Author Topic: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread  (Read 5003 times)

yesno

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Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« on: August 25, 2008, 09:04:58 PM »
I think that this could be the consolidated location for making fun of of Shovel.com, to save Stupornaut some time.

I don't know of any music publication or critic that isn't worthy of bashing.  If you want to get your rage on, go check out Robert Christgau's take on "All Things Must Pass."  (I think the hip music critics were already writing the story of what music is and isn't cool from the 1970s, in the 1970s, and weren't going to let the facts get in the way.)

That said, the Shovel empire is hated, like America, for just being too freaking awesome.  No one can handle it.  It is weird, though, how centralized how much of the internet ends up, despite its vaunted democratizing properties.  Pitchf-- I mean shovel is the Drudgereport of indie music reviews.  Still, since I'm not as cool as Rodney from Book Barn, I sometimes rely on it to find out about what the kinds have been listening to.  Even when I totally hate the bands it hypes, which is at least 1/2 the time, I prefer mine to be an informed hatred.

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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2008, 01:42:25 AM »
I just listened to All Things Must Pass start to finish for the first time.  The music sounds like what I imagine it would have sounded like had Paul McCartney fronted The Band.
Breakfast- I'm havin' a time
Wheelies- I'm havin' a time
Headlocks- I'm havin' a time
Drunk Tank- not so much a time
George St.- I'm havin' a time
Brenda- I'm havin' a time
Bingo- I'm havin' a time
House Arrest- I'm still havin' a time

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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2008, 03:30:01 AM »
I just listened to All Things Must Pass start to finish for the first time.  The music sounds like what I imagine it would have sounded like had Paul McCartney fronted The Band.

Now that's funny.

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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2008, 12:50:01 PM »
Someone on punknews.org made a comment that I agree with, at least as it pertains to my subjective taste in music- their positive reviews are usually pretty accurate, but their negative reviews are often way off base.

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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2008, 01:04:02 PM »
You've heard this before, but...

Insult to injury: in their reportage of "The World is in the Turlet" the reviewer singled out my contribution as lame, made a reference to The Decemberists (my least fave band ever) and to top it off the dude who reviewed it has THE SAME LAST NAME AS ME.  Traitor!!

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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2008, 08:02:34 AM »
You've heard this before, but...

Insult to injury: in their reportage of "The World is in the Turlet" the reviewer singled out my contribution as lame, made a reference to The Decemberists (my least fave band ever) and to top it off the dude who reviewed it has THE SAME LAST NAME AS ME.  Traitor!!

I say all FOT should rise up and protest this guy. Down with Jim Junk 2.0 at shovel.com!
I'll probably go into the wee hours.

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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2008, 07:35:08 AM »
they reviewed two of my favourite albums of the year today!

Dan le Sac got 0.2 and Laura Marling 6.8

Apparently, I like rubbish music.

EDIT: Now I've had time to cool off... I guess that such a negative review is good for DLS - considering they're largely unknown in the U.S. they'll probably get a lot more attention with this, than if they had got a 6.4 or something. I am just protective of things I like.
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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2008, 08:58:45 AM »
I haven't heard the DLS but a review that low usually means that the reviewer disagrees with the very idea of the album instead of just not liking it. 

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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2008, 09:13:54 AM »
Dan le Sac vs Scroobius Pip "The Beat that my Heart Skipped"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESvYRR1Fyug
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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2008, 11:02:09 AM »
I listened to their two singles and then read the review. They definitely disagree with the idea of the group. I agree with the writer in that I also can't be bothered with meta-music (though I don't know how much of the group is meta. 1/2 of the songs I've heard). The guy takes it a bit far with 0.2 though.

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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2008, 11:42:20 AM »
The guy takes it a bit far with 0.2 though.

I've listened to the whole album. "Too far" in this case means it's more like a 1.1.

I also think that Ian (like myself) is completely unable to get past the obnoxiousness of a self-righteous British guy going "let's hear some proper creative hip-hop, not this pop rubbish". We get that enough from every American indie/aging East Coast legend rapper ever, and most of them don't rap like a character from Nathan Barley.
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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2008, 11:45:46 AM »
Also:

Laura Marling 6.8

In traditional terms this is like 3 1/2 stars out of five. It could be worse; you could really love the new Verve album.
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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2008, 12:06:25 PM »
What's the deal with the Black Kids "review?"  That album totally blows, but I don't know what the little reference is to.

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/51246-black-kids-partie-traumatic

(ps:  Don't make us start dredging up such things as Save Ferris getting a 9.5 but Pet Sounds a 7.5 (I know, ancient history) and seeing if you'll defend them!)

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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2008, 12:09:22 PM »
We get that enough from every American indie/aging East Coast legend rapper ever, and most of them don't rap like a character from Nathan Barley.

Ha! So right.

(Sorry, Samir.)

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Re: Consolidated Shovel.com bashing thread
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2008, 12:32:30 PM »
Dan le Sac is garbage.