Author Topic: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation  (Read 135997 times)

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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #225 on: October 01, 2009, 12:08:28 AM »
Still working on the Paul one - or at least thinking about it.


Meanwhile, I've become a little creepily focused on the bonus fadeout section of Destroyer (in the MP3 file of "Do You Love Me").

It's a weird fadein/out of Paul's "I tell you, it looks like we gonna have ourselves, a rock and roll party!" from Alive!, with a lot of distortion.  This is interlaced with the choir from "Great Expectations."  It lasts for a minute and is totally nutso, but just the type of thing Bob Ezrin might have come up with at the last minute, using no new material, to finish his faux-Gothic masterpiece.

Add.: DISCOVERY!

The clip on Alive!, from the end of Deuce, eliminates the "I tell you" part of the quote - in fact, Paul seems to repeat himself in the Destroyer outtake, saying, "I tell you looks like, looks like we gonna have ourselves a rock and roll party.  A dark hint of the overdubbing and editing?

I wonder if Gene would give me access to the original tapes so I could produce a stripped down buffcoat version of Alive! to match Mr. Simmon's Phil Spector version?  Probably not.
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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #226 on: October 01, 2009, 01:59:11 PM »
I definitely feel like this is the year KISS gets into the Hall of Fame. Who do you think they get to do their induction speech?

I spent way too much time trying to figure this out with some friends last week and we couldn't come up with anyone that Gene or Paul would want who would actually agree to it and be sufficiently famous enough that the Hall of Fame people would OK (that is to say, not Sebastian Bach). I think they get assigned Designated Hall of Fame Inductor Kid Rock and tell Gene to deal with it.

And if they do go in this year, do you think Ace and Peter let themselves build up some hope that they might get to perform instead of watching from the crowd while Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer do it? Or are they realistic enough that they know they won't be allowed on stage? Even then, there's a chance Gene and Paul don't let them show up at all and they have to watch through a window in the kitchen while perched on top of a dumpster.

This has all of the potential intrigue of the Van Halen induction a few years ago, mixed with the possibility that Gene will deliver some weird, angry Hall of Fame speech like Mike Love or Michael Jordan.
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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #227 on: October 01, 2009, 02:17:26 PM »
Something along the lines of his usual, "Don't download.  You're ripping me off"?

Ace will not be there - we'll never know whether he wasn't invited or he just forgot and spent the evening like he does most Thursday nights, signing picks at Guitar Town.

Peter will show up uninvited in full makeup and costume, only to be gently escorted into the room OFF the green room by a minor celebrity (for some reason Ileana Douglas leaps to mind?) as it's explained that they don't need "two Peters" for the induction. 

Peter replies, "But I AM Peter." 

Ileana says, "I know, sweetheart, I know."


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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #228 on: October 01, 2009, 11:28:50 PM »
That Peter/Ileana Douglas dialogue was priceless.  I'm going to assume no one has read it yet.


A couple of Paul Stanley related items:

http://lftec.blogspot.com/2009/02/dear-paul-stanley.html

Not very nice.



http://www.paulstanley.com/index.php?module=letters

Paul has several hundred random fan letters on his weird website.
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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #229 on: October 01, 2009, 11:37:38 PM »
To answer your question, Wes, it is my understanding that, per Gene Simmons' request, Terry Gross will be delivering the induction speech for KISS.
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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #230 on: October 02, 2009, 10:41:53 AM »
I bought two tickets for Alive 35 the other day. Is anyone else going? I thought it was important, somehow.

Also stumbled on some weird Kiss videos:

Ace doing a bar band novelty song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeZlXJtLhMQ

A really young fan spazzing out in '79:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfygYBgVZfw

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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #231 on: October 02, 2009, 11:35:02 AM »
Even then, there's a chance Gene and Paul don't let them show up at all and they have to watch through a window in the kitchen while perched on top of a dumpster.

Maybe on the night of the ceremony they'll send the 1940s car from the cover of <i>Unmasked</i> for Ace and Peter that they rode in to the movies together all those years ago. But the doors will lock, the car will keep driving and they'll be forced to watch a DVD of "Simmons Family Jewels".

I think Gene's speech will be an excellent mix of score settling and promo for the newest flavor of KISSpacino at the KISS coffee shop in Myrtle Beach.

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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #232 on: October 02, 2009, 12:41:55 PM »
Did you know that Ace has a Twitter account? His latest: "So now that Anomaly has sat in your stereos for a bit... what's your favorite track?" This kind of confidence is why I'm sure that Ace Frehley will receive a sterling critical evaluation when it comes up in this thread.

And from a few weeks ago: "Gotta love the Catman! Thanks Peter for calling Rockline last night."

There's also an account for Peter that has a really sad, tired-looking picture of the Catman as its icon, but it seems to be someone taking care of it by proxy for Peter, as the bio says "Hoping to have the real Catman here soon!" This does nothing to deter my belief that Peter Criss is the member of KISS most likely to be functionally illiterate. Gotta love the Catman!
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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #233 on: October 02, 2009, 02:06:46 PM »
Did you know that Ace has a Twitter account? His latest: "So now that Anomaly has sat in your stereos for a bit... what's your favorite track?" This kind of confidence is why I'm sure that Ace Frehley will receive a sterling critical evaluation when it comes up in this thread.

And from a few weeks ago: "Gotta love the Catman! Thanks Peter for calling Rockline last night."

There's also an account for Peter that has a really sad, tired-looking picture of the Catman as its icon, but it seems to be someone taking care of it by proxy for Peter, as the bio says "Hoping to have the real Catman here soon!" This does nothing to deter my belief that Peter Criss is the member of KISS most likely to be functionally illiterate. Gotta love the Catman!


"Most likely" doesn't mean there only has to be one, right?
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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #234 on: October 03, 2009, 04:40:25 PM »
From Ace's latest Tweet:  http://twitpic.com/k43ss

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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #235 on: October 05, 2009, 07:54:58 AM »
New KISS album, 'Sonic Boom', at Wal-Mart tomorrow.  Who's getting it?  Be honest.  

I have a feeling I'll end up getting it but I'm more curious about these "KISS Korners" that Wal-Mart is supposed to have.  http://walmartstores.com/FactsNews/NewsRoom/9370.aspx

(edit) ALSO...


Also stumbled on some weird Kiss videos:

Ace doing a bar band novelty song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeZlXJtLhMQ

This is the most delightfully bizarre video I've seen in awhile.  Tom should do a breakdown of the song and video on the show.
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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #236 on: October 05, 2009, 11:30:06 AM »
"KISS catalog CDs such as Dress to Kill, Destroyer, Love Gun and Very Best of KISS -- $5 - $9"



Which ones do you think are $5?
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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #237 on: October 05, 2009, 10:17:45 PM »
I'm gonna guess that they're all mostly $9 and the only $5 one is the generic 20th Century hits thing they have for every other band that has, like, 10 songs on it. 

I saw they also had $5 t-shirts.  I'm curious what a $5 KISS t-shirt looks like.  Probably not unlike the $5 AC/DC t-shirts.

I'll scope it out tomorrow, see what's what and give a full report.  I have to go to Wal-Mart anyway.  I think I need socks. 
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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #238 on: October 05, 2009, 10:29:22 PM »
Plus it's Dressed to Kill.  I'm sure Gene wrote the Wal-Mart press release - can't he even get his own album titles right?
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Re: KISS: An Album-by-Album Critical Reevaluation
« Reply #239 on: October 06, 2009, 12:24:55 PM »
I got there this morning and the KISS Korner was still being hastily set up by one lone guy.  Basically the KISS sign was up and 'Sonic Boom' was out.  I pictured managers on duty yelling at this poor guy to get the Mr. Potato Head portion of the display right.  'Hotter then Hell' and the 'Alive' albums were mysteriously absent from the albums they were featuring.  The pricing was random too.  Like 'KISS' and 'Rock and Roll Over' were $5 but 'Love Gun' was $7.  And the hits package was $9.  Go figure.

Also, as an aside, I think Ace's new album is way better then KISS' new album.  But that's just me.
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