jpg[/url])


Oh, God... Those are like some set of wacky prop chairs to make it look like Maron is growing an Tambor is shrinking...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on March 30, 2012, 12:13:07 PM
Saw Tambor on the street one time.  Very tall.  Very nebbishy.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Keith Whitener on April 02, 2012, 12:07:02 PM
Marc Maron for the Time's 100 most influential people?!
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2107952_2107953_2109989,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2107952_2107953_2109989,00.html)

Our votes can help make this happen!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on April 03, 2012, 10:21:01 AM
Marc Maron for the Time's 100 most influential people?!
[url]http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2107952_2107953_2109989,00.html[/url] ([url]http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2107952_2107953_2109989,00.html[/url])

Our votes can help make this happen!

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that this voting seems to be more of a referendum on how much Time's readership likes these people than how "influential" they are. Thus Benedict Cumberbatch (TV's Sherlock Holmes) is overwhelmingly "yes" and Vladimir Putin "no".
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on April 05, 2012, 10:29:13 AM
Chris Elliott next week!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on April 05, 2012, 12:25:54 PM
Chris Elliott next week!

OMGOMGOMG One of my favorite people ever.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ben on April 09, 2012, 07:11:14 AM
Listened to a bit of the Jon Glaser episode.  Was that supposed to be a joke when they complained about the sound of the camera crew, and then the next ten plus minutes were Glaser chewing loudly and clanking his silverware? 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on April 09, 2012, 07:49:01 AM
Listened to a bit of the Jon Glaser episode.  Was that supposed to be a joke when they complained about the sound of the camera crew, and then the next ten plus minutes were Glaser chewing loudly and clanking his silverware?


Holy CRAP.  That nearly did me in.  The sound of chewing/drinking on mic like hearing a baby cry or a Hitler speech or autotune.  It's right up there with the worst stuff. 

I'm glad I stuck that one out, though.  Nearly bailed, honestly--too much chomp chomp chomp. 

The story RIGHT near the end was really touching. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SJK on April 09, 2012, 01:36:41 PM
Listened to a bit of the Jon Glaser episode.  Was that supposed to be a joke when they complained about the sound of the camera crew, and then the next ten plus minutes were Glaser chewing loudly and clanking his silverware?
Yes, they were joking about the sound of the camera crew. Maybe not the best episode for headphones. I thought this episode was great. The story at the end, like Ike said, was very moving. When Tom was making fun of podcast sound quality awhile back, I didn't fully understand his problem. My podcast listening is contained to just a few. Over the past few years I have been listening to these 'best of podcast' lists, trying out new stuff that I had never heard before. When it becomes apparent that there is absolutely no control over audio quality, I dismiss it almost immediately. Usually I think I would choose content over form. I guess not when it comes to a podcast. The Glaser episode was not a problem for me in any way.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on April 09, 2012, 02:58:21 PM
He did the same thing when he was on Best Show a couple of years ago - it was hilarious. Still one of my fave guests Tom's ever had on.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ben on April 09, 2012, 08:54:47 PM
Listened to a bit of the Jon Glaser episode.  Was that supposed to be a joke when they complained about the sound of the camera crew, and then the next ten plus minutes were Glaser chewing loudly and clanking his silverware?


Holy CRAP.  That nearly did me in.  The sound of chewing/drinking on mic like hearing a baby cry or a Hitler speech or autotune.  It's right up there with the worst stuff. 

I'm glad I stuck that one out, though.  Nearly bailed, honestly--too much chomp chomp chomp. 

The story RIGHT near the end was really touching.

That story was amazing.

Also, I miss DracSearch.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on April 09, 2012, 10:21:12 PM

Also, I miss DracSearch.


Aw, don't be sad!!!

Bleh. (http://themoonshake.com/dracsearch/)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ben on April 10, 2012, 12:34:52 AM

Also, I miss DracSearch.


Aw, don't be sad!!!

Bleh. ([url]http://themoonshake.com/dracsearch/[/url])


Oh thanks!  I searched for it and couldn't find it. 

Bleh!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: SJK on April 10, 2012, 06:58:10 AM
I don't mean to be a braggart, it's still one of the options in my search window for firefox. I don't remember how it got there...was it an extension? plugin? It's still works and has been making me laugh this morning. Oh, the internet/FOT.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on April 10, 2012, 09:17:02 AM

Also, I miss DracSearch.


Aw, don't be sad!!!

Bleh. ([url]http://themoonshake.com/dracsearch/[/url])

Oh thanks!  I searched for it and couldn't find it. 
Bleh!


Here's the show it comes from-


February 10, 2009: An In Studio Appearance By Jon Glaser, The Star Of DELOCATED, A Very Exciting And Troubling Call From Pilot Hero Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger, A Little Bit Of Comic Con Talk And More! Bleh!


Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on April 11, 2012, 04:42:25 AM
I really enjoyed the David Cross talk.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Alex P. on April 11, 2012, 04:14:01 PM
I really enjoyed the David Cross talk.

His words about Bob really surprised me. I got a "bitter coworkers who barely talked" kind of vibe.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on April 11, 2012, 05:05:28 PM
I haven't listened to that episode of WTF yet, but I don't think Bob & David could be that bitter with each other - they just did a show together at the Vancouver comedy festival a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on April 11, 2012, 07:37:56 PM
I haven't listened to that episode of WTF yet, but I don't think Bob & David could be that bitter with each other - they just did a show together at the Vancouver comedy festival a couple of weeks ago.

According to other things I've read on their history together, their relationship has always been a little prickly and maybe they are honest to a fault with one another, but not bitter. Kind of a brotherly thing. It actually seems very healthy to me, as creative partnerships go.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on April 11, 2012, 07:58:35 PM
Easily the best David Cross interview I've ever heard, loved it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Alex P. on April 11, 2012, 08:06:41 PM
Easily the best David Cross interview I've ever heard, loved it.

That bit where he was talking about his father was the best moment since the whole Todd Glass interview.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on April 13, 2012, 03:47:16 PM
Bob and David are perfect together.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on April 13, 2012, 09:47:07 PM
Martin speaks the truth, more Bob & David shows...Kickstarter? Anyway just more, c'mon entertainment!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on April 14, 2012, 12:08:22 PM
Maybe a sitcom with Tobias Funke and Saul Goodman? The Extremely Odd Couple?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: wood and iron on April 17, 2012, 10:07:04 PM
Re: Stephen Merchant episode. I'm about twenty minutes in but seriously, I know England is the scary place with comedy that you can't get into, Marc, but would it kill you to do a little bit of research so you're not just asking questions to a stranger at random?

"So, how did you get famous?" Ugh.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: bananagrabbers on April 17, 2012, 10:10:42 PM
So, everyone caught the exciting news that we're getting another Marc and Tom episode soon, right?  Yay!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on April 18, 2012, 12:25:31 AM
Re: Stephen Merchant episode. I'm about twenty minutes in but seriously, I know England is the scary place with comedy that you can't get into, Marc, but would it kill you to do a little bit of research so you're not just asking questions to a stranger at random?

"So, how did you get famous?" Ugh.

Wikipedia was down that day, y'know.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Omar on April 18, 2012, 08:02:00 AM
Re: Stephen Merchant episode. I'm about twenty minutes in but seriously, I know England is the scary place with comedy that you can't get into, Marc, but would it kill you to do a little bit of research so you're not just asking questions to a stranger at random?

"So, how did you get famous?" Ugh.

Wikipedia was down that day, y'know.

Maron obviously wants a loosey-goosey, chatting-in-the-garage vibe, but he could certainly tighten up his preparation for guests that he may not know that well.  For example, he asked Carrie Brownstein if anyone from Sleater-Kinney was in Wild Flag.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: wood and iron on April 18, 2012, 08:14:18 AM
Re: Stephen Merchant episode. I'm about twenty minutes in but seriously, I know England is the scary place with comedy that you can't get into, Marc, but would it kill you to do a little bit of research so you're not just asking questions to a stranger at random?

"So, how did you get famous?" Ugh.

Wikipedia was down that day, y'know.

Yeah I heard that on the episode. It's not like he couldn't have done some research...the day before.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on April 18, 2012, 09:24:36 AM
Re: Stephen Merchant episode. I'm about twenty minutes in but seriously, I know England is the scary place with comedy that you can't get into, Marc, but would it kill you to do a little bit of research so you're not just asking questions to a stranger at random?

"So, how did you get famous?" Ugh.
Wikipedia was down that day, y'know.
Maron obviously wants a loosey-goosey, chatting-in-the-garage vibe, but he could certainly tighten up his preparation for guests that he may not know that well.  For example, he asked Carrie Brownstein if anyone from Sleater-Kinney was in Wild Flag.

I felt embarassed for Maron in the Carrie Brownstein WTF b/c he came off sounding like a classic-rock DJ trying to relate to the new rock music.  Also, no recognition of Mary Timony of Helium, maybe he was out of Boston by the time they did their thing there.

The Steve Merchant WTF was pretty good but I agree: there's a lot of "What's England like?" talk.  Whenever Brit comedy comes up he gets real antsy.  In the Michael Cera WTF he asked what Brit-com shows he watched (when MC brought the subject up) when Maron interrupted him mid-answer with a different question. 

Still, I've followed Maron through his Conan appearances through all the Air America shows up to this so I've accepted him for who he is- extremely funny, brutally honest but with deep flaws. 

When the Kevin Hart WTF arrives tomorrow I wouldn't be surprised if Maron asks him if he's got an entourage like he did another black comedian Chris Rock.  (Maron forgets he himself was in one- Sam Kinison's)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Martin on April 18, 2012, 01:14:16 PM
As always, Omar speaks the truth.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dan of Orange on April 18, 2012, 06:30:40 PM
If Marc hasn't appreciated the more subtle British comedies at this point, I guess it's not happening any time soon and is it possible the occasional guest has become available at short notice therefore not leaving much time for research? I struggle to give any criticism to the mighty mighty MM.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: wood and iron on April 18, 2012, 06:52:48 PM
After finishing the episode I will say that I really enjoyed the interview with Stephen Merchant. They went to interesting places with the discussion. It was just the beginning when it seemed like it was going to be a straight career rundown that Marc's lack of research and complete disengagement from British comedy was a hindrance.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: crumbum on April 19, 2012, 08:00:15 AM
After finishing the episode I will say that I really enjoyed the interview with Stephen Merchant. They went to interesting places with the discussion. It was just the beginning when it seemed like it was going to be a straight career rundown that Marc's lack of research and complete disengagement from British comedy was a hindrance.

My only problem with it was the lack of discussion of any post-2007 work (I think that's when Extras ended). He and Gervais have had a feature film and a new show which were both pretty reviled, and I'd like to hear Merchant's thoughts on the backlash. Obviously that's a tough place for an interviewer to go to, but Marc usually seems willing and can be tactful. If only he knew about anything other than the Office and Extras.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ben on April 20, 2012, 02:18:46 AM
I agree with pretty much everything that's been said about the Stephen Merchant (and Carrie Brownstein) episodes.  But you're burying the lead, as they say.  The most important thing from the Merchant episode was the news that another Marc and Tom show has already been recorded! 

 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Alex P. on April 22, 2012, 10:50:28 PM
If I could have anything in the world, it would be a genuine, straight-faced WTF interview with Tim & Eric.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on April 27, 2012, 02:07:09 PM
A combative Maron takes on the fake judgey 50-something Jewish housewives of Marblehead, MA
in the latest Ronna & Beverly Podcast.  Usually guests are stuck 3 or 4 sentences behind the improvers but Maron's turned the tables and has them in a tizzy.


http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ronna-beverly/id440285955 (http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ronna-beverly/id440285955)

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Released Apr 27, 2012

What a downer Marc Maron is! He just insists on talking about his ex-wives and dark past and even tries to insinuate dirty things about Ronna's children! This whole trip to Los Angeles has been a bust! Hopefully we'll have a cheerier episode with a nice family man soon!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on April 27, 2012, 02:56:27 PM
Thanks for the tip, it's always fun to hear Marc in other contexts. I've never heard Ronna & Beverly but I'm kinda surprised that people are still doing "jewish mom" schtick.

A combative Maron takes on the fake judgey 50-something Jewish housewives of Marblehead, MA
in the latest Ronna & Beverly Podcast.  Usually guests are stuck 3 or 4 sentences behind the improvers but Maron's turned the tables and has them in a tizzy.


[url]http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ronna-beverly/id440285955[/url] ([url]http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ronna-beverly/id440285955[/url])

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Released Apr 27, 2012

What a downer Marc Maron is! He just insists on talking about his ex-wives and dark past and even tries to insinuate dirty things about Ronna's children! This whole trip to Los Angeles has been a bust! Hopefully we'll have a cheerier episode with a nice family man soon!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on April 27, 2012, 03:35:22 PM
Wow they are really good at "jewish mom". Their characters are really fleshed out.

Thanks for the tip, it's always fun to hear Marc in other contexts. I've never heard Ronna & Beverly but I'm kinda surprised that people are still doing "jewish mom" schtick.

A combative Maron takes on the fake judgey 50-something Jewish housewives of Marblehead, MA
in the latest Ronna & Beverly Podcast.  Usually guests are stuck 3 or 4 sentences behind the improvers but Maron's turned the tables and has them in a tizzy.


[url]http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ronna-beverly/id440285955[/url] ([url]http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ronna-beverly/id440285955[/url])

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Released Apr 27, 2012

What a downer Marc Maron is! He just insists on talking about his ex-wives and dark past and even tries to insinuate dirty things about Ronna's children! This whole trip to Los Angeles has been a bust! Hopefully we'll have a cheerier episode with a nice family man soon!

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mike_b on April 27, 2012, 03:38:40 PM
I can definitively vouch for the laser-like accuracy of Ronna and Beverly, because it gives me the same specific kind of tired I get at family functions.  That is not a criticism.

Also holy shit, Kevin Hart, blow your dang nose!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on April 27, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
The Bob Zmuda interview is one of the Top 5 WTFs.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Ike on April 30, 2012, 01:27:18 PM
The Bob Zmuda interview is one of the Top 5 WTFs.

And I would put the Chelsea Handler diametrically the opposite of the Zmuda one.  Horrible.  Maron's got nothing to do with why it's bad, either. 

I was looking forward to this, too, for some reason. 

Ugh. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: danner on April 30, 2012, 02:04:43 PM
The Wayne Coyne episode is set to drop Thursday. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on April 30, 2012, 02:50:09 PM
The Wayne Coyne episode is set to drop Thursday. Should be interesting.

I hope it's better than the James Mercer one. It never felt like those two really connected.

The Zmuda episode actually made me want to re-listen to the Ron Shock episode, which I remember being similar.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: cavorting with nudists on April 30, 2012, 04:23:05 PM
Oh, Man.  This Zmuda is killin.'
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on April 30, 2012, 07:58:34 PM
The Bob Zmuda interview is one of the Top 5 WTFs.

If you read his book it's a lot of the same stories, but I still loved it. Like how we'd go minutes at a time w/o Marc saying anything but "C'mon..." I also love how Bob stuck to the old pro wrestling philosophy known as "kayfabe" when talking about Tony Clifton and Andy's death. I think we all know the truth, but it's more fun to have some doubt.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on April 30, 2012, 10:00:43 PM
The Bob Zmuda interview is one of the Top 5 WTFs.

If you read his book it's a lot of the same stories, but I still loved it. Like how we'd go minutes at a time w/o Marc saying anything but "C'mon..." I also love how Bob stuck to the old pro wrestling philosophy known as "kayfabe" when talking about Tony Clifton and Andy's death. I think we all know the truth, but it's more fun to have some doubt.

I haven't read the book. Is it worth reading after listening to the interview? That Norman Wexler in the bakery story was SO good.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on April 30, 2012, 10:51:34 PM
I haven't read the book. Is it worth reading after listening to the interview? That Norman Wexler in the bakery story was SO good.

Noticed this on Norman Wexler's IMDB page:

***STARmeter: Up 700% in popularity this week. See why on IMDbPro.***

I think we know why.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on April 30, 2012, 11:54:35 PM
The Bob Zmuda interview is one of the Top 5 WTFs.

If you read his book it's a lot of the same stories, but I still loved it. Like how we'd go minutes at a time w/o Marc saying anything but "C'mon..." I also love how Bob stuck to the old pro wrestling philosophy known as "kayfabe" when talking about Tony Clifton and Andy's death. I think we all know the truth, but it's more fun to have some doubt.

I haven't read the book. Is it worth reading after listening to the interview? That Norman Wexler in the bakery story was SO good.

He covers a lot of the same ground as he does in the interview, but if you're prepared for that I'd say it's worth reading.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 01, 2012, 12:17:39 AM
I haven't read the book. Is it worth reading after listening to the interview? That Norman Wexler in the bakery story was SO good.

Noticed this on Norman Wexler's IMDB page:

***STARmeter: Up 700% in popularity this week. See why on IMDbPro.***

I think we know why.

That is fantastic.  I agree, it was an epic episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 01, 2012, 10:01:10 AM
The Bob Zmuda interview is one of the Top 5 WTFs.

If you read his book it's a lot of the same stories, but I still loved it. Like how we'd go minutes at a time w/o Marc saying anything but "C'mon..." I also love how Bob stuck to the old pro wrestling philosophy known as "kayfabe" when talking about Tony Clifton and Andy's death. I think we all know the truth, but it's more fun to have some doubt.

I haven't read the book. Is it worth reading after listening to the interview? That Norman Wexler in the bakery story was SO good.

He covers a lot of the same ground as he does in the interview, but if you're prepared for that I'd say it's worth reading.

I read the book sometime ago and would agree it's worth checking out. I also very much enjoyed the interview even though I had heard many of those stories in the book.

Now on the topic of the movie, though, it had some great moments, but the montage where they used the actual cast members from Taxi as themselves has always stuck with me, and not in a good way. Although maybe that was a clever call back to the 'here's one of the girls from the 'The Spurs Go Jingle Jangle Jingle' re-enacting her role in the film clip'. OK, now I guess it was brilliant. Well done.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on May 02, 2012, 08:08:39 PM
The Bob Zmuda interview is one of the Top 5 WTFs.

If you read his book it's a lot of the same stories, but I still loved it. Like how we'd go minutes at a time w/o Marc saying anything but "C'mon..." I also love how Bob stuck to the old pro wrestling philosophy known as "kayfabe" when talking about Tony Clifton and Andy's death. I think we all know the truth, but it's more fun to have some doubt.

I haven't read the book. Is it worth reading after listening to the interview? That Norman Wexler in the bakery story was SO good.

He covers a lot of the same ground as he does in the interview, but if you're prepared for that I'd say it's worth reading.

I read the book sometime ago and would agree it's worth checking out. I also very much enjoyed the interview even though I had heard many of those stories in the book.

Now on the topic of the movie, though, it had some great moments, but the montage where they used the actual cast members from Taxi as themselves has always stuck with me, and not in a good way. Although maybe that was a clever call back to the 'here's one of the girls from the 'The Spurs Go Jingle Jangle Jingle' re-enacting her role in the film clip'. OK, now I guess it was brilliant. Well done.

It just bugged me that Danny Devito wsn't there because he was playing another character in the movie. It would seem to imply that in the Man On the Moon-verse there are two guys who look exactly like Danny Devito.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 03, 2012, 12:22:23 AM
The Bob Zmuda interview is one of the Top 5 WTFs.

If you read his book it's a lot of the same stories, but I still loved it. Like how we'd go minutes at a time w/o Marc saying anything but "C'mon..." I also love how Bob stuck to the old pro wrestling philosophy known as "kayfabe" when talking about Tony Clifton and Andy's death. I think we all know the truth, but it's more fun to have some doubt.

I haven't read the book. Is it worth reading after listening to the interview? That Norman Wexler in the bakery story was SO good.

He covers a lot of the same ground as he does in the interview, but if you're prepared for that I'd say it's worth reading.

I read the book sometime ago and would agree it's worth checking out. I also very much enjoyed the interview even though I had heard many of those stories in the book.

Now on the topic of the movie, though, it had some great moments, but the montage where they used the actual cast members from Taxi as themselves has always stuck with me, and not in a good way. Although maybe that was a clever call back to the 'here's one of the girls from the 'The Spurs Go Jingle Jangle Jingle' re-enacting her role in the film clip'. OK, now I guess it was brilliant. Well done.

It just bugged me that Danny Devito wsn't there because he was playing another character in the movie. It would seem to imply that in the Man On the Moon-verse there are two guys who look exactly like Danny Devito.

Thank you for coining the term "Man-in-the-Moon-verse."  Off to write some fanfic!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on May 04, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
The Bob Zmuda interview is one of the Top 5 WTFs.

And I would put the Chelsea Handler diametrically the opposite of the Zmuda one.  Horrible.  Maron's got nothing to do with why it's bad, either. 

I was looking forward to this, too, for some reason. 

Ugh.

Agree.

Chelsea made me want to retch, while Zmuda made me want to cheer.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on May 04, 2012, 11:47:52 AM

Chelsea made me want to retch, while Zmuda made me want to cheer.
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I agree the Zmuda episode was great, so many awesome stories, but it was so annoying how he kept whispering the whole time.

I watched the "Andy at Carnegie Hall" movie on youtube afterwards and was surprised by how low budget it was - when you hear "concert at Carnegie Hall" you imagine high production values and a real big show but this was just Andy and a band and some folding chairs (?) on stage? I was also disappointed that the Rockettes were edited out of the movie for some reason.

Also Andys "I Come From Hollywood" movie is really great if you haven't seen it, it's all about his wrestling career.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Austin From Chicago on May 04, 2012, 07:30:43 PM
The Bob Zmuda interview is one of the Top 5 WTFs.

And I would put the Chelsea Handler diametrically the opposite of the Zmuda one.  Horrible.  Maron's got nothing to do with why it's bad, either. 

I was looking forward to this, too, for some reason. 

Ugh.

Agree.

Chelsea made me want to retch, while Zmuda made me want to cheer.

Agreed. I love how she got indignant and started saying stuff like "I don't believe in sexism; men and women are equals..." RIGHT in the middle of complaining about how people were spreading rumors about her sleeping with the head of the network. Um....duh.

She just seems like an extremely unlikable, unfunny person. Her appeal is a complete mystery to me.

The Wayne Coyne episode, however, was fantastic.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on May 04, 2012, 11:02:45 PM

Chelsea made me want to retch, while Zmuda made me want to cheer.

I agree the Zmuda episode was great, so many awesome stories, but it was so annoying how he kept whispering the whole time.

I watched the "Andy at Carnegie Hall" movie on youtube afterwards and was surprised by how low budget it was - when you hear "concert at Carnegie Hall" you imagine high production values and a real big show but this was just Andy and a band and some folding chairs (?) on stage? I was also disappointed that the Rockettes were edited out of the movie for some reason.

Also Andys "I Come From Hollywood" movie is really great if you haven't seen it, it's all about his wrestling career.
[/quote]

As a wrestling fan the very idea of a lifelong fan using his celebrity to go and become a heel wrestler in Memphis TN is pretty much the greatest thing ever.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on May 05, 2012, 09:52:07 AM


Chelsea made me want to retch, while Zmuda made me want to cheer.


I agree the Zmuda episode was great, so many awesome stories, but it was so annoying how he kept whispering the whole time.

I watched the "Andy at Carnegie Hall" movie on youtube afterwards and was surprised by how low budget it was - when you hear "concert at Carnegie Hall" you imagine high production values and a real big show but this was just Andy and a band and some folding chairs (?) on stage? I was also disappointed that the Rockettes were edited out of the movie for some reason.

Also Andys "I Come From Hollywood" movie is really great if you haven't seen it, it's all about his wrestling career.


As a wrestling fan the very idea of a lifelong fan using his celebrity to go and become a heel wrestler in Memphis TN is pretty much the greatest thing ever.
[/quote]

"My Breakfast with Blassie" starring Kaufman and Classy Freddie Blassie- King of Men.
Andy Kaufman -My Breakfast with Blassie pt1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFpdryhlTJc#)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Dennis on May 06, 2012, 04:37:03 AM
i finished the zmuda episode earlier today.  it was endlessly entertaining, but after hearing it, i feel like mark would agree with me that a good portion of the stories were probably embellished beyond belief.  even so, i've been recommending it all night.  it took me a few episodes to get the tone of wtf, but at this point i absolutely love it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: TheDependentClause on May 07, 2012, 10:33:30 AM
Just listened to the Wayne Coyne episode yesterday while running. I'm a fair-weather Flaming Lips fan and haven't paid much attention to them over the past few years, and almost didn't listen to this episode. But man. What a sweet, genuine guy.

I'm always impressed when artists who are famous and accomplished enough to have become complete pricks are, in fact, the opposite. Coyne has an enthusiasm for his work that 30 years of playing music hasn't diminished, at an age when many musicians, famous or not, have become irreversibly cynical. This episode was perfect for listening to while running, since it kept me motivated, even inspired.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Topher on May 08, 2012, 10:51:47 AM
The Bob Zmuda interview is one of the Top 5 WTFs.

And I would put the Chelsea Handler diametrically the opposite of the Zmuda one.  Horrible.  Maron's got nothing to do with why it's bad, either. 

I was looking forward to this, too, for some reason. 

Ugh.

Agree.

Chelsea made me want to retch, while Zmuda made me want to cheer.
Maybe it's because I heard those stories before, and the way that Zmuda has this need to hang on to them...but I really didn't like it, and found it sort of off-putting and not in keeping with the best of WTF. On the Chelsea Handler episode (in which, yes, she comes across as terrible), Marc even mentions how difficult it can be to get beyond that public persona, and how that is his goal. I thought that Zmuda thwarted Marc every time he tried to go deeper (even asking him not to be a party pooper at one point). I'm a big Zmuda/Kaufman fan, but I really didn't like this episode, obviously through no fault of Marc's.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on May 08, 2012, 12:13:46 PM
Maybe it's because I heard those stories before, and the way that Zmuda has this need to hang on to them...but I really didn't like it, and found it sort of off-putting and not in keeping with the best of WTF. On the Chelsea Handler episode (in which, yes, she comes across as terrible), Marc even mentions how difficult it can be to get beyond that public persona, and how that is his goal. I thought that Zmuda thwarted Marc every time he tried to go deeper (even asking him not to be a party pooper at one point). I'm a big Zmuda/Kaufman fan, but I really didn't like this episode, obviously through no fault of Marc's.

Agree. While it's great to hear Kaufman stories (and the one about the mad screenwriter), that just wasn't a satisfying conversation.  When Marc can only get in "yuh...yuh...yuh...uh-huh...yuh...oh c'mon...yuh...yuh..." I sensed he was frustrated- as I was listening to it. I believe it's sometimes important to stand back and let a classic old-timer tell his/her stories but there has to be some give-and-take.

Automatically deleted Handler.  Don't care about her or her world.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on May 12, 2012, 08:48:27 PM
The Wayne Coyne episode, however, was fantastic.

I agree. I've seen the Flaming lips several times over the past fifteen years or so and he's just like that on stage. Wayne just  seems like one of the coolest guys in the universe, regardless of what you think of the Lips and their various stylistic changes...

Chelsea Handler: Gag... I've only seen maybe five or ten minutes of "Chelsea Lately" but I just don't get the appeal. Plus whenever somebody talks about spending $500 on a pack of smokes I want to choke somebody...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on May 13, 2012, 05:41:40 PM
The Wayne Coyne episode, however, was fantastic.

I agree. I've seen the Flaming lips several times over the past fifteen years or so and he's just like that on stage. Wayne just  seems like one of the coolest guys in the universe, regardless of what you think of the Lips and their various stylistic changes...

Chelsea Handler: Gag... I've only seen maybe five or ten minutes of "Chelsea Lately" but I just don't get the appeal. Plus whenever somebody talks about spending $500 on a pack of smokes I want to choke somebody...

I don't see why that would bother you. If you think about it, some slob got paid $500 to deliver a pack of smokes.  Probably made his week.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on May 14, 2012, 03:06:40 PM
I always feel like everyone over reacts to how sucky the sucky people are. When I see Dane Cook or Carlos Mencia or Chelsea Handler's name on the episode list I am never expecting some huge 180.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Austin From Chicago on May 14, 2012, 08:50:02 PM
I always feel like everyone over reacts to how sucky the sucky people are. When I see Dane Cook or Carlos Mencia or Chelsea Handler's name on the episode list I am never expecting some huge 180.

Well, with Handler, I had had only passing contact with her career, i.e. I passed by the cover of one of her books at the library and thought, "Jeez what a terrible title for a book." (I think it was called something about vodka). So the WTF interview was a revelation in that I never knew any human could be that repellant. I immediately had to do research on Handler and it all confirmed this impression.

I think it surprises people when sucky people are sucky on WTF because it seems like Maron can pull interesting emotions and conversations from even the worst people. I DID expect more from the Mencia interview, for instance - I wanted Maron to be more confrontational, for there to be real sparks.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on May 15, 2012, 03:11:27 AM
I think we easily forget that Marc is face to face with these people.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Austin From Chicago on May 16, 2012, 09:48:20 AM
I think we easily forget that Marc is face to face with these people.

Right. I acknowledge that my expectations were unrealistic.

I think it's pretty cool that when people we already conceive as being sucky people appear on WTF they do nothing but reinforce our impression of them as sucky people, however. I think what might come off as surprise among us is more like delight in being validated.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Greggulator on May 23, 2012, 02:24:52 PM
Don't read Grantland today (or probably ever). Their most self-important hack wrote an incredibly condescening takedown of WTF today. Mind you, he also wrote an article touting the importance of Storage Wars, where he was the first time he heard "Rehab," recaps AmIdol and brags about how awesome he is for living in Thailand for a few months. He also uses his middle name in his byline, the ultimate sign of self-importance.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on May 23, 2012, 02:27:44 PM
You just made me want to check out Grantland, which I'd never even heard of until just now.

I like getting mad about unimportant stuff, what can I say?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on May 23, 2012, 02:36:20 PM
Ha ha, that dude at Grantland did an unfunny version of this thing (http://www.puffchrissy.com/uncategorized/every-wtf-with-marc-maron/) mere days after the funnier version of it was published.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on May 23, 2012, 02:59:30 PM
You just made me want to check out Grantland, which I'd never even heard of until just now.

I like getting mad about unimportant stuff, what can I say?

Yeah, saying "don't check this out" is almost more enticing than "check this out". I, too, had to go read this.

If you don't want someone to do a thing, don't tell them anything about it!

I love WTF now (yeah get in line) but was pretty steamed in the James Mercer episode when Marc dissed Styx.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 23, 2012, 03:00:27 PM
Using your middle initial is cool, though.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on May 23, 2012, 03:33:31 PM
Ha ha, that dude at Grantland did an unfunny version of this thing ([url]http://www.puffchrissy.com/uncategorized/every-wtf-with-marc-maron/[/url]) mere days after the funnier version of it was published.


Yes, I saw that and was trying to place it.

I don't know if that qualifies as plagiarism-for-reals, but it counts as Mencia-ing, at least.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Greggulator on May 23, 2012, 04:06:23 PM
HAHAHAHA! What a scumbag. I seriously hope he this blows up in his face.

For disclouse sake, I do have a grudge against this clown. He linked to the Carmen Sandiego Video I'm in that's on YouTube and made snarky comments about the 12-year-old me in an AmIdol snark-fest. I rather enjoy people making fun of me for being on that show. I just don't want to have anything to do with the cottage industry of professional bullying.

F that guy so much.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Tom Scharpling on May 23, 2012, 06:01:24 PM
That was one of the dopiest pieces I've read in ages. Not to mention the straight-up lift from the other piece from last week. Unbelievable.

Tom.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Christina on May 24, 2012, 10:28:53 AM
Maron's interview with Killer Beaz just hit itunes. For many years I listened to streaming comedy radio stations when I used to be a book buyer - ugh, there were a ton of long boring stretches like when you had to do backlist orders, you'd have to look at 100s of titles a day zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. So we would all listen to comedy constantly & trade CDs and stuff, and also internet streaming stuff - on the streaming stations I heard all kinds of guys who I would've never checked out otherwise, and Killer Beaz was one of them. His goofy charm is really sort of adorable.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on May 24, 2012, 11:25:59 AM
Killer Beaz was one of them. His goofy charm is really sort of adorable.

Great conversation, listened to it first thing while at work.  I loved how MM was in Zelig-mode (which he's admitted to lapse in to) b/c he began to use the southern drawl. I would too, KB's accent is charming. Danny McBride from last week was great also. I think Maron wants to be a Good Ol' Boy.

And that act of plagarism from Grantland, what a...maroon.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 24, 2012, 11:42:10 AM
The Ron Shock episode has been re-released to the podcast feed to mark his passing, so if you didn't hear it the first time, it's worth checking out. One of my favorite WTFs.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on May 24, 2012, 12:43:57 PM
[I think Maron wants to be a Good Ol' Boy.



Everyone does, eventually.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: danner on May 24, 2012, 06:37:15 PM
Great conversation, listened to it first thing while at work.  I loved how MM was in Zelig-mode (which he's admitted to lapse in to) b/c he began to use the southern drawl. I would too, KB's accent is charming. Danny McBride from last week was great also. I think Maron wants to be a Good Ol' Boy.

Yeah, that was a fun one. As a fellow southerner, I really got a kick out of hearing Marc hit it off with a guy so seemingly outside of his wheelhouse. I'm not very familiar with Beaz's comedy, but he used to play around Birmingham all the time in the 90s.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 25, 2012, 11:07:33 AM
There were lots of good stories in the Danny McBride episode, it is a recent favorite.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: daveB from Oakland on May 25, 2012, 06:39:25 PM

Killer Beaz was one of them. His goofy charm is really sort of adorable.

Listening to it now ...

"Well soon, MY barbecue's gonna be the best, because I just bought me a smoker for my patio ... electronic digital smoker with the re-MOTE!!"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 25, 2012, 11:52:46 PM
I had no idea who Killer Beaz was before this episode, but what a great interview. If he plays a club near me, I will be there.

I also liked hearing Marc get all nerdy about Lynyrd Skynyrd.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on May 26, 2012, 01:32:28 AM
I had no idea who Killer Beaz was before this episode, but what a great interview. If he plays a club near me, I will be there.

I also liked hearing Marc get all nerdy about Lynyrd Skynyrd.

For some reason I like getting interviews with guys I never heard of like Killer Beaz (who does indeed sound like a funny and charming guy) I just figure if I've never heard of him it's probably because he comes from a world I know nothing about so he should have interesting things to say as opposed to the B level comedians I have heard of and maybe even enjoy, but don't really care about just because they come from a world I already heard explored. I'd love to have more guests on who are maybe off the beaten path.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 26, 2012, 09:17:04 AM
Grantland kinda sucks in general.  For a minute I got it mixed up with Joyland, which I like, but I'm relieved that it's not.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 26, 2012, 09:18:01 AM
Also:

"And when Maron began to ask Kaling about her demons, it was all I could do to not wrench the wheel and steer my car into oncoming traffic."

Don't do us any favors, buddy!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 26, 2012, 09:22:08 AM
Oh yeah -- while I can't take Eastbound and Down for more than 2 minutes at a time, I really liked Danny McBride a lot.  The story about walking home with your waiter's apron and crying really resonated with me.  (I think Andy Daly's brilliant, too -- am I missing something?)  I also found Killer Beaz utterly charming.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: wood and iron on May 26, 2012, 10:04:02 AM
The only good things to come out of Grantland are the Hollywood Perspectus and the Men in Blazers podcasts.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 26, 2012, 11:16:55 PM
Oh yeah -- while I can't take Eastbound and Down for more than 2 minutes at a time, I really liked Danny McBride a lot.  The story about walking home with your waiter's apron and crying really resonated with me.  (I think Andy Daly's brilliant, too -- am I missing something?) 

The UK Office is a big influence on E&D, so I guess it depends how you feel about it (and other stuff that aggressively encourage you to despise the protagonist). E&D is one of my favorite things in recent memory, but I can also understand anyone who says they can't watch it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 26, 2012, 11:36:06 PM
Oh yeah -- while I can't take Eastbound and Down for more than 2 minutes at a time, I really liked Danny McBride a lot.  The story about walking home with your waiter's apron and crying really resonated with me.  (I think Andy Daly's brilliant, too -- am I missing something?) 

The UK Office is a big influence on E&D, so I guess it depends how you feel about it (and other stuff that aggressively encourage you to despise the protagonist). E&D is one of my favorite things in recent memory, but I can also understand anyone who says they can't watch it.

The first episode of the latest season really put me off, since Kenny was so aggressively obnoxious with seemingly no consequences (as opposed to his many humiliations of the previous seasons). I ended up not going back to it for a month, but then I got back on board as Kenny went into the inevitable slide. I am a horrible person. Also I liked the funeral episode a lot. I am horrible.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 26, 2012, 11:46:22 PM

Killer Beaz was one of them. His goofy charm is really sort of adorable.

Listening to it now ...

"Well soon, MY barbecue's gonna be the best, because I just bought me a smoker for my patio ... electronic digital smoker with the re-MOTE!!"

The image of men in Sam's Club high-fiving and fist-bumping over a digital BBQ smoker delighted me.

I also got a huge laugh when Beaz said something along the lines of "Whenever I hear someone talking with the same accent as me, I always think he's going to be an idiot."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 27, 2012, 10:31:34 AM
Oh yeah -- while I can't take Eastbound and Down for more than 2 minutes at a time, I really liked Danny McBride a lot.  The story about walking home with your waiter's apron and crying really resonated with me.  (I think Andy Daly's brilliant, too -- am I missing something?) 

The UK Office is a big influence on E&D, so I guess it depends how you feel about it (and other stuff that aggressively encourage you to despise the protagonist). E&D is one of my favorite things in recent memory, but I can also understand anyone who says they can't watch it.

See, I love the UK office.  Maybe it's because Kenny Powers doesn't even have the subtlety of David Brent or Gareth Keenan?  OK, maybe he's about as subtle as Gareth.  Of course, I have a lot more history with Kenny Powers types than I do any English asshole, so maybe it's that. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on May 27, 2012, 03:40:14 PM

Killer Beaz was one of them. His goofy charm is really sort of adorable.

Listening to it now ...

"Well soon, MY barbecue's gonna be the best, because I just bought me a smoker for my patio ... electronic digital smoker with the re-MOTE!!"

The image of men in Sam's Club high-fiving and fist-bumping over a digital BBQ smoker delighted me.

I also got a huge laugh when Beaz said something along the lines of "Whenever I hear someone talking with the same accent as me, I always think he's going to be an idiot."

Hey, I'm right over here
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on May 27, 2012, 04:04:56 PM

Killer Beaz was one of them. His goofy charm is really sort of adorable.

Listening to it now ...

"Well soon, MY barbecue's gonna be the best, because I just bought me a smoker for my patio ... electronic digital smoker with the re-MOTE!!"

The image of men in Sam's Club high-fiving and fist-bumping over a digital BBQ smoker delighted me.

I also got a huge laugh when Beaz said something along the lines of "Whenever I hear someone talking with the same accent as me, I always think he's going to be an idiot."

Hey, I'm right over here

Please don't mistake my comment for some sort of snarky/ironic condescension. Both of these things gave me genuine joy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on May 28, 2012, 07:04:09 AM

Killer Beaz was one of them. His goofy charm is really sort of adorable.

Listening to it now ...

"Well soon, MY barbecue's gonna be the best, because I just bought me a smoker for my patio ... electronic digital smoker with the re-MOTE!!"

The image of men in Sam's Club high-fiving and fist-bumping over a digital BBQ smoker delighted me.

I also got a huge laugh when Beaz said something along the lines of "Whenever I hear someone talking with the same accent as me, I always think he's going to be an idiot."

Hey, I'm right over here

Please don't mistake my comment for some sort of snarky/ironic condescension. Both of these things gave me genuine joy.

I know, Bubba, I'm just riding you a little. You're part of the Klik with me and Jason!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: worm@work on May 31, 2012, 12:10:06 PM
Just listened to Marc's rather short conversation with Tony Clifton. Oh boy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Flood on June 01, 2012, 01:05:31 AM
Get it: http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-marc-and-tom-show/id531038918 (http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-marc-and-tom-show/id531038918)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 13, 2012, 11:59:49 AM
Get it: [url]http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-marc-and-tom-show/id531038918[/url] ([url]http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-marc-and-tom-show/id531038918[/url])


Man my Itunes sucks. Won't let me buy it. Is there any other way to get this?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Treeclimber on July 19, 2012, 04:01:23 PM
Fiona Apple is scared of Paul F.Tompkins...
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: moonshake on July 30, 2012, 03:02:33 PM
On the 300th episode, Andy Kindler reveals just how much he loves TBSOW*! As a huge fan of both TBSOW and Andy Kindler, I was overjoyed.

*spoiler: and even does impressions of Tom making fun of Jim Morrison and Tom Waits.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on July 31, 2012, 04:00:43 PM
Yeah, I notice Kindler Tweeting Best Show-related tweets during the show pretty often.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on July 31, 2012, 11:58:42 PM
Andy does not come on Am I Right?? without wanting to discuss Best Show for at least a few minutes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on August 02, 2012, 09:07:50 PM
The Bob Golub episode is really something else, like an Elmore Leonard novel come to life. Don't skip it just because you don't know who he is (if you've seen Goodfellas, you know who he is).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on August 04, 2012, 04:09:01 PM
The Bob Golub episode is really something else, like an Elmore Leonard novel come to life. Don't skip it just because you don't know who he is (if you've seen Goodfellas, you know who he is).

One of his best shows lately. And the kicker is the Magic Potato story was an afterthought Marc almost forgot to mention.  With someone like him the the cast of Goodfellas, it makes me thinks of all the real life characters that play the small parts in early Scorsese movies.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: John Junk on August 05, 2012, 04:51:06 PM
This is by now a bygone episode that probably no one cares about, but did anyone feel that Marc was being pretty hard on the parents of the woman (I don't know -- was she a standup or just a professional sexy person?) with the book about severe agoraphobia?  Like, yeah, maybe she had to "grow up with" her parents, but also, she didn't have to save her parents from starving themselves and peeing in bowls next to their bed.  Give mom and dad a break!  Thank you, and goodnight.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on August 05, 2012, 10:17:13 PM
Marc was clearly projecting his own parental issues onto professional sexy person Sara Benincasa in an effort to make a connection with her. To be fair, she seemed more than happy to go along with it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: CW3 on August 27, 2012, 11:45:34 AM
The Bob Golub episode is really something else, like an Elmore Leonard novel come to life. Don't skip it just because you don't know who he is (if you've seen Goodfellas, you know who he is).

I do find WTF a big hard going sometimes... but all well worth it when an episode like this comes along.
You don't come across stories like Bob Golub's everyday... just hearing this validates the whole subgenre of LA based comedy podcasting.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on October 25, 2012, 06:45:18 PM
I really enjoyed the Jimmie Walker chat.

Best WTF in recent memory.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on October 26, 2012, 10:32:39 AM
I really enjoyed the Jimmie Walker chat.

Best WTF in recent memory.

Yeah, I liked that one a lot.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on October 28, 2012, 12:51:38 PM
I really enjoyed the Jimmie Walker chat.

Best WTF in recent memory.

Yeah, I liked that one a lot.

I found a few of his stories to be slightly dubious, but I've always been one to appreciate a good story over the absolute truth. But you'd think the guy getting shot at the Apollo would have been noted somewhere.

Really made me want to read his book even though I have a feeling he already told the best stories on the show.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Purple Aki on December 10, 2012, 08:02:44 PM
How many episodes are there of the Marc and Tom Show? And how can I buy them all?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on December 10, 2012, 09:20:45 PM
How many episodes are there of the Marc and Tom Show? And how can I buy them all?

At the moment, I believe there are two. One was released as part of the WTF podcast feed and one was sold as a standalone through the Itunes store. I don't know if the first one can be purchased individually, so it may be a case of having to buy the subscription service, which I think you can get for a buck or two for a month.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Lookit on December 17, 2012, 02:07:31 PM
I thought the Dylan Moran episode was great: the guy seems to know his mind, and it made me appreciate him even more than his work had.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on December 17, 2012, 02:19:29 PM
I thought the Dylan Moran episode was great: the guy seems to know his mind, and it made me appreciate him even more than his work had.

I just listened to it. Great stuff, interesting guy.  Loved Black Books.  Criminally mis-used in the overrated Shaun of the Dead (as was Peter Serafinowicz)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Greggulator on December 29, 2012, 12:32:07 PM
Jonathan Katz and his writing partner were wonderful! Dr. Katz was such an awesome show and one of my favorites when it was on. The thing I got the most out of the interview was the importance of developing a unique comedy voice and they didn't even directly talk about that.

The one with Dylan Moran was terrific. I never heard of that guy before and desperately need to dig into his stuff. He's a really smart person who understands what makes him smart. I'm also a sucker for anytime someone from outside America talks about what he sees in America. I'm doubly a sucker for when it's an Irish person since my grandparents came off a boat and I was surrounded by Americans who always talked about what they saw in Ireland.

The Jay Mohr one was one of the great ones where Marc Maron obviously doesn't like the guy and lets him dig his own grave. Jay Mohr is such a tool on every single level. How that guy has made a huge living doing his version of "comedy" is rather awful.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on December 29, 2012, 02:19:44 PM

The one with Dylan Moran was terrific. I never heard of that guy before and desperately need to dig into his stuff.


Black Books is really enjoyable in that early 2000s BBC comedy sort of way.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on December 30, 2012, 01:52:43 PM


The Jay Mohr one was one of the great ones where Marc Maron obviously doesn't like the guy and lets him dig his own grave. Jay Mohr is such a tool on every single level. How that guy has made a huge living doing his version of "comedy" is rather awful.

I was about to post that I actually thought Jay Mohr came across as a decent enough guy who I have nothing in common with, but then I remembered his story about stealing the idea for an SNL sketch from his friend. And no matter what the circumstances that's pretty low.

Anyone listen to the Blues Traveler episode? While I don't mind B-level comedians being interviewed I really have no interest in hearing from the likes of John Popper. Nothing against the guy, really, he's just not my idea of what a WTF? guest should be. Of course this comes from someone who was thrilled to see pro wrestler Colt Cabana was a guest on the show so take that for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on December 30, 2012, 03:44:36 PM

The one with Dylan Moran was terrific. I never heard of that guy before and desperately need to dig into his stuff.


Black Books is really enjoyable in that early 2000s BBC comedy sort of way.

Graham Linehan is a machine, man! (Which, when I've heard it from Irish individuals, is quite the complement).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 30, 2012, 06:54:25 PM


The Jay Mohr one was one of the great ones where Marc Maron obviously doesn't like the guy and lets him dig his own grave. Jay Mohr is such a tool on every single level. How that guy has made a huge living doing his version of "comedy" is rather awful.

I was about to post that I actually thought Jay Mohr came across as a decent enough guy who I have nothing in common with, but then I remembered his story about stealing the idea for an SNL sketch from his friend. And no matter what the circumstances that's pretty low.

Anyone listen to the Blues Traveler episode? While I don't mind B-level comedians being interviewed I really have no interest in hearing from the likes of John Popper. Nothing against the guy, really, he's just not my idea of what a WTF? guest should be. Of course this comes from someone who was thrilled to see pro wrestler Colt Cabana was a guest on the show so take that for what it's worth.

Over on Twitter I said that having Blues Traveler on was proof that WTF had jumped the harp.

I just pray he doesn't have that guy from Train on next.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on December 30, 2012, 07:04:33 PM
I just pray he doesn't have that guy from Train on next.


If Gene Simmons had been in Train, it would have been "Meat Virginia."
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on December 31, 2012, 08:19:44 PM
Jonathan Katz and his writing partner were wonderful! Dr. Katz was such an awesome show and one of my favorites when it was on. The thing I got the most out of the interview was the importance of developing a unique comedy voice and they didn't even directly talk about that.



I liked the Katz & Snyder interrview because Katz mentioned ImprovBoston which is where I'm taking improv classes. A minor thrill, but a thrill nonetheless.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on January 16, 2013, 11:29:22 PM
Just listened to the Michael Keaton. Just as much fun as everyone said.

Except, one thing stuck with me about his interactions with Larry David and he spoke so highly of the way Larry would tell the audience they were stupid for not getting his jokes, saying that's how it made Larry different.

Was this actually ever charming or was it just that Larry was that good? I see this happen an awful lot, and it's THE WORST.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on February 04, 2013, 09:50:06 AM
The one with John Hodgeman was great, 3rd time to try to get his voice on WTF's the charm.  All that talk of my dear Somerville, MA and Davis Square filled me with joy.  Makes me wonder, since two previous appearances were lost and this one had so much in it...how deep is John Hodgeman's well? I miss pre-gentrification Boston.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Keith Whitener on February 04, 2013, 12:24:26 PM
Mel Brooks and Carl Reiner! I'm now waiting for Trent Reznor and Iggy Pop.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 06, 2013, 10:38:22 AM
The Mel Brooks interview was perhaps my favorite podcast episode ever.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on February 06, 2013, 10:40:11 AM
The Mel Brooks interview was perhaps my favorite podcast episode ever.

Not done yet, but I'd have to agree it's up there for me too.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Crusherkc on February 06, 2013, 12:03:54 PM
Mel Brooks and Carl Reiner! I'm now waiting for Trent Reznor and Iggy Pop.

Loved the episode: Mel Brooks is such a down-to-earth titan it makes you wanna cry.  Mel wants to connect with people in a human way not just push his product or give a one-off interview and be done with it- I think Marc should have him on as a regular or start another side podcast ala the "Marc and Tom Show" when he and Mel just tell stories. 

Also check out "A Bit of a Chat with Ken Plume" episode with Mel.  Ken Plume is an FOT has has a pretty good conversation podcast himself.

Psyched about Carl Reiner.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 06, 2013, 01:37:37 PM
The Mel Brooks interview was perhaps my favorite podcast episode ever.

I wouldn't want to have to choose between the Mel Brooks and Michael Keaton WTFs.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on February 06, 2013, 01:51:00 PM
The Mel Brooks interview was perhaps my favorite podcast episode ever.

Not done yet, but I'd have to agree it's up there for me too.

"Why do you do so many Hitler jokes?"

"Because every time I did Hitler, people laughed."

GREAT ANSWER!

I enjoyed this one a lot too, so crazy how much history he lived through (and created). And I didn't know he was married to Anne Bancroft!

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on February 08, 2013, 06:42:36 PM
Mel Brooks and Carl Reiner! I'm now waiting for Trent Reznor and Iggy Pop.

Carl wasn't quite as good as Mel's, but still pretty great. And the story Marc was telling at the end of the Mel Brooks episode has a pretty good payoff. If I get to be that age and all I forget are some names and dates of things that happened 50 years ago I will be happy.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: rattkane on February 10, 2013, 09:12:40 PM
In the Mel Brooks episode I learned that Mel grew up on my old block. It was a brief moment of excitement until I remembered it doesn't mean I have a relationship with Mel Brooks.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ben on March 04, 2013, 08:38:18 PM
John Danielle was on the latest WTF and it was unsurprisingly fantastic.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: zzesp on May 22, 2013, 12:15:34 AM
marc marons great and of course tom,best show,scharpling and wurster are tops ,,,,that said marc maron does not or has never been a best show listener, certainly not live or podcast,,,,,,,,,,the comedian thats a guest that listens most is andy kindler..........you can tell from when tom was on wtf,,,,,,when marc calls in its for marc .........anyway theyre all funny,,,,,,,,but it bugs me....ill get over it
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Epic Soundtracks on May 22, 2013, 08:25:03 PM
marc marons great and of course tom,best show,scharpling and wurster are tops ,,,,that said marc maron does not or has never been a best show listener, certainly not live or podcast,,,,,,,,,,the comedian thats a guest that listens most is andy kindler..........you can tell from when tom was on wtf,,,,,,when marc calls in its for marc .........anyway theyre all funny,,,,,,,,but it bugs me....ill get over it


Wait, how do you know MM isn't a listener? And why does it matter, exactly? I don't think Maron needs to call in to the Best Show to publicize himself...he's sort of at a different level of prominence. Lastly, I get the sense that doing those marc and tom shows mean that they respect and like each other.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on May 22, 2013, 10:06:05 PM
marc marons great and of course tom,best show,scharpling and wurster are tops ,,,,that said marc maron does not or has never been a best show listener, certainly not live or podcast,,,,,,,,,,the comedian thats a guest that listens most is andy kindler..........you can tell from when tom was on wtf,,,,,,when marc calls in its for marc .........anyway theyre all funny,,,,,,,,but it bugs me....ill get over it

He and Tom appear to be friends and I enjoy their conversation. So long as Marc doesn't lie about being a hardcore fan who never misses an episode I don't see what the problem is. I'll take a good guest over a big fan any day.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: methanolcereal on June 04, 2013, 01:14:18 AM
Can someone help me out?

I downloaded one of the Marc and Tom shows a while back, but lost access to my iTunes account. I have recently convinced Apple that I am me and they should let me change my password.

The problem is, I have no idea which one I downloaded because most of my album art is not loading properly.

The one I have is 1 hour and 19 minutes and it came out last year at some point. Tom talks about finally getting over sending orders back at Starbucks. Maron talked about trying to make eggs perfectly when working at  Jewish deli in Boston. They talk about Zeppelin fans vs. Clash fans.

Which episode do I have?

Which am I missing?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Josh on June 05, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Marc & Tom Show #1 is 58:40 long
Marc & Tom Show #2 is 1:19:16 long
Marc & Tom Show #3 is 1:21:27 long



You should be able to log into your iTunes account, click on "Purchased" and see/download anything you've bought in the past.
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Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: methanolcereal on June 10, 2013, 09:23:29 PM
Marc & Tom Show #1 is 58:40 long
Marc & Tom Show #2 is 1:19:16 long
Marc & Tom Show #3 is 1:21:27 long



You should be able to log into your iTunes account, click on "Purchased" and see/download anything you've bought in the past.
*insert picture here*

Cool, thanks for the update. I guess I have the second episode?
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Josh on June 11, 2013, 09:25:16 AM
Cool, thanks for the update. I guess I have the second episode?

Looks like it!

You're welcome; god bless you and all your endeavors.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: amiright?? on June 11, 2013, 05:58:04 PM
Hey where can I get episode one of Marc and Tom? I think I lost it and it's not in itunes Canada.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Epic Soundtracks on June 11, 2013, 08:39:30 PM
I wish Maron's show was better. So far, I'm underwhelmed....
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Drew D on October 15, 2013, 09:15:06 AM
anyone else watch Thinky Pain?   ;)   
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on October 15, 2013, 05:07:55 PM
anyone else watch Thinky Pain?   ;)

I made it about 15 minutes before I had to turn it off. I enjoyed the Tom parts though! Waiting for the Tom special.

I was transfixed by the Reggie Watts special. I could not turn it off!

-AG
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on October 15, 2013, 05:11:16 PM
anyone else watch Thinky Pain?   ;)

I made it about 15 minutes before I had to turn it off. I enjoyed the Tom parts though! Waiting for the Tom special.

I was transfixed by the Reggie Watts special. I could not turn it off!

-AG

I love Marc Maron though, just not his comedy I guess? I was in Eagle Rock last weekend and really hoped I'd bump into him so I could say "hi, you are great".

I did run into Marc in Kuaui of all places. I was kayaking downstream with my family while he was kayaking upstream with his ladyfriend. I didn't say anything except "I think that was Marc Maron!"

GREAT STORY!

-ag



Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Joe Rogaine on October 17, 2013, 08:14:19 AM
anyone else watch Thinky Pain?   ;)

I made it about 15 minutes before I had to turn it off. I enjoyed the Tom parts though! Waiting for the Tom special.

I was transfixed by the Reggie Watts special. I could not turn it off!

-AG

I love Marc Maron though, just not his comedy I guess? I was in Eagle Rock last weekend and really hoped I'd bump into him so I could say "hi, you are great".

I did run into Marc in Kuaui of all places. I was kayaking downstream with my family while he was kayaking upstream with his ladyfriend. I didn't say anything except "I think that was Marc Maron!"

GREAT STORY!

-ag


I thought it was great, better than the Louie CK one on HBO earlier this year.

You could tell Tom was really uncomfortable during the conversation at the end of the film.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: akaJudge on October 17, 2013, 11:22:02 AM
i thought Thinky Pain was fantastic. Seems to me that unless Tom is behind a WFMU mic doing The Best Show he always seems uncomfortable :)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: YuriDedman on October 18, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
I really liked Thinky Pain.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: ColbyCheese on October 18, 2013, 04:13:06 PM
I really liked Thinky Pain.

Agreed! Really funny. Plus, I was at that show!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: CactusClothesline on November 06, 2013, 03:15:31 PM
Never been a huge Maron fan but I really enjoyed Thinky Pain. Made me want to give WTF another shot (rather than just pick and choose episodes now and then).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on November 06, 2013, 04:57:50 PM
The Johnny Knoxville episode was great.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Eric Fishlegs on November 06, 2013, 06:04:10 PM
The Johnny Knoxville episode was great.

I was literally just listening to that one. I liked the stories of his dad's tire shop which was almost a proto-Jackass.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: snogrog on November 06, 2013, 08:27:57 PM
Other than Knoxville's obnoxious laugh, I enjoyed that episode so much more than I expected. He is a pretty great story teller (I think my favorite was the genealogy story).
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on November 07, 2013, 11:57:02 AM
Other than Knoxville's obnoxious laugh, I enjoyed that episode so much more than I expected. He is a pretty great story teller (I think my favorite was the genealogy story).

Yes a very engaging episode. How does one become Johnny Knoxville? I would have liked to hear the question "do you like getting hurt?" but beggars cannot be choosers!

The hot lips episode is great too.

Maron: "So, you were in his bed but you never slept with Marlon Brando?"

Hot Lips: "No I didn't. I wanted to be special. That's not a mistake I'll make in my next life!"

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on November 08, 2013, 10:08:21 AM
How does one become Johnny Knoxville?

It sounded to me like the turning point was the day he decided to shoot himself in the chest point blank because he needed to make a living for his new baby!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: InspectorHound on January 16, 2014, 03:57:08 PM
The Patrick Stickles interview is great.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on January 16, 2014, 05:23:34 PM
The Phil Stutz and Artie Lange episodes are great, too.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on January 16, 2014, 05:37:20 PM
The Yakov Smirnoff interview was truly amazing. MARON is on a tear!

I gave the Maron TV show another chance and binge watched the whole season last weekend - there's definitely some ups and downs, my favorite is his kid sidekick and of course Danny Trejo (who rarely speaks on screen, this must be his biggest speaking role of 3,245 roles?)

Still adjusting to life w/out Tom, it's not so great!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Joe Rogaine on January 17, 2014, 04:17:23 AM
The Yakov Smirnoff interview was truly amazing. MARON is on a tear!

I gave the Maron TV show another chance and binge watched the whole season last weekend - there's definitely some ups and downs, my favorite is his kid sidekick and of course Danny Trejo (who rarely speaks on screen, this must be his biggest speaking role of 3,245 roles?)

Still adjusting to life w/out Tom, it's not so great!

His sidekick is the best part of the show.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 21, 2014, 10:03:42 AM
The Yakov Smirnoff interview was truly amazing. MARON is on a tear!

I gave the Maron TV show another chance and binge watched the whole season last weekend - there's definitely some ups and downs, my favorite is his kid sidekick and of course Danny Trejo (who rarely speaks on screen, this must be his biggest speaking role of 3,245 roles?)

Still adjusting to life w/out Tom, it's not so great!

Yes, I loved this exchange from the Trejo episode:

Man, for a comedian, you have no sense of humor. Why don't you tell a joke?

     I don't really do jokes.

What do you do?

     Observational stuff. I try to connect with the audience.

Sounds hilarious, homes.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on January 21, 2014, 05:22:20 PM
Oh my God, the Ed Begley Jr episode had me in tears....so many great '70s hollywood stories! Warren Oates, Harry Nillson, and.... Charles Manson!

GO MARON, GO!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: InspectorHound on January 21, 2014, 06:19:42 PM
Oh my God, the Ed Begley Jr episode had me in tears....so many great '70s hollywood stories! Warren Oates, Harry Nillson, and.... Charles Manson!

GO MARON, GO!
That episode was emblematic of Maron's worst guests: overly nostalgic, smarmy, and regret-free.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 29, 2014, 10:17:21 AM
Oh my God, the Ed Begley Jr episode had me in tears....so many great '70s hollywood stories! Warren Oates, Harry Nillson, and.... Charles Manson!

GO MARON, GO!
That episode was emblematic of Maron's worst guests: overly nostalgic, smarmy, and regret-free.

30 years from now, you will be exactly like that. Punk.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on January 29, 2014, 07:00:45 PM
Oh my God, the Ed Begley Jr episode had me in tears....so many great '70s hollywood stories! Warren Oates, Harry Nillson, and.... Charles Manson!

GO MARON, GO!
That episode was emblematic of Maron's worst guests: overly nostalgic, smarmy, and regret-free.

30 years from now, you will be exactly like that. Punk.

Yeah, I loved that episode.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: John Junk on February 12, 2014, 05:57:27 PM
Oh my God, the Ed Begley Jr episode had me in tears....so many great '70s hollywood stories! Warren Oates, Harry Nillson, and.... Charles Manson!

GO MARON, GO!
That episode was emblematic of Maron's worst guests: overly nostalgic, smarmy, and regret-free.

30 years from now, you will be exactly like that. Punk.

Yeah, I loved that episode.

If you're a regret-free celebrity, I don't wanna know ya! 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Carver on February 13, 2014, 09:57:29 PM
Really happy about a tweet Tom just sent congratulating Marc Maron for not jumping off a cliff after the Father John Misty interview. Man oh man is Misty a pretentious windbag. 
Maron starts out the interview by trying to complement Misty on his album and names some influences from previous decades he hears in the music.  Misty scoffs and goes into a rant about "well if you take into account the entire history of time then it doesn't make sense to view music in terms of decades and influences". 
A convenient attitude for a man whose every single musical product is a BLATANT RIPOFF OF OLDER MUSIC STYLES. 
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: buffcoat on February 13, 2014, 10:52:46 PM
Carver - this is one of the good things about the Internet. Namely, seeing white-hot rage directed at someone I've never heard of.

Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: InspectorHound on February 13, 2014, 10:55:43 PM
Really happy about a tweet Tom just sent congratulating Marc Maron for not jumping off a cliff after the Father John Misty interview. Man oh man is Misty a pretentious windbag. 
Maron starts out the interview by trying to complement Misty on his album and names some influences from previous decades he hears in the music.  Misty scoffs and goes into a rant about "well if you take into account the entire history of time then it doesn't make sense to view music in terms of decades and influences". 
A convenient attitude for a man whose every single musical product is a BLATANT RIPOFF OF OLDER MUSIC STYLES.
The entire existence of his solo career seems predicated on him not having enough pants fun when he was a drummer.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Spalding on February 14, 2014, 11:24:15 AM
Misty scoffs and goes into a rant . .

Somehow I blew past that. I mainly recall him having a lot of (justifiable) anger about his strict religious upbringing, although he seemed unwilling to "get into it." For all the hub-bub about this guy, I was underwhelmed by the music. Solid but nothing out of the ordinary. Seems like his story is what's selling the music.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Bryan on February 17, 2014, 10:25:45 AM
I like his music, but found the interview pretty rough going. He is another data point supporting my theory that WTF guests who are younger than me are a snooze.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Carver on February 17, 2014, 02:51:07 PM
I've listened to my share of Fleet Foxes and FJ Misty, and thought more positive than negative about it. But the first quality that always struck me was how strongly they were repurposing older styles of music.  And I mean, everything does that to a certain extent, but Misty's attitude was like if Joey Ramone would've claimed "Beach Boys? Doesn't ring a bell, and frankly I'm insulted at the implication!"
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 21, 2014, 07:41:52 PM
I thought the Ron White episode was great, but then again I'd imagine I'm a bigger fan than most folks who post here.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: mostlymeat on February 21, 2014, 08:08:21 PM
I thought the Ron White episode was great, but then again I'd imagine I'm a bigger fan than most folks who post here.

I was super pumped that he is pals with Brian "For those about to Rock" Johnson. I don't know why, I just thought that was awesome that they are pals and eat food together and stuff.

WILD TIMES USA!
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: masterofsparks on February 21, 2014, 08:11:43 PM
I thought the Ron White episode was great, but then again I'd imagine I'm a bigger fan than most folks who post here.

I was super pumped that he is pals with Brian "For those about to Rock" Johnson. I don't know why, I just thought that was awesome that they are pals and eat food together and stuff.

WILD TIMES USA!

Having been to Sarasota fairly recently, it makes total sense that those two hang out there.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Kal_El on March 03, 2014, 08:11:02 PM
Was just listening to the Marc and Tom show earlier today. Absolutely great. I really wish these guys would work more in the future. I don't know about the logistics but I would love it if they hosted a weekly radio show like they joked about
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: casualobserver on May 16, 2014, 12:04:05 AM
I just caught a New Hope for the Ape-Eared cameo in the second episode of this season's Maron
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: nrt4 on May 25, 2014, 03:26:36 AM
I just caught a New Hope for the Ape-Eared cameo in the second episode of this season's Maron

The Ray episode, yeah? I couldn't find it.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: casualobserver on May 26, 2014, 09:20:13 PM
yeah, sorry, it is on a beam in Marc's garage, visible after their interview wraps up (if memory still serves)

the cover looks like a 12" which is appropriate within a fictional environment
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: casualobserver on June 13, 2014, 09:47:05 AM
stolen from twitter: someone snapped a photo

(http://i.imgur.com/QYa4vax.jpg)
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Andrew F on June 13, 2014, 05:27:49 PM
stolen from twitter: someone snapped a photo

([url]http://i.imgur.com/QYa4vax.jpg[/url])


Awesome.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: Carver on February 21, 2015, 09:21:26 AM
Pretty great interview with Harry Shearer this week.  Maron finally finds someone to break through the Cult of Lorne that all his other SNL guests were a part of.  Although it's kind've just Shearer crankiness, he does have some insight into why SNL usually stays at a level of messy mediocrity.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: norfolk on September 08, 2016, 07:20:32 PM
Today Marc announced that they had recorded another episode of the "Marc and Tom Show" and expect to release it soon.
Title: Re: Marc Maron
Post by: joe on October 24, 2016, 01:42:04 PM
In today's episode with Sarah Jessica Parker she and Marc spend a few minutes talking about how great Tom is.